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  • cam21224
    MVP
    • Jun 2008
    • 2033

    #616
    Re: 2017-2018 Off-Season Thread

    Sorry in advance 24 but a Spurs fan called the Lakers organization dysfunctional a couple days ago because it's young players troll each other on social media(which they've been doing all year btw) but the Spurs franchise doesn't know wether it's star player was injured or not injured all year, wants to be there or not be there [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]
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    • ojandpizza
      Hall Of Fame
      • Apr 2011
      • 29807

      #617
      Re: 2017-2018 Off-Season Thread

      Cavs could always let the Spurs have George Hill back, make the money work with Thompson, or Clarkson and trade the 8th pick for Kawhi.

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      • RedSceptile
        MVP
        • Jun 2011
        • 3680

        #618
        Re: 2017-2018 Off-Season Thread

        Originally posted by ojandpizza
        Cavs could always let the Spurs have George Hill back, make the money work with Thompson, or Clarkson and trade the 8th pick for Kawhi.
        lol no oj just no.

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        • ojandpizza
          Hall Of Fame
          • Apr 2011
          • 29807

          #619
          Re: 2017-2018 Off-Season Thread

          Originally posted by RedSceptile
          lol no oj just no.
          ok fine, they can have JR Smith too.

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          • redsox4evur
            Hall Of Fame
            • Jul 2013
            • 18169

            #620
            Re: 2017-2018 Off-Season Thread

            Originally posted by ojandpizza
            Cavs could always let the Spurs have George Hill back, make the money work with Thompson, or Clarkson and trade the 8th pick for Kawhi.
            If one of those players was young and actually decent that would be a decent deal to put together. I think the real deal will be closer to something like this than Jaylen, salary and the Kings pick.
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            • cima
              Hall Of Fame
              • Sep 2004
              • 13478

              #621
              Re: 2017-2018 Off-Season Thread

              **** it, Ainge should just be super aggressive and ruthless. Ship out Kyrie to get Kawhi and ship out Hayward to get LeBron. Rozier/Smart, Tatum/Brown, Kawhi, LeBron, Horford. Lol good luck scoring on that team.

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              • ProfessaPackMan
                Bamma
                • Mar 2008
                • 63852

                #622
                Re: 2017-2018 Off-Season Thread

                Might as well ship out Horford since he’s not that good anyway...
                #RespectTheCulture

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                • King_B_Mack
                  All Star
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 24450

                  #623
                  Re: 2017-2018 Off-Season Thread

                  I don't really get the Celtics desperation to make these big moves either really. Like if Kawhi is available and you have a realistic chance to get him and he wants to sign an extension with you, I guess it's cool, you HAVE to explore that I guess.

                  But there was a guy on NBA radio not long ago who made a solid point that I agree with. Part of the problem in the NBA and why Golden State can continue to do what they're doing is teams are doing things like trying to wait them out and doing TOO much trying to compete with them rather than sticking to what they're philosophy is and continuing what they're doing. Teams keep trying to make these epic moves and big time homerun moves while Golden State reloads with small moves and stay consistent. He was saying this mostly in response to the LeBron/Houston discussion, I think it also applies to Boston. What they have works, we've seen that they've hit on these pieces. Why keep looking to make these epic moves and looking at moving Kyrie or Brown or Tatum when you can make other smaller moves that could make the team better?

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                  • cima
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Sep 2004
                    • 13478

                    #624
                    Re: 2017-2018 Off-Season Thread

                    Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
                    Might as well ship out Horford since he’s not that good anyway...
                    Depends on the return but I don't necessarily disagree. But they need a big and they're already thin there. I'd keep him over Hayward

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                    • ProfessaPackMan
                      Bamma
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 63852

                      #625
                      Re: 2017-2018 Off-Season Thread

                      I was being sarcastic.
                      #RespectTheCulture

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                      • georgiafan
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 11094

                        #626
                        Re: 2017-2018 Off-Season Thread

                        Originally posted by King_B_Mack
                        But there was a guy on NBA radio not long ago who made a solid point that I agree with. Part of the problem in the NBA and why Golden State can continue to do what they're doing is teams are doing things like trying to wait them out and doing TOO much trying to compete with them rather than sticking to what they're philosophy is and continuing what they're doing. Teams keep trying to make these epic moves and big time homerun moves while Golden State reloads with small moves and stay consistent. He was saying this mostly in response to the LeBron/Houston discussion, I think it also applies to Boston. What they have works, we've seen that they've hit on these pieces. Why keep looking to make these epic moves and looking at moving Kyrie or Brown or Tatum when you can make other smaller moves that could make the team better?
                        That's what I would do if I am Philly just be patient and use the cap space for a few people on 1 year prove it deals unless you can land a star. If Fultz can become the player he has the potential to be you have your biggest problem solved. I don't see the hurry to rush things and trade 3 key pieces for Kawhi when only a very few teams have the chance to beat GS next year.
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                        • The 24th Letter
                          ERA
                          • Oct 2007
                          • 39373

                          #627
                          Re: 2017-2018 Off-Season Thread

                          Originally posted by RedSceptile
                          He's got some pretty good leverage because despite the injury this year, he is still considered an elite player and has that player option for next season so he can just play out a year with the Spurs right now or if they trade him somewhere he doesn't want play out a year there.
                          No real pressure on the Spurs side to pull any quick triggers though...not like they're a middling franchise thats stuck or collapses once their superstar leaves. They should take their time in getting exactly what they want.

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                          Last edited by The 24th Letter; 06-15-2018, 03:12 PM.

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                          • ojandpizza
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Apr 2011
                            • 29807

                            #628
                            Re: 2017-2018 Off-Season Thread

                            Originally posted by RedSceptile
                            lol no oj just no.
                            I'm sure they could get much better in return, but it's actually not a bad trade for them if other teams are worried of him not signing. Especially with him wanting out.

                            8th pick is better than where he was drafted anyways lol.

                            Thompson is the ideal big to pair alongside LA, Hill would be good for them with Parker and maybe Manu on the outs, Clarkson could likely start for them or assume Manu's old roll.

                            Cavs could take back the awful Patty Mills contract, rid them of Gasol or Green's money as well.

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                            • ojandpizza
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Apr 2011
                              • 29807

                              #629
                              Re: 2017-2018 Off-Season Thread

                              Originally posted by King_B_Mack
                              I don't really get the Celtics desperation to make these big moves either really. Like if Kawhi is available and you have a realistic chance to get him and he wants to sign an extension with you, I guess it's cool, you HAVE to explore that I guess.

                              But there was a guy on NBA radio not long ago who made a solid point that I agree with. Part of the problem in the NBA and why Golden State can continue to do what they're doing is teams are doing things like trying to wait them out and doing TOO much trying to compete with them rather than sticking to what they're philosophy is and continuing what they're doing. Teams keep trying to make these epic moves and big time homerun moves while Golden State reloads with small moves and stay consistent. He was saying this mostly in response to the LeBron/Houston discussion, I think it also applies to Boston. What they have works, we've seen that they've hit on these pieces. Why keep looking to make these epic moves and looking at moving Kyrie or Brown or Tatum when you can make other smaller moves that could make the team better?
                              That's the Ainge way man.

                              I was all about some Brown for Kawhi, but Brown played better than I expected come playoff time. I just don't know if it's worth it. If Kawhi commits to Boston and says he'll stay then it's something I would consider,

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                              • Sportsforever
                                NL MVP
                                • Mar 2005
                                • 20368

                                #630
                                Re: 2017-2018 Off-Season Thread

                                Maybe this was already discussed, but why is no one discussing the following:

                                a) If Kawhi's injury was so bad that he couldn't play this year at all, shouldn't teams be worried about his health going forward?

                                b) If his injury wasn't that bad, shouldn't teams be worried about the fact he refused to play?

                                I dunno...you guys are all throwing out these trade ideas like he's a sure fire thing to return to his previous form, but I see red flags. Am I missing something?
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