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  • bigeastbumrush
    My Momma's Son
    • Feb 2003
    • 19245

    #991
    Re: 2018-19 Transaction Thread

    Originally posted by Mr B
    Even if they don’t hit big in free agency in 2020 there is nothing preventing them from holding on to their cap space for 2021. The other possibility is using the cap space in trades again. They could easily take on bad contracts if a star player is attached. They just did it yesterday so what would prevent them from pulling that off again in 2020? That is by the way how they built their championship team in 2011. Some of those bad contracts also turn out to be good fits (see Jerry Stackhouse), that’s what happen when they got to the Finals in ‘06.

    And to say that no one is going to want to come to Dallas to play with Luka and KP is very premature. Once KP gets back on the floor other player will see the potential and will likely want to join them. Especially with a player like Luka because they know he’s capable of taking the defensive pressure off of them and he will get them the ball.

    What Knicks fan should be worried about is if the can actually lure in a star player or two. There is a better chance that Kyrie goes to LAL to play with Labron and AD (once he’s traded there) than there is that he goes to the Knicks. Kawhi is more than likely headed to the Clippers and if that happens why would KD want to go to the Knicks by himself? It’s already known that the losing culture the Knicks have establish is horrible and they change direction every couple of years. KD isn’t going to want any part of that.
    Every single thing that has happened shows that KP wants to hit unrestricted free agency as soon as possible so he can control his own future.

    Yes, me saying no one wants to play with KP and Luka is premature (BTW, I'm talking about top-tier FAs) but it's also premature for you to say that once KP gets back on the floor other players will want to join when he hasn't shown that he can stay healthy.

    I think of Embiid's injury woes his first years. Difference is the Sixers are in the East. You can't coast in the West with your best player missing games.

    I think the Mavs mortgaged too much of their future hoping to strike lightning right now especially in a year where they won't make the playoffs and have no 1st rounder to show for it.

    It's very hard to pull off trades in this league without assets to attached to them.

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    • ojandpizza
      Hall Of Fame
      • Apr 2011
      • 29806

      #992
      Re: 2018-19 Transaction Thread

      Originally posted by DieHardYankee26
      Like Mark+Rick+Dirk were always in play for free agents?
      Mark is always trying to make moves, whether they ever happen or not is another discussion. But he's always working his way into the picture.

      Rick is one of the best coaches in the league and is respected with championship experience.

      Luka, as impressive as he's been, is probably the most over-hyped player in the league right now. Players migrate to media attention and they are attracted to playing with stars. Luka, and especially if they keep Porzingis, will at the very least be on players radar.

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      • Mr B
        Pro
        • Jan 2016
        • 866

        #993
        Re: 2018-19 Transaction Thread

        Originally posted by bigeastbumrush
        Every single thing that has happened shows that KP wants to hit unrestricted free agency as soon as possible so he can control his own future.



        Yes, me saying no one wants to play with KP and Luka is premature (BTW, I'm talking about top-tier FAs) but it's also premature for you to say that once KP gets back on the floor other players will want to join when he hasn't shown that he can stay healthy.



        I think of Embiid's injury woes his first years. Difference is the Sixers are in the East. You can't coast in the West with your best player missing games.



        I think the Mavs mortgaged too much of their future hoping to strike lightning right now especially in a year where they won't make the playoffs and have no 1st rounder to show for it.



        It's very hard to pull off trades in this league without assets to attached to them.


        It’s definitely a gamble for the Mavs, I’m not saying it’s not. Just like the Knicks betting that they will be able to lure in free agents the Mavs are better that KP can return to form. Considering he’s only 23 there is a very good chance that happens. The Mavs also have one of the best medical staffs in the NBA, especially when it comes to working with big men.

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        • ProfessaPackMan
          Bamma
          • Mar 2008
          • 63852

          #994
          Re: 2018-19 Transaction Thread

          Don’t know if I’d call him overhyped but I guess that’s the label guys get when they’re talked about more than should be.

          If you actually ignore the hyperbole, which is easy to do, then is he still getting “overhyped”.
          #RespectTheCulture

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          • 23
            yellow
            • Sep 2002
            • 66469

            #995
            Re: 2018-19 Transaction Thread

            All the Kyrie hoopla and he just wanted them off his back because he said he's tired of them using his name in trade rumors he has nothing to do with.

            Like i said, media stirring up trouble again

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            • areobee401
              Hall Of Fame
              • Apr 2006
              • 16771

              #996
              Re: 2018-19 Transaction Thread

              Originally posted by 23
              All the Kyrie hoopla and he just wanted them off his back because he said he's tired of them using his name in trade rumors he has nothing to do with.

              Like i said, Klutch Sports Group stirring up trouble again

              Fixed that for ya.
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              • ojandpizza
                Hall Of Fame
                • Apr 2011
                • 29806

                #997
                Re: 2018-19 Transaction Thread

                Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
                Don’t know if I’d call him overhyped but I guess that’s the label guys get when they’re talked about more than should be.

                If you actually ignore the hyperbole, which is easy to do, then is he still getting “overhyped”.
                Just feels as if he's getting superstar treatment rather than good rookie treatment.. Not all that much unlike Porzingis did honestly.

                Articles on ESPN comparing him to Harden, people legitimately mad he's not an All-Star, fans were voting him over Kevin Durant.. He's a very good player with lot's of promise, but just to try and compare it across with similar performing players guys with a similar PER (not saying that should be the way to rank player BTW) guys like Gallinari, Holiday, Bledsoe, Harris, DLo, those guys are not getting the Luka love/attention.

                You would think he had Dallas looking like a playoff team and scoring at the rate of a top 10 player in the league. And I get it, he's a rookie, it's impressive, just feels like far too many are making it out to be more than it is as of right now.

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                • roadman
                  *ll St*r
                  • Aug 2003
                  • 26339

                  #998
                  Re: 2018-19 Transaction Thread

                  I know I sound optimistic about Giannis staying for another contract for a small market team,but Middleton is keeping the fire lit.

                  “Giannis has been here his whole career...he wants to be here his whole career and I feel the same way. For us it’s not being in the right market, it’s being on the right team”

                  - #NBAAllStar Khris Middleton 🦌

                  We shall see. Maybe Mids is extending a small market discount. lol

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                  • ProfessaPackMan
                    Bamma
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 63852

                    #999
                    2018-19 Transaction Thread

                    Again, if you IGNORE THE HYPERBOLE. And I should also add to focus on the context as well.

                    The fact that you mentioned ESPN already shows you’re not because that exactly what they do, lol. They throw out hyperbole and people like you eat it up because they can’t ignore it.

                    His “overhype” is no different than any other rookie that’s come out in the last 20 years. And there’s plenty of evidence that supports that claim too.
                    #RespectTheCulture

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                    • The 24th Letter
                      ERA
                      • Oct 2007
                      • 39373

                      #1000
                      Re: 2018-19 Transaction Thread

                      Meh "I dont owe anybody ****" is a weird way to express frustration over hearing your name in rumors. Kyrie hasn't really been shy about saying exactly what he means...and I think he meant exactly what he said, even if he does re-up in Beantown.

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                      • 23
                        yellow
                        • Sep 2002
                        • 66469

                        #1001
                        Re: 2018-19 Transaction Thread

                        Originally posted by The 24th Letter
                        Meh "I dont owe anybody ****" is a weird way to express frustration over hearing your name in rumors. Kyrie hasn't really been shy about saying exactly what he means...and I think he meant exactly what he said, even if he does re-up in Beantown.
                        Yeah it would if that's the only thing he said, but posting a partial quote to make Kyrie look like something he didn't say when it was really quoted out of context.

                        They do this stuff all the time because they know most of the people on the internet don't read and just spazz off of headlines.

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                        • DieHardYankee26
                          BING BONG
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 10178

                          #1002
                          Re: 2018-19 Transaction Thread

                          Dude is already in "I'm going to do what's best for me and my family" mode. My guy is outta there. The full comments do not give much confidence.
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                          • The 24th Letter
                            ERA
                            • Oct 2007
                            • 39373

                            #1003
                            Re: 2018-19 Transaction Thread

                            Originally posted by 23
                            Yeah it would if that's the only thing he said, but posting a partial quote to make Kyrie look like something he didn't say when it was really quoted out of context.

                            They do this stuff all the time because they know most of the people on the internet don't read and just spazz off of headlines.
                            Everyone twists things into what they want, tbh

                            But even reading the whole thing...I feel he mean't exactly what he said...Those comments in October dont bind him...and he's making that clear now...even if Boston is his first choice...

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                            • 23
                              yellow
                              • Sep 2002
                              • 66469

                              #1004
                              Re: 2018-19 Transaction Thread

                              Originally posted by The 24th Letter
                              Everyone twists things into what they want, tbh

                              But even reading the whole thing...I feel he mean't exactly what he said...Those comments in October dont bind him...and he's making that clear now...even if Boston is his first choice...
                              Don't make me none but that doesn't take away the fact of what they're doing for a story right now.

                              The timing and the fact that they brought it up RIGHT NOW.

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                              • jeremym480
                                Speak it into existence
                                • Oct 2008
                                • 18198

                                #1005
                                Re: 2018-19 Transaction Thread

                                Originally posted by DieHardYankee26
                                Dude is already in "I'm going to do what's best for me and my family" mode. My guy is outta there. The full comments do not give much confidence.

                                I agree with you, normally that line is the kiss of death. However, this is Kyrie that we're talking about here so he could be pulling some next level, wizard type **** instead.

                                I mean, him backtracking on re-signing in Boston and AD saying that he would just be a rental in Boston will make Ainge's offer for AD less. And that means Boston keeps Tatum. The Memphis pick, Brown, Rozier (S&T), plus more picks is still at least in the ballpark with the L.A and NY offers. I think it could happen, right?

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