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  • Smallville102001
    All Star
    • Mar 2015
    • 6542

    #676
    Re: NBA Draft 2019

    Originally posted by ojandpizza
    I think the Lakers best move would be to shoot your shot at Kawhi/Klay/Kyrie without losing anyone, if it happens then you can explore trades.

    If none of those guys work out, then explore a trade for AD or Beal, if that works out rather than trying to completely clean house and offer someone else a max I think fill the roster with guys like Noel, Millsap, Danny Green, Redick, Ross, Aminu, Ariza, Collison, Robin Lopez, Ed Davis, Wes Matthews, Dedmon etc..

    If they were able to keep Kuz and Hart for example and add 2-3 of those guys they could build a pretty good team that is competing now and still improving.
    Maybe get 1 star and keep your other guys and had a lot of depth and hope either Kuz or BI became stars. I think 1 of them will.

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    • x_NBA_x
      Pro
      • Nov 2008
      • 665

      #677
      Re: NBA Draft 2019

      I personally think the Lakers should focus on a trade for Beal rather than Davis. He would suit Lebron's game a lot more and wouldn't cost as much in regards to assets. Throw in Kyrie/Kemba and you've got a solid core and plenty of depth in-case of injuries.

      Just look at how much the bench has been important these play-offs and if you can have an 8/9 man rotation rather than 3 stars and a completely depleted team, I feel it would be the better option.
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      • ojandpizza
        Hall Of Fame
        • Apr 2011
        • 29807

        #678
        Re: NBA Draft 2019

        Originally posted by x_NBA_x
        I personally think the Lakers should focus on a trade for Beal rather than Davis. He would suit Lebron's game a lot more and wouldn't cost as much in regards to assets. Throw in Kyrie/Kemba and you've got a solid core and plenty of depth in-case of injuries.

        Just look at how much the bench has been important these play-offs and if you can have an 8/9 man rotation rather than 3 stars and a completely depleted team, I feel it would be the better option.
        A Beal contract would look good because 3 years from now he's still under 30mil. Even getting someone like Oladipo or Lavine would give them a few more dollars to work with in terms of filling out needs rather than landing "stars".. I don't know what trade packages for any of those 3 guys would look like, but Washington at this point has to at least be somewhat considering to blow it up. If that's the case anything with the 4th pick attached to it has to be somewhat enticing for them. They are in cap hell.

        Edit: Especially if any of the Kawhi to LAL rumors end up being true, they could likely make that trade while keeping Lonzo and roll out Lonzo-Beal-Kawhi-LeBron.
        Last edited by ojandpizza; 05-22-2019, 12:43 PM.

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        • ProfessaPackMan
          Bamma
          • Mar 2008
          • 63852

          #679
          Re: NBA Draft 2019

          So what about players NOT being traded to the Lakers

          What about other teams? Y’all wanna trade every big name player there, lol
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          • x_NBA_x
            Pro
            • Nov 2008
            • 665

            #680
            Re: NBA Draft 2019

            Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
            So what about players NOT being traded to the Lakers

            What about other teams? Y’all wanna trade every big name player there, lol
            Think it's a hard off-season as a lot of teams are waiting to see how and where the top F/A's go first where as the Lakers are in a win now at all costs mode and with the potential damage done they may be out of reach for those top tier F/A's so trade scenarios are their most likely option.
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            • King_B_Mack
              All Star
              • Jan 2009
              • 24450

              #681
              Re: NBA Draft 2019

              Originally posted by ojandpizza
              With next years projections jumping to 109 that means the Lakers are more at 43ish, they can afford two max contracts, but only if Lonzo/BI are traded to acquire one of them. That would get them up over 50 mil minus the player they trade for.

              No way they can sign two max guys outright. In a scenario where they trade for someone like AD, or Bradley Beal, whoever, they should still have 25-30 left over to sign another guy.


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              ESPN has them with less than that with the cap jump. They posted this yesterday

              Projected room: $32.5 million

              Who returns: LeBron James, Lonzo Ball, Brandon Ingram, Kyle Kuzma, Josh Hart, Moritz Wagner, Isaac Bonga and first-rounder (own)

              Who may be gone: Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, Rajon Rondo, Lance Stephenson, JaVale McGee, Tyson Chandler, Mike Muscala and Jemerrio Jones (waived)

              Other charges: Incomplete roster charge ($3.6 million) and Luol Deng ($5 million)

              Moving up seven slots the night of the lottery cost the Lakers $3 million in room; the team is now $200,000 short of being able to sign a player such as Jimmy Butler to a max salary. Expect Bonga, a former second-round pick, to be traded if a player like Butler signals he wants to come to L.A.

              When it comes to a potential trade for Anthony Davis, there is a specific timeline for the Lakers to follow to be able to also add a max free agent. They would first need to use cap space on a free agent and then wait until Aug. 1 to send out a package for Davis that includes the No. 4 pick, Ingram, Ball and future draft assets. The first-round pick this season has no monetary value when it comes to a trade until a contract is signed. L.A. will need that extra salary to make a Davis trade work, but the contract isn't officially tradable until 30 days after signing.

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              • ojandpizza
                Hall Of Fame
                • Apr 2011
                • 29807

                #682
                Re: NBA Draft 2019

                Hmm basketball reference has them at about 67mil even with Deng’s 4.9, I know the draft pick eats into that more by roughly 7 mil, but I was assuming it’s going to be traded.

                Sportrac also has them at having a little over 41 million. Which would be about right if the draft pick is traded.

                So my 43ish was actually more like 41ish assuming they don’t keep the draft pick.


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                • OSUFan_88
                  Outback Jesus
                  • Jul 2004
                  • 25642

                  #683
                  Re: NBA Draft 2019

                  Seems like the consensus right now in most Mocks has the Cavs ending up with Culver at 5.

                  Probably best case scenario for the Cavs at the moment. I really like Culver and would have taken him if they couldn't get any of the top 3.
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                  • jeebs9
                    Fear is the Unknown
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 47568

                    #684
                    Re: NBA Draft 2019

                    Completely off topic guys. But I wanted to hear everyone opinion. Anyone seen Bazley play in the combine? He might have worked himself into for first round.



                    Would any one be shocked if Cam went in the top 5 lol?





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                    Last edited by jeebs9; 05-23-2019, 12:31 AM.
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                    • Smallville102001
                      All Star
                      • Mar 2015
                      • 6542

                      #685
                      Re: NBA Draft 2019

                      Originally posted by King_B_Mack
                      ESPN has them with less than that with the cap jump. They posted this yesterday
                      That is a lot more complicated then I thought it was with the whole August 1st thing.

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                      • ojandpizza
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Apr 2011
                        • 29807

                        #686
                        Re: NBA Draft 2019

                        Originally posted by Smallville102001
                        That is a lot more complicated then I thought it was with the whole August 1st thing.
                        The only problem with any of this is no matter which direction they go it only leaves them with minimum contracts to add to fill out the roster. The good thing, well depending how you look at it, is they can retain Muscala, KCP, Bullock via bird rights once the other deals are complete.

                        If they stay under the luxury tax they will also have the full MLE which is a little over 9 mil this year. Possibly enough for a vet trying to win to jump on board for one season. I believe if they go this route they have to agree to stay under the luxury tax for the full season, which means the big names would all have to be acquired during the off-season rather than during the season or at the deadline.

                        If over the tax that exception drops to closer to 5-6 mil, but they will also have the bi-annual exception which is another 3-4. It's only available every other year, so in either scenario they would have access to that this season.

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                        • ProfessaPackMan
                          Bamma
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 63852

                          #687
                          Re: NBA Draft 2019

                          I don’t trust any prospect from Syracuse.
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                          • jeebs9
                            Fear is the Unknown
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 47568

                            #688
                            Re: NBA Draft 2019

                            Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
                            I don’t trust any prospect from Syracuse.
                            My wife and I 100% agree with you. My wife from up there. Has seen that players just never improve beyond their run in the tournament. The best orangmen development wise is Jerami Grant. No beef with Melo. He's probably the best ever. But expanding their game post-college. I'd go with Grant
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                            • ojandpizza
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Apr 2011
                              • 29807

                              #689
                              Re: NBA Draft 2019

                              Originally posted by jeebs9

                              Would any one be shocked if Cam went in the top 5 lol?
                              Yes, and no. I still think in terms of just overall talent, athletic ability, size, potential, he's still probably a top 3-5 player like he was projected to be before the season started.

                              However, it is a bit concerning that even at the college level he seemed to struggle playing in a lesser role, without the ball as much, and his feel for the game just didn't blow me a way. That is usually a concern, because I think we see tons of talented guys who can't ever adjust to getting drafted and all of a sudden being the 8th, 9th guy on a roster. That could be him.

                              But some guys also really flourish with the pace and spacing of the NBA game. I guess it just depends on which teams are high on him. I think he most likely has a huge ceiling, the odds of him reaching it just seem pretty low IMO.

                              The positive would be he did show flashes in certain games, and he does have one of the best looking shots in the draft... But he just shot so poorly all year. And maybe that's just because it was too much stand still catch and shoot plays, one night 20 shots the next night 5 shots, etc.. Any time he did hit his outside shot at a decent rate he seemed to put up 20+ with ease. So there is still some promise. I mean he only took a little over 4 two-point attempts per game, and those were rarely easy transition buckets.. He might get a bit more stuff up and down the floor, in rhythm, at the NBA level.

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                              • DieHardYankee26
                                BING BONG
                                • Feb 2008
                                • 10178

                                #690
                                Re: NBA Draft 2019

                                I need Dolan to go ahead and file the paperwork for us to snatch the Maple Jordan nickname from Wiggins to give to our guy RJ, he's already failed to live up to it.
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