2016 NBA Offseason Thread

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re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

Oh now yall wanna prop up the back in the day players huh?

LOL, Like CMH said, it's a different NBA. A players league, tailored for entertainment and paying guys whoppers of money.

The internet bashes anybody that doesnt win, period.

KD knew OKC peaked and it was time to go. He chose a place he felt he could realate to guys whom he spent time with on an olympic team

He watched lebron do the same thing

Most of all he's a free agent, he can go where he wants to go

Charles Barkley just has to have something to say. GM's did it back in the day, now players do it themselves

[CMH]

re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

I'm not going to get into it anymore.

I was clearly wrong to bring up Drexler or Rodman. I'll eat that error. I'm cool with it.

Still won't back down from Durant doing what's best for him.

The same way the examples I provided were not good comparisons, the examples of the past greats that didn't team up are not good comparisons for a different league.

If the argument is, I wish it wasn't the way the league is now (which I think JODYE was saying) then that's cool. We all want something.

But the league isn't changing and I doubt Durant going to Golden State is going to hurt anyone's bottom line, including their legacy.

That's it from me on this topic.

[wco81]

re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

Wade going to give up that Miami lifestyle for $10 million difference?

For the cold winters of Denver, Milwaukee or Chicago?

His wife can't be too pleased.

[King_B_Mack]

re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

So then who are the guys in the good old days that didn't team up?

This answer will nullify my entire post if you don't name Hall of Fame greats.

You're right Drexler was traded to Houston and Rodman the same to Chicago. Bad examples and I was wrong there.

That being said, I mentioned Bird and Magic because the fact remains they didn't have to team up with anyone; their situations were great.

Meanwhile some other greats stuck it out with one team and got nothing out of it. You want to mention the good old days without taking into consideration those days were different: players had less financial freedom and the league was smaller, allowing more access to stars on your roster.

It's a different league. Gotta get used to it.

I don't think the financial aspect is the big thing in that though. I don't think those guys were really wired to team up to the degree we've seen in the recent NBA to make these superteams I think they really did want to beat each other and be the best. I think the growth of AAU ball has more to do with the difference in the player's willingness to link up the way they have than anything.

[ojandpizza]

re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

I think the biggest difference in Durant leaving in comparison to guys like Magic, Bird, Duncan not having to leave, or KG, LeBron, needing to leave, is that Durant actually had a cast good enough to win it all. He didn't need to leave to find something more. Kg would have never won in Minnesota, LeBron in Cleveland. KD probably should have had a great shot this past season but he couldn't perform as the best player on the court and they blew a 3-1 lead.

That's where I think the move, in the long run, does actually "hurt" his legacy a tad. If he wins a title this year does that ring, under the circumstances, give him a value greater than Malone, Barkley, guys who didn't win one? On the reverse does winning under these circumstances put his championship along the lines of Pippen, McHale, etc rather than "the guys" who headlined those teams.


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[J_Posse]

re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

Oh now yall wanna prop up the back in the day players huh?

LOL, Like CMH said, it's a different NBA. A players league, tailored for entertainment and paying guys whoppers of money.

The internet bashes anybody that doesnt win, period.

KD knew OKC peaked and it was time to go. He chose a place he felt he could realate to guys whom he spent time with on an olympic team

He watched lebron do the same thing

Most of all he's a free agent, he can go where he wants to go

Charles Barkley just has to have something to say. GM's did it back in the day, now players do it themselves

That previous core in Oklahoma City peaked, but they had Durant, Westbrook, Adams and Kanter to build around. They just moved Ibaka for a good, young combo guard in Oladipo, they also received a nice prospect in Sabonis and a veteran, "stretch 4" on a cheap deal in Ersan.

He bailed cause (like LeBron before him) he wanted the easiest path to a championship.

He didn't want anymore of the pressure and disappointment of carrying a franchise on his back (with Westbrook). Instead wants to jump right to winning titles after "giving so much" (while being paid greatly too).

Basically he just wants to hit the "Easy" button for a change. Plus, he's a free agent and isn't beholden to any team or fans. I see both sides of the coin, but it still feels like a chump move.

You can say "who cares" or respect it if you want, but I won't and plenty of people will agree with both of us.

That's the best part about sports and having an opinion, we all see these situations and outcomes differently.

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[bigeastbumrush]

re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

We're gonna read that Wade was blown away by the Knicks presentation.

Blown away by a team he didn't meet with.

The meetings are taking place IN New York...not WITH New York.

[DieHardYankee26]

re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

What if he looked at both rosters, decided he could win with either, and just said I'd rather live in Cali than OKC?

THIS IS HIS LIFE, **** basketball lol

[King_B_Mack]

re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

Well one down.




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[bigeastbumrush]

re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

People make me laugh trying to pencil in GSW for the chip.

Who is doing the rebounding? Oh wait...they're never gonna miss a shot right?

Who is blocking shots? 6'5 Draymond?

How is Curry gonna defend any legit guard? Kyrie cooked him. Also exposed him once his shot wasn't falling.

Where's the depth?

Don't get me wrong...they'll run through the regular season and they should be favorites. But they do have holes.

[JODYE]

re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

That previous core in Oklahoma City peaked, but they had Durant, Westbrook, Adams and Kanter to build around. They just moved Ibaka for a good, young combo guard in Oladipo, they also received a nice prospect in Sabonis and a veteran, "stretch 4" on a cheap deal in Ersan.

He bailed cause (like LeBron before him) he wanted the easiest path to a championship.

He didn't want anymore of the pressure and disappointment of carrying a franchise on his back (with Westbrook). Instead wants to jump right to winning titles after "giving so much" (while being paid greatly too).

Basically he just wants to hit the "Easy" button for a change. Plus, he's a free agent and isn't beholden to any team or fans. I see both sides of the coin, but it still feels like a chump move.

You can say "who cares" or respect it if you want, but I won't and plenty of people will agree with both of us.

That's the best part about sports and having an opinion, we all see these situations and outcomes differently.

from Spurs Nation/Bills Backer HQ

Everyone beat me to it but pretty much this.

Again, as I said in my first post, and to CMH, I GET IT and I understand the league has changed but doesn't make it any less weak. At least to me. Again, there isn't a situation you can compare to this that makes it feel 'good' to me because it literally hasn't happened before. But as I said, this is the new NBA and we all gotta get used to it.

[J_Posse]

re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

What if he looked at both rosters, decided he could win with either, and just said I'd rather live in Cali than OKC?

THIS IS HIS LIFE, **** basketball lol

I don't really think city or lifestyle has anything to do with it. From hearing a lot about Kevin around here (PG County, where he is actually from) he is a pretty low key, modest and unassuming guy. I actually think he loved living in Oklahoma City in many ways.

I could definitely see outside pressures from Nike, his family and "inner circle" playing a part in deciding to leave. Most of all though, I think it is just the opportunity to win championships without having to be the man every night, play 40+ minutes every postseason and have the burden of expectation placed primarily on his shoulders.

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[roadman]

re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

Yeah, the cost of living is close, isn't it? lol

[J_Posse]

re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

Yeah, the cost of living is close, isn't it? lol

Why would a mulit millionaire care about cost of living at all? If that were the case then all these NBA guys would play/live in Florida.....

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[roadman]

re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

Why would a mulit millionaire care about cost of living at all? If that were the case then all these NBA guys would play/live in Florida.....

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True, I wasn't thinking about the multi millionaire status, it shouldn't matter. Duh.