2015 Offseason Thread

[cima]

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So you list all the issues with their roster as reasons to blow it all up, but ignore that they still managed to win 38 games with arguably one of the 5 worst rosters top to bottom in the league? And Vogel should get gone just for the sake of rebuilding?

I can't subscribe to that. Maybe if they won 12 games last year and they visibly quit on their coach. Not for speculation during a rough patch a year and a half ago.

I'm more of the opinion that the team peaked under him already. Even if they were fully healthy, they weren't going to win the East this year. Not even sure if they could beat ATL, let alone Cleveland.

[OSUFan_88]

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Coach who I wouldn't suspect that is a big name...

Doc Rivers and Rick Carlisle are ones who are both "plausible" yet would be totally shocking.

Doc for underachieving with his team and the huge meltdown, Rick...because maybe the Mavs FO wants Rondo more? IDK.

[King_B_Mack]

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Wouldn't be surprised if it was George Karl if it's true. Sacramento is a ****ed up enough franchise to do that kind of thing.

[vtcha]

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Obviously it's Pop

[King_B_Mack]

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Obviously it's Pop

****, it might be Spo if it's true.

[vtcha]

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****, it might be Spo if it's true.

That would really shock me.

Not so much from a coaching standpoint but how the Heat organization prides itself as a family and the fact that he has been there for almost half his life.

[OSUFan_88]

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Man, if the Heat fired Spo, I'd imagine about 29 other NBA franchises scrambling over themselves to get him on their staff as either a HC or an assistant.

Pop is a non-starter. Dude could murder someone and still be the HC of the Spurs.

Maybe a one and done coach? Although I'm not sure anyone would be truly shocked if either Scott or Fisher got fired. And for Pack, maybe Kidd is moving on again.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Same reason Scott Brooks got fired, the team went as far as they could with that coach. The Pacers last year (13-14) had so many internal issues and all the talk was how Vogel didn't have credibility in the locker room. The Pacers team that went to 2 ECF no longer has an open window. The PG injury set them back, Lance is gone, West is older and is probably trade bait now with a big expiring contract (and the dude deserves to ring chase), Hibbert is forever mediocre...etc. They need new blood. Vogel wouldn't be a bad choice to coach a rebuilding team, it's just my opinion if Brooks can get fired, I don't see why Vogel couldn't either.

Yet those same players(the ones whose voices matter the most in that locker room like West and PG and Hill and most importantly, Bird)stood by him after losing to Miami and even after everything they dealt with last year. Personally I thought that was overblown like every other non positive story because you don't go from losing the support of your team to all of a sudden getting back WHILE getting worse in less than a year.

Teams that fire coaches for the sake of firing them are the same ones that are constantly floating in mediocrity every year and not showing any progress aside from one fluke *** year they may have.

And OSU, I definitely don't think Carlisle is anywhere near the hot seat, especially if it comes down to Cuban and Donnie Nelson having to chose between he and Rondo.

[ThreeKing]

2015 Offseason Thread

I bet it's Byron Scott to clear way for Thibs. That's my guess.

Here's more smoke:

[Vni]

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I bet it's Byron Scott to clear way for Thibs. That's my guess.

Now you're talking. That'd be one great way to start the off season. I kinda doubt the Lakers would do something like that to Scott though. Probably not happening.

[Hassan Darkside]

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How about Dwane Casey? Back to back first round exits, including getting washed by the Wizards this post season. I know he just signed an extension last year but they finished the season 16-19 and looked like they didn't belong during the playoffs.

[zasbury25]

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How about Dwane Casey? Back to back first round exits, including getting washed by the Wizards this post season. I know he just signed an extension last year but they finished the season 16-19 and looked like they didn't belong during the playoffs.

Could be Casey, but the Raptors recently let go two assistant coaches, so I think he may be safe for another year. If the team doesn't progress in 15-16, I could see him being gone next offseason.

I'm going to throw a name out there...Randy Wittman. I know he got to the 2nd round and the games were close without Wall, but maybe it is a similar situation like in New Orleans where they feel they need to go in a different direction to progress further along. He's been on everyone's hot seat for quite some time...

[OSUFan_88]

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Maybe I'm wrong, but with two key players coming off injury, I'm pretty sure the last thing I want is for Thibs to be hired in the offseason if I'm Kobe or Julius Randle.

Then again, I think Thibs is incredibly overrated.

[JazzMan]

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With how this league rotates coaches, you'd be better off making a list of coaches that are locked in at their own spot:

Steve Kerr
Mike Budenholzer
Brad Stevens
David Blatt
Quin Snyder
Doc Rivers
Greg Popovic
Rick Carlisle
Dave Joerger
Frank Vogel

Anyone else is really fair game, IMO... Stotts and Wittman have been successful but have more than their fair share of doubters within their own fanbase. Same with McHale.

I'm gonna go with Steve Clifford. The Hornets looked awful most of the year.

[JODYE]

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Well unless Ballmer does double duty and fires Doc as GM and coach, then I'll go with Wittman, even though I'm not sure that is a "big surprise".

Sounds more like click bait from Sheridan than anything.