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  • King_B_Mack
    All Star
    • Jan 2009
    • 24450

    #2341
    Re: 2015 Offseason Thread

    Originally posted by CMH
    Mentioning that guy was obviously a joke that seemed to have struck a chord with a couple guys. It's a joke. You know, the type of thing you guys even use when describing other players in the league to him.

    But I'm not comparing the two. You compared the two with your quote. I simply said, again, I find it more off putting to say what he said than to say I want to form a Big Three with my friends.

    I'm not comparing the two at all. I'm not saying one makes you a bad person and the other makes you a good person. I never even judged his character outside of saying he won't work hard (which I clarified was a facetious comment).

    But a player will go out and say, "I want to play with my two buddies" and get hammered for it meanwhile David West says, "I want to play for a team that can get into the Finals" and no one bats an eye.

    So I made a point to say I find his comment more off putting than someone saying the former comment.

    The rest you're adding yourself.
    Come on with this though man. Don't say/imply something and then play the "I never said that" role. Those two things have nothing to do with one another so why bring up the other one? Because you're comparing the merits of the two actions. You feel it's more off putting to say what he said than someone wanting to team up with their friends? Okay I guess. What you're doing is making a commentary against the idea of people that have had a problem with the super teaming mentality that's happened in the league in recent years. That's fine, that's your right, but don't tell me you're not comparing something when that's the whole point of your statement. Why nobody is batting an eye at something like what he said but getting mad about teaming up. I merely provided the context of WHY people would take exception to one as opposed to the other.

    No one has ever taken exception to old vets with about two to four years of solid ball left in them signing on with a contender as a last gasp at getting a ring that's what this is. However a bunch of 21-25 year old top 20 players in the league trying to strategically put themselves on one team in the weakest conference possible to run through beat down competition to what they think will be an easy championship, yes people raise issue with. See, context.

    Of course he would be a contributor. He's a good player.

    I said that he sounds like he wants a free ride. He just wants to play for a team that obviously doesn't really need him if they are good enough to probably make the Finals.

    If he added in the words: "I want to play for a team on the cusp, a team I think I can help push to a championship" then I would have felt differently.

    Not sure why the words I typed are being interpreted as something else like I called this dude a bum.
    He said a team that can legitimately taste the Finals AKA a contender. Why does this even need to be explained what he was saying? Using this year's playoffs teams, I think it's safe to say he would sign with the Bulls, Warriors, Spurs, Cavs, Rockets, Grizzlies, Wizards and Clippers and possibly the Hawks if they were still exactly as constructed a week ago.

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    • CMH
      Making you famous
      • Oct 2002
      • 26203

      #2342
      Re: 2015 Offseason Thread

      Originally posted by King_B_Mack
      Come on with this though man. Don't say/imply something and then play the "I never said that" role. Those two things have nothing to do with one another so why bring up the other one? Because you're comparing the merits of the two actions. You feel it's more off putting to say what he said than someone wanting to team up with their friends? Okay I guess. What you're doing is making a commentary against the idea of people that have had a problem with the super teaming mentality that's happened in the league in recent years. That's fine, that's your right, but don't tell me you're not comparing something when that's the whole point of your statement. Why nobody is batting an eye at something like what he said but getting mad about teaming up. I merely provided the context of WHY people would take exception to one as opposed to the other.

      No one has ever taken exception to old vets with about two to four years of solid ball left in them signing on with a contender as a last gasp at getting a ring that's what this is. However a bunch of 21-25 year old top 20 players in the league trying to strategically put themselves on one team in the weakest conference possible to run through beat down competition to what they think will be an easy championship, yes people raise issue with. See, context.
      That's fair. I didn't intend to compare the two in that sense but I can see why it would seem like a comparison as you describe it.


      He said a team that can legitimately taste the Finals AKA a contender. Why does this even need to be explained what he was saying? Using this year's playoffs teams, I think it's safe to say he would sign with the Bulls, Warriors, Spurs, Cavs, Rockets, Grizzlies, Wizards and Clippers and possibly the Hawks if they were still exactly as constructed a week ago.
      Eh, this, I don't know. We're both picking at words at this point so I won't argue with you over it because I'm doing the same thing.

      I think he meant one thing, you feel he meant another. I just don't like the exact words he used. Possible he was misquoted or meant to add in some more.
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      • dubcity
        Hall Of Fame
        • May 2012
        • 17873

        #2343
        Re: 2015 Offseason Thread

        Ranadivé is setting that team up for disaster. Seems like working with Lacob rubbed off on him, except for the whole making good decisions part. The idea of Ellis and/or Rondo changing and clicking to the point of making that team competitive in the west is a joke.

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        • Majingir
          Moderator
          • Apr 2005
          • 47513

          #2344
          Re: 2015 Offseason Thread

          Originally posted by Boltman
          Relegate the whole lot of them to the D league.
          Why? West looks like he's gonna be helping out some title contending team. Smith is still good defensively. Davis is only 25 and can even start on occasion(or just play big minutes off the bench). Scola not as good since leaving Houston,but still can be a good player off the bench. Boozer slowing down but still, around 25 or so mins a game he can still play.

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          • King_B_Mack
            All Star
            • Jan 2009
            • 24450

            #2345
            Re: 2015 Offseason Thread

            Originally posted by dubcity
            Ranadivé is setting that team up for disaster. Seems like working with Lacob rubbed off on him, except for the whole making good decisions part. The idea of Ellis and/or Rondo changing and clicking to the point of making that team competitive in the west is a joke.
            Last parting shot of annoyance from David Stern. If he wasn't so concerned with putting the screws to Seattle, the Kings could be in Balmer's hands headed to Seattle by now and we'd be spared those god awful Clippers uniforms as well. Hit us with the double shots man.

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            • Bpurc22
              Rookie
              • Apr 2009
              • 195

              #2346
              Re: 2015 Offseason Thread

              Monta to the Pacers lol
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              • Jm0ney2001
                MVP
                • Nov 2003
                • 1352

                #2347
                Re: 2015 Offseason Thread

                Monta Ellis to the pacers??

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                • jb12780
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 10665

                  #2348
                  Re: 2015 Offseason Thread

                  That was a Broussard sauces tweet take it with a grain of salt.

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                  • JODYE
                    JB4MVP
                    • May 2012
                    • 4834

                    #2349
                    Re: 2015 Offseason Thread

                    Rumored deal to be 3 yrs/$32 million per Woj.

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                    • bigeastbumrush
                      My Momma's Son
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 19245

                      #2350
                      Re: 2015 Offseason Thread

                      Originally posted by CMH
                      I agree with all of the above except the last sentence.

                      I like David West. I think a couple guys think I dislike him or don't like his character/attitude but that wasn't the point of my post.

                      West is good enough for a contender, to help them get those extra points and rebounds that a bench guy can get.

                      I do think turning down $12 MM was a bad move if financials are his concern. But it's clear (or I think it's clear) that money isn't his goal right now. He just wants a ring.
                      My point was which Finals contender is going to have cap space left to sign him to a contract that pays more than $12M/yr?

                      If anything, the Finals contenders will only be left with MLEs to use.

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                      • King_B_Mack
                        All Star
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 24450

                        #2351
                        Re: 2015 Offseason Thread

                        Think Stein tweeted it first, so that makes it a little better. Broussard don't break anything man lol.

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                        • FaM0us Skins
                          MVP
                          • May 2010
                          • 1960

                          #2352
                          Re: 2015 Offseason Thread

                          ESPN sources say Pistons have struck verbal agreement w/Aron Baynes to sign C away from Spurs on three-year deal.
                          NBA: Spurs
                          NFL: Saints
                          MLB: Tigers

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                          • King_B_Mack
                            All Star
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 24450

                            #2353
                            Re: 2015 Offseason Thread

                            Marc J. Spears ‏@SpearsNBAYahoo 17m17 minutes ago
                            The Kings have agreed to a multi-year deal with guard James Anderson, a source told Yahoo Sports.
                            Lesser talked about player moves.

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                            • RedSceptile
                              MVP
                              • Jun 2011
                              • 3680

                              #2354
                              Re: 2015 Offseason Thread

                              Mavs interested in trading for Hibbert if they lose out on DJ. I mean I guess what more can they do at this point? Honestly since that title team they just haven't been able to put a good product out on the court. Oh well sucks.

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                              • Boltman
                                L.A. to S.D. to HI
                                • Mar 2004
                                • 18283

                                #2355
                                Re: 2015 Offseason Thread

                                Originally posted by Majingir
                                Why? West looks like he's gonna be helping out some title contending team. Smith is still good defensively. Davis is only 25 and can even start on occasion(or just play big minutes off the bench). Scola not as good since leaving Houston,but still can be a good player off the bench. Boozer slowing down but still, around 25 or so mins a game he can still play.
                                I was being facetious, my comments were in jest.

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