The Finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden St. Warriors Part 2

[cima]

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You always gotta love the LeBron crowd making all their Jordan comparisons age based... since MJ and LeBron started playing in the NBA at the same age and Jordan didn't take 1.75 years off to play baseball lol.

Man I'm not falling for this bait. I am stans of both, they are 1A and 1B to me.

But I'll ask you this; are you actually trying to use coming into the league at age 21 and retiring for 1.75 years as a pro-MJ argument in comparison of what they accomplished by age 31? Cause that's an interesting approach to the debate.

[Sportsbuck]

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Man I'm not falling for this bait. I am stans of both, they are 1A and 1B to me.

Not trying to bait, and it's not just you I'm talking about. You see it everywhere (Including ESPN) when they do these LeBron-Jordan comparisons.

But I'll ask you this; are you actually trying to use coming into the league at age 21 and retiring for 1.75 years as a pro-MJ argument in comparison of what they accomplished by age 31? Cause that's an interesting approach to the debate.

No, it's just absurd to use age as a comparison when years played in the league would be a much more accurate depiction of what each accomplished at certain points given that it would be equal, given that one started playing in the NBA 3 years before the other one did.

[ojandpizza]

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I'll just never understand how LeBron coming out of high school will at times be used against him. This guy came in with the type of impact that even took all time greats like Kobe and KG a few years to establish.

Dropping 31/7/7 by the age of 21 and making the all NBA first team, taking a subpar squad to the finals by 22, leading the league in scoring by 23. But people gravitate away from those positives and just look at the counting stats downplaying them because of a "head start" in comparison to always MJ even if nobody is trying to make a claim against MJ. Just because both their names may show on the same page or in similar company or whatever.


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[ojandpizza]

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Not trying to bait, and it's not just you I'm talking about. You see it everywhere (Including ESPN) when they do these LeBron-Jordan comparisons.



No, it's just absurd to use age as a comparison when years played in the league would be a much more accurate depiction of what each accomplished at certain points given that it would be equal, given that one started playing in the NBA 3 years before the other one did.

I don't even think that's the point of those posts, if it is then my bad on misinterpreting.. I always look at it as more of LeBron still has time to accomplish more just like MJ did after 31.


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[Sportsbuck]

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Well yeah, all time counting stats are always going to be skewed because how many more games LeBron will have played. But that doesn't make them any less impressive. The longevity guys like Kareem, Duncan, Malone, Kobe had are part of what made them so great. People aren't taking that away from them just because a stat list has their name mentioned as well as Jordan's.

Are you really trying to say that asking to compare these two on an equal level (i.e. years played as opposed to age) is taking something away from LeBron?

[wwharton]

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Every great championship team needs one crazy guy right? Isnt that the axiom?

'11 Dallas had Stephenson.

I guess the Birdman qualifies for the Heat.

But who's that guy on the Cavs? Delly? Eh, I guess Delly does fit the bill.

[Hockeynut99]

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Lmao 1a and 1b please. James is great no doubt for this eara just like Curry. But I have a hard time thinking James would dominate Jordan's eara like Jordan did against those beast of players. I like to see how Malone would have dealt with James (one forearm to the head coming up) I think Rodman got it right when he said James would be just a normal player in his eara. Now I will say one things James impressed the hell of me this series, but who still took the game wining Three? and for for record that was goal tending.

[cima]

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Not trying to bait, and it's not just you I'm talking about. You see it everywhere (Including ESPN) when they do these LeBron-Jordan comparisons.

No, it's just absurd to use age as a comparison when years played in the league would be a much more accurate depiction of what each accomplished at certain points given that it would be equal, given that one started playing in the NBA 3 years before the other one did.

I don't see how comparison by age is absurd given that it's the one thing that is equal between the two. Can't take away from LeBron for starting earlier in age but reward MJ for starting later and taking time off, that just doesn't make sense.

[cima]

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Lmao 1a and 1b please. James is great no doubt for this eara just like Curry. But I have a hard time thinking James would dominate Jordan's eara like Jordan did against those beast of players. I like to see how Malone would have dealt with James (one forearm to the head coming up) I think Rodman got it right when he said James would be just a normal player in his eara. Now I will say one things James impressed the hell of me this series, but who still took the game wining Three? and for for record that was goal tending.

1A and 1B was in reference to where they rank as my favorites. MJ is #1 on my GOAT list, LeBron is probably creeping top 5 now though.

And so much of this post is just wrong. Lol @ goaltending

[Hockeynut99]

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So has the Cavs ever won before? They say the first championship since 52 years?! Are they talking any sports team in Cleveland?

[ojandpizza]

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Are you really trying to say that asking to compare these two on an equal level (i.e. years played as opposed to age) is taking something away from LeBron?

It's the only equalizer the two have between them..

But regardless it doesn't really matter to me how they get compared.. Easily the two best players I've watched without even looking at what they've done in 10 seasons or by the age 26 or whatever.


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[Hockeynut99]

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1A and 1B was in reference to where they rank as my favorites. MJ is #1 on my GOAT list, LeBron is probably creeping top 5 now though.

Oh ok. Lol. I was like come on dude lol. Congrats on the win! I am happy for Cleveland. And in a strange way for Lebron too. I honk he will go to the Knicks or Lackers now. Just my guess.

[Hockeynut99]

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It's the only equalizer the two have between them..

But regardless it doesn't really matter to me how they get compared.. Easily the two best players I've watched without even looking at what they've done in 10 seasons or by the age 26 or whatever.


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You need to watch more of Magic but it is probaly Beofer your time. Bird too.

[Sportsbuck]

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I don't see how comparison by age is absurd given that it's the one thing that is equal between the two.

But how is it equal given that one will have more time (and therein more opportunities to accumulate stats and accolades)? It's inherently unequal. When you compare based upon years played, you are equal across the board because then they've both had the same amount of time in the NBA and the same opportunities to accumulate stats and accolades.

Can't take away from LeBron for starting earlier in age but reward MJ for starting later and taking time off, that just doesn't make sense.

It's not taking away or rewarding. It's establishing a way to compare both of their careers equally, since arbitrarily deciding to compare at ages is always going to be skewed.

[Sportsbuck]

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It's the only equalizer the two have between them..

But that's thing though... it's equal in terms of number, but there's a four year difference in terms of years played lol.

But regardless it doesn't really matter to me how they get compared.. Easily the two best players I've watched without even looking at what they've done in 10 seasons or by the age 26 or whatever.

I can agree with this. Jordan is the GOAT in my eyes, but LeBron is firmly cemented at #2.