The Finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden St. Warriors Part 2

[VDusen04]

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So there's no doubt whatsoever that he was aiming for the nuts?

I reckon the idea is the strike had no explainable basis whatsoever in terms of possibly being the result of a natural basketball play. He wasn't boxing out, he wasn't sprawling for a steal attempt, he wasn't even trying to get up like a normal being.

The right arm was a separate act from anything one could reason to be natural; it was likely deemed as unnecessary contact and/or unsportsmanlike and was therefore subject to a flagrant 1.

[dsallupinyaarea]

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Just not a good look for Bron to be publicly lobbying for a suspension. Cavs better not lose after all this.

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[VDusen04]

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Again, nobody is saying the man isn't hurt or that he isn't affected at ALL.

My point is we don't need to hear about that **** every damn day or play the "Man, he looks off" card when they lose but don't mention it when he's having his Curry moments either.

In the words of the great Marlo Stanfield, "You want it to be one way"

Reminds me of when ESPN used to tell us everyday how much of a great player Lebron was in 80 different ways with those random *** stats.

I mean, when he looks off... that's kind of a key talking point, no? Wouldn't it be natural to speculate in that case, even repeatedly so, particularly when his "off" play varies so wildly from virtually anything we saw in the previous 88 games? Wouldn't it make less sense to speculate what could be wrong when he's playing well?

If he's hurt and you're acknowledging he's hurt, that's a big deal, particularly when there's one series left, a two-game break in-between, and the speculation involves the first unanimous choice MVP in league history.

I guess if the injuries were all disclosed with certainty, that'd remove the speculation aspect and lead to less "I wonder if he's hurt" approaches. But then again, I imagine at that point the discussion would just shift to whether he was faking the disclosed injuries or focus on how he couldn't play through pain like MJ with the flu could.

[wco81]

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I reckon the idea is the strike had no explainable basis whatsoever in terms of possibly being the result of a natural basketball play. He wasn't boxing out, he wasn't sprawling for a steal attempt, he wasn't even trying to get up like a normal being.

The right arm was a separate act from anything one could reason to be natural; it was likely deemed as unnecessary contact and/or unsportsmanlike and was therefore subject to a flagrant 1.

The explanation is that he got slammed down, then stepped over and was lashing back.

He swung his arm twice without planting his foot. Barely grazed the back of Lebron's groin and then the second one whiffed.

[swac07]

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Just not a good look for Bron to be publicly lobbying for a suspension. Cavs better not lose after all this.

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Did he come out of his mouth and say "I want Green suspended" ???



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[inkcil]

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Again, nobody is saying the man isn't hurt or that he isn't affected at ALL.

My point is we don't need to hear about that **** every damn day or play the "Man, he looks off" card when they lose but don't mention it when he's having his Curry moments either.

In the words of the great Marlo Stanfield, "You want it to be one way"

Reminds me of when ESPN used to tell us everyday how much of a great player Lebron was in 80 different ways with those random *** stats.

Again, regardless of win or loss we heard about Cleveland's health for a whole year and it was a big topic coming into the Finals that they are finally healthy. They're finally healthy. A healthy Cleveland. A healthy Cleveland. What will GS do against a healthy Cleveland. Last year they didn't play a healthy Cleveland. This time Cleveland is healthy.

On Curry, he is obviously not himself, win or loss. He missed some WIDE OPEN 3's in Game 1 and Game 4. He is also did not handle the ball as well in the WINS. But regardless, no one will feel sorry for you if you lose, 100% healthy or 75% or 25% or whatever.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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You're still missing my point but whatever.

I can already see folks blaming the knee/shoulder if they only beat Cleveland by 15 instead of 30 tomorrow.

[VDusen04]

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The explanation is that he got slammed down, then stepped over and was lashing back.

He swung his arm twice without planting his foot. Barely grazed the back of Lebron's groin and then the second one whiffed.

Slammed down is a very strong phrase to use in this situation. Both James and Green entangled their arms and James followed through, leading to Green hitting the deck. Could have been a double foul, could have been a James foul; definitely not a slam.

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James stepped over Green, which has happened before in an NBA game, on the Finals stage no less (Allen Iverson over Tyronn Lue). Usually, play goes on. In this case, I could see it being unsportsmanlike. And LeBron James received an unsportsmanlike penalty.

Green then struck James' groin for no possibly explainable basketball reason. One can call it a graze, but it was contact nonetheless, and enough to incite James in response. If nothing else, it was absolutely unnecessary and similarly unsportsmanlike. In fact, if it'd been anything more than what it was, in terms of force, Green probably would have been looking at another flagrant 2.

[inkcil]

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Just not a good look for Bron to be publicly lobbying for a suspension. Cavs better not lose after all this.

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Yeah he (slickly) lobbied in the post game. He whined about the words spoken and talked about the team looking at the play in the locker room after the game.

Straight desperation/pity party stuff if you ask me. Dude breaking all kinda man-code on the podium and getting a pass.

[swac07]

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Well atleast if they win draymond will be able to celebrate with the team

Draymond is gonna be sitting in the car listening to the game outside of Oracle acting like this guy lol

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[VDusen04]

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You're still missing my point but whatever.

I can already see folks blaming the knee/shoulder if they only beat Cleveland by 15 instead of 30 tomorrow.

If Curry ends up really being injured, I don't see why people wouldn't take that into account of their analysis of the series, regardless of the result. Or is that still not what you're getting at? Are you just talking about the randoms who spout weird stuff like "KInG J8MES da BeST" and "OnlY time Curry not win he hurt doe"?

[dsallupinyaarea]

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Lol he's gonna show up to the celebration so lit.

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[ProfessaPackMan]

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Love better go off tomorrow, ain't no excuse for him not to.

[Cavsfan4life]

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They made the right call, this wasnt his 1st shot either from Draymond connecting with LBJ. It happened in a similar way as the Delly/Iggy situation played out. Draymond has to get better with controlling his energy through wild arm and leg movement. Not a doubt that LBJ baited him, Warriors are going to demolish the Cavs.

[jeebs9]

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I reckon the idea is the strike had no explainable basis whatsoever in terms of possibly being the result of a natural basketball play. He wasn't boxing out, he wasn't sprawling for a steal attempt, he wasn't even trying to get up like a normal being.

The right arm was a separate act from anything one could reason to be natural; it was likely deemed as unnecessary contact and/or unsportsmanlike and was therefore subject to a flagrant 1.

Exactly!

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