2019 Offseason Thread

[ojandpizza]

Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

Saw this on some random Pelicans page.. who says no?


What would your thoughts be on this King? I’m assuming Ball, LaVine, Porter, Kuzma, Carter Jr and this years 7th pick coming off the bench.


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[OSUFan_88]

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I'm not sure if either the Lakers or Pelicans would be happy with that trade.

[ProfessaPackMan]

2019 Offseason Thread

I’d rather have Markannen than Ball or Kuzma.

Not even sure the Bulls would be happy with that either.

[georgiafan]

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Saw this on some random Pelicans page.. who says no?


What would your thoughts be on this King? I’m assuming Ball, LaVine, Porter, Kuzma, Carter Jr and this years 7th pick coming off the bench.


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I think the Pelicans can do a lot better with another offer

[ojandpizza]

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I'm not sure if either the Lakers or Pelicans would be happy with that trade.

I'm assuming the Lakers only make this type of deal knowing they are getting a guard in free agency. Moving those contract plus the pick would get them up to around 60mil, Davis taking 25 of that would mean he, Bron, Ingram, plus money to sign Kyrie, Kemba, DLo, or some combination of lesser players. I don't think they move Lonzo, Kuz, Hart, two picks, if they aren't confident in landing a replacement guard.

Pelican's I think depends on how highly they want to replace some of what Davis does. If that's the case Lauri is the best option of any of the trade rumors IMO.. They don't get a lot back in terms of talent, Lauri and Hart is a good haul, but it's not Tatum+Brown, or all the pieces the Lakers rumored to cough up at the deadline. 3 firsts is a big haul though, and Hart/Lauri contracts clear them tons of cap room, where taking on a Hayward contract or something limits them a bit. Knicks don't have anything in terms of current talent that comes close to any of those scenarios.

I was more so worried about the Bulls interest, as they possibly give up the player with the highest ceiling and a first round pick. However having LaVine-Porter-Kuz gives them 3 20 a night type guys in their line-up, Carter+Lonzo give them defenders from the inside and outside, lots of play-making and versatility.. But still if Lauri ends up a Dirk-like player all that might not be enough. I think it really depends on if there is a guy at 7 in the draft that really intrigues them. If they are high on Culver or someone for example, and he is available, it might be a good move for them having a young core that is 6-7 players deep. I think they could be a playoff team.

[ojandpizza]

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I think the Pelicans can do a lot better with another offer

My thoughts on this was the 3 first round picks, which maybe only the one ends up being that good of a pick, but they will have so much cap room those could also be moved. Lauri can replace a decent chunk of what Davis does, similar inside-out game and can be a 20&10 guy no problem, they would have the money to get their PG that they want, keep Randle if they want, top 5 pick to add to Zio+Lauri...

To me the downside of a Tatum deal is taking on big contracts to match money. With Lauri they are taking on a 4th pick in the draft, and a solid 6th man type in Hart. They could I think, like you said, get more but it's hard to know what the offers are right now when Davis only has a few spots he might be willing to sign long term.

[georgiafan]

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My thoughts on this was the 3 first round picks, which maybe only the one ends up being that good of a pick, but they will have so much cap room those could also be moved. Lauri can replace a decent chunk of what Davis does, similar inside-out game and can be a 20&10 guy no problem, they would have the money to get their PG that they want, keep Randle if they want, top 5 pick to add to Zio+Lauri...

To me the downside of a Tatum deal is taking on big contracts to match money. With Lauri they are taking on a 4th pick in the draft, and a solid 6th man type in Hart. They could I think, like you said, get more but it's hard to know what the offers are right now when Davis only has a few spots he might be willing to sign long term.

Yea I see what your saying and now that I think about it that's probably the smart trade in the long run. I just don't think the Pelicans are smart enough to make that trade and are to stubborn. They will want to win the trade with a more big name players coming back. If they turned down the Lakers mega offer over the summer it would like a loss if they traded AD for Lauri and the 4th pick plus some change.

[Suntan Superman]

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Pretty easy no from me as the Bulls.

[georgiafan]

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Rumor the Pelicans still don't want to do business with the Lakers

https://www.masslive.com/celtics/2019/05/anthony-davis-rumors-new-orleans-pelicans-dont-want-to-do-business-with-the-lakers-report.html

[x_NBA_x]

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What is all the hype with the Lakers offer anyway? So many negatives involved. So let's say it is Ball + Ingram + Kuzma + #4.

- All three players give the impression they wouldn't resign in NO
- Ingram would have only 1 year, Ball & Kuzma on two years so small sample size before offering contracts
- Past 2 years reliability for Ball (52 games & 47 games), Ingram (59 games & 52 games)
- Cannot get RJ Barrett to make Zion feel more comfortable and happier in NO
- A line-up of Ball/Holiday?/Ingram/Zion/Center with Kuzma doesn't mesh well. Where is the spacing?
- As above, Kuzma plays PF so would mean putting Zion at SF?
- As above, the lack of a consistent perimeter shot from all three is worrying past 2 years, Attempts + %:
Ball - 5.7 attempts at 30% in 2017/18, 4.9 attempts at 33% in 2018/19
Ingram - 1.8 attempts at 39% in 2017/18, 1.8 attempts at 33% in 2018/19
Kuzma - 5.6 attempts at 36% in 2017/18, 6.0 attempts at 30% in 2018/19
- Assisting with strengthening a Western Conference rival for the future

[Majingir]

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Rumor the Pelicans still don't want to do business with the Lakers



https://www.masslive.com/celtics/201...rs-report.html

Could some team burn the Pelicans? Trade for Davis and immediately flip him to Lakers for more than they just gave up, simply because the Pelicans dont want to deal with LA.

I've only seen that happen once before, but it was funny when it did happen.

[Caveman24]

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I wished our young guys played for another team so they wouldn't get **** on so much. This exact same thing happened with Randle/DLo.

[georgiafan]

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What is all the hype with the Lakers offer anyway? So many negatives involved. So let's say it is Ball + Ingram + Kuzma + #4.

- All three players give the impression they wouldn't resign in NO
- Ingram would have only 1 year, Ball & Kuzma on two years so small sample size before offering contracts
- Past 2 years reliability for Ball (52 games & 47 games), Ingram (59 games & 52 games)
- Cannot get RJ Barrett to make Zion feel more comfortable and happier in NO
- A line-up of Ball/Holiday?/Ingram/Zion/Center with Kuzma doesn't mesh well. Where is the spacing?
- As above, Kuzma plays PF so would mean putting Zion at SF?
- As above, the lack of a consistent perimeter shot from all three is worrying past 2 years, Attempts + %:
Ball - 5.7 attempts at 30% in 2017/18, 4.9 attempts at 33% in 2018/19
Ingram - 1.8 attempts at 39% in 2017/18, 1.8 attempts at 33% in 2018/19
Kuzma - 5.6 attempts at 36% in 2017/18, 6.0 attempts at 30% in 2018/19
- Assisting with strengthening a Western Conference rival for the future

Because the other two offers might not be any better and come with just as many questions. If they are refusing to still do business with the lakers over something petty it shows that Zions time in NO is going to be just as bad as AD was. Even if you don't want to trade him to LA you cant let it out to the media where it effect the other offers.

The Boston offer hinges on what Kyrie does and it makes no sense for them to trade for AD without him coming back. You cant give up Tatum + whatever else without Irving being on the roster. Its also obvious that he doesn't want to play in Boston so why would Ainge give up Tatum and Brown ?

The Knicks can make a tempting offer since you get to play RJ with Zion. If I am NY I don't even consider this trade until its July 1st. You cant trade all the assets you have for AD and then KD decides at the last minute he wants to win another title in GSW. The only reason Knicks make this offer is if at least KD is coming July 1st. The Knicks young guys aren't proven either.

[King_B_Mack]

Re: 2019 Offseason Thread

Saw this on some random Pelicans page.. who says no?


What would your thoughts be on this King? I’m assuming Ball, LaVine, Porter, Kuzma, Carter Jr and this years 7th pick coming off the bench.


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Uhhh the Bulls would say no. How does losing Lauri and our 20/20 pick which is probably gonna be a lottery pick help us? Especially when the return is Ball, Kuzma and a bunch of second round garbage. I need Ball to be a more reliable shooter before I want any part of that dude in Chicago and his dad’s mouth would probably still keep me from wanting him because he’ll destroy what’s already a fragile locker room. Don’t need that **** here. Kuz is intriguing, but I like Lauri’s upside better if he truly pans out.


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[georgiafan]

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Could some team burn the Pelicans? Trade for Davis and immediately flip him to Lakers for more than they just gave up, simply because the Pelicans dont want to deal with LA.

I've only seen that happen once before, but it was funny when it did happen.

If its after July 1st and they still refuse to trade him to the lakers then a surprise team could enter the mix and make this happen.