NBA Draft 2019

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Where’s the dislike feature when you need it?

And I thought Canadians came up with corny nicknames. Virginians aren’t much different SMH.

I see why we treat y’all like the Little Brother around here.

[DieHardYankee26]

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Canadians came up with this one too, I'm just coopting it for better use. Everybody has their role to play. We named everything the first time so we leave the nicknaming to the other states.

[jeebs9]

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Yes, and no. I still think in terms of just overall talent, athletic ability, size, potential, he's still probably a top 3-5 player like he was projected to be before the season started.

However, it is a bit concerning that even at the college level he seemed to struggle playing in a lesser role, without the ball as much, and his feel for the game just didn't blow me a way. That is usually a concern, because I think we see tons of talented guys who can't ever adjust to getting drafted and all of a sudden being the 8th, 9th guy on a roster. That could be him.

But some guys also really flourish with the pace and spacing of the NBA game. I guess it just depends on which teams are high on him. I think he most likely has a huge ceiling, the odds of him reaching it just seem pretty low IMO.

The positive would be he did show flashes in certain games, and he does have one of the best looking shots in the draft... But he just shot so poorly all year. And maybe that's just because it was too much stand still catch and shoot plays, one night 20 shots the next night 5 shots, etc.. Any time he did hit his outside shot at a decent rate he seemed to put up 20+ with ease. So there is still some promise. I mean he only took a little over 4 two-point attempts per game, and those were rarely easy transition buckets.. He might get a bit more stuff up and down the floor, in rhythm, at the NBA level.

Totally agree with the bold. And I think that's where people lose the focus on him. It's the difference of being the third wheel. It's a tough spot like you said. I know Ehh and I have gone back and forth about him during the season.

I think his size alone makes teams do a double take.

At 6'8'' in shoes, and brining to the table a 7'.25'' wingspan and 8'9.5'' standing reach, Reddish is an excellent size for a wing at the next level. He also showed up in great shape at 207 pounds with only a 4.7% body fat percentile. -David_Ray

He's stepped up in every game during the clutch. (In comparison to Andrew Wiggins or a Ben McLemore)

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edit: That other video I post from Twitter. That was the number one player for this year saying Cam was hardest to guard.

[ehh]

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Would any one be shocked if Cam went in the top 5 lol?

https://twitter.com/Ballislife/status/1129167857311518720?s=09

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Layup-line all-star. And for real, his J isn't even that pretty.

[ehh]

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However, it is a bit concerning that even at the college level he seemed to struggle playing in a lesser role, without the ball as much, and his feel for the game just didn't blow me a way.

The thing is that Coach K tried to use him as a PnR ball handler earlier in the season and he simply couldn't do it. It's not like his role was reduced because RJ and Zion were so good, it was because Cam was so bad. There were several games where RJ was shouldering way too much of the load and Duke would have killed for one more playmaker but Cam couldn't get it done.

[ojandpizza]

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Layup-line all-star. And for real, his J isn't even that pretty.

It's not "pretty" but more so he has a good release and anytime a player can make the shot look so effortless you have to assume that it will only continue to get better.

The thing is that Coach K tried to use him as a PnR ball handler earlier in the season and he simply couldn't do it. It's not like his role was reduced because RJ and Zion were so good, it was because Cam was so bad. There were several games where RJ was shouldering way too much of the load and Duke would have killed for one more playmaker but Cam couldn't get it done.

And maybe he just won't be a good pick and roll play-maker. I think that's fine for him at least in the beginning because he likely won't have to do that at the next level. But that lack of spacing, and teams playing Duke to shoot I do think limited a bit his opportunities to drive and finish, anything on the break went to Zion or RJ, so it wasn't so much that his role was reduced as much as easy bucket opportunities were rarely there for him. No excuse for not knocking down open shots, other than maybe a lack of rhythm, but I still think there is a chance pace and touches can help that at the next level as well.

Even if he could be an Andrew Wiggins who's a bigger threat from 3, that won't be a bad choice with Zion, RJ, Ja already off the table. But we'll see. Lot's of similar players have already busted out of the league, I figure his private workouts and interviews will determine his draft spot. If he's a hard worker who wants to improve and be great, he has the raw gifts you want.

[ehh]

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But that lack of spacing, and teams playing Duke to shoot I do think limited a bit his opportunities to drive and finish, anything on the break went to Zion or RJ, so it wasn't so much that his role was reduced as much as easy bucket opportunities were rarely there for him. No excuse for not knocking down open shots, other than maybe a lack of rhythm, but I still think there is a chance pace and touches can help that at the next level as well.

I'm sure him getting to the rim will be a bit easier in the NBA but--and I've brought this up all season--Reddish should have been the one flourishing against those pack-it-in defenses. That's what's most alarming about how poorly he shot: he had so many open, in-rhythm jumpers and he was still dreadful. It's not like he's going to get more frequent open three-point looks in the NBA since he got a ton at Duke. He actually had very good shot selection and still shot an atrocious percentage.

[ojandpizza]

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I'm sure him getting to the rim will be a bit easier in the NBA but--and I've brought this up all season--Reddish should have been the one flourishing against those pack-it-in defenses. That's what's most alarming about how poorly he shot: he had so many open, in-rhythm jumpers and he was still dreadful. It's not like he's going to get more frequent open three-point looks in the NBA since he got a ton at Duke. He actually had very good shot selection and still shot an atrocious percentage.

I agree. But I do still think it's tough to go from being the guy all the time to sharing the load, as a shooter maybe effects him most of all because the occasional spot ups, open or not, aren't the same as him touching the ball all the time like he was used to before. We'll see I guess. Even if he shoots the same 33% as a rookie that's an ok starting point, about what Luka shot this season.

Do we even know that Cam wants to be a guy that stands around and shoots 3s? He was that a lot for Duke because he was a better shooter than most guys they had, and they had guys better suited to do the other stuff.. IDK I'm not necessarily sold on him being a top 5 pick myself, but I could understand a team wanting to reach for him. And just in general in this day a guy like Andrew Wiggins is picked first, teams are picking players like these because they want to be the team that hits on the next Paul George, Kawhi, Jimmy type of player.

[ehh]

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I agree. But I do still think it's tough to go from being the guy all the time to sharing the load, as a shooter maybe effects him most of all because the occasional spot ups, open or not, aren't the same as him touching the ball all the time like he was used to before.

That was really my original point. He is role wasn't reduced because Duke was too loaded, his role was reduced because he stunk. He was sold coming out of HS as a 6'8" playmaker/PnR type and a great shooter. Basically, his game in HS/AAU/Team USA didn't work even at the DI level. He couldn't do a lot of what scouts thought he'd be able to do. So maybe it's a career-long transition now to being more of a 3 & D/attack-closeouts kinda player.

Do we even know that Cam wants to be a guy that stands around and shoots 3s?

I don't think it matters what he wants to be because the fact is that's all he is right now, and he's not even good at it. He couldn't be a ball handler/playmaker. He was a mess driving to the rim. He could shoot threes (take them, at least) and create some nice 1-2 dribble mid-range pull-ups. That was really it for him as a college player. He wasn't capable of doing more, at least not with any consistency.

[jeebs9]

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I agree. But I do still think it's tough to go from being the guy all the time to sharing the load, as a shooter maybe effects him most of all because the occasional spot ups, open or not, aren't the same as him touching the ball all the time like he was used to before. We'll see I guess. Even if he shoots the same 33% as a rookie that's an ok starting point, about what Luka shot this season.

Do we even know that Cam wants to be a guy that stands around and shoots 3s? He was that a lot for Duke because he was a better shooter than most guys they had, and they had guys better suited to do the other stuff.. IDK I'm not necessarily sold on him being a top 5 pick myself, but I could understand a team wanting to reach for him. And just in general in this day a guy like Andrew Wiggins is picked first, teams are picking players like these because they want to be the team that hits on the next Paul George, Kawhi, Jimmy type of player.

That was really my original point. He is role wasn't reduced because Duke was too loaded, his role was reduced because he stunk. He was sold coming out of HS as a 6'8" playmaker/PnR type and a great shooter. Basically, his game in HS/AAU/Team USA didn't work even at the DI level. He couldn't do a lot of what scouts thought he'd be able to do. So maybe it's a career-long transition now to being more of a 3 & D/attack-closeouts kinda player.



I don't think it matters what he wants to be because the fact is that's all he is right now, and he's not even good at it. He couldn't be a ball handler/playmaker. He was a mess driving to the rim. He could shoot threes (take them, at least) and create some nice 1-2 dribble mid-range pull-ups. That was really it for him as a college player. He wasn't capable of doing more, at least not with any consistency.

I think it's funny. I think the people that dislike Cam look at his numbers and look at the history of shooters with those numbers. And on the other hand, you have people like me. Who is holding on to his preseason stuff and some of his positive play through college and just say he didn't get his roll going.

I'm telling you. Ehh and I fought tooth and neck about this all freaking season. We basically said we will quote each other in a few years from now and make fun of each other lol. Should be fun!

[OSUFan_88]

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Is this the point where I point out that Cam Reddish was pretty bad in the AAU/EBYL circuit last year too?

Guy rubs me the wrong way. He screams volume shooter at the next level.

[3304Life]

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On god if we end up with Cam I’m dedicating my time to the Charge in the G League and never watching NBA basketball again.


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[Yeah...THAT Guy]

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On god if we end up with Cam I’m dedicating my time to the Charge in the G League and never watching NBA basketball again.


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That would be perfect because then you could watch all of his games!

[3304Life]

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That would be perfect because then you could watch all of his games!

**** I just laughed hard at this

[TMagic]

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If I was a betting man, I'd say that Cam Reddish will end up being a better player than RJ Barrett.

I'm looking forward to seeing these two in the league. And I look forward to my prophecy coming true. Lol

Just to reiterate, NY will be kicking themselves for years if they draft Barrett over Reddish if that's what ends up happening. Heard it here first! [emoji41]