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  • DamnYanks2
    Hall Of Fame
    • Jun 2007
    • 20794

    #541
    Re: Training Camp/Preseason Discussion Thread

    Originally posted by DieHardYankee26
    The idea that Tyler Herro is untouchable is absolute insanity to me but we will see.
    That's not what I meant. Obviously Harden is better then Herro. But is he a fit on Miami. Absolutely not. Why mess with something when it's not broke? Miami is fresh off a Finals appearance. So why trade for a guy that can't make it to a Finals.

    Miami is right with what they need. Herro and Bam should be even better. There's no reason to pursue Harden. He's not a winner.

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    • DamnYanks2
      Hall Of Fame
      • Jun 2007
      • 20794

      #542
      Re: Training Camp/Preseason Discussion Thread

      To add to this. Herro is good. And he's gonna get better. He's not just a shooter. He's gotta nice little drive game. He's becoming a good passer. And the handles are improving. Can create his own shot at will.

      Herro has a high ceiling. Kid has a really nice feel for the game and has absolutely no fear.

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      • ProfessaPackMan
        Bamma
        • Mar 2008
        • 63852

        #543
        Re: Training Camp/Preseason Discussion Thread

        Oh lord, we’ve brought Tebowisms over to the NBA

        “He’s not a winner”, lol.
        #RespectTheCulture

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        • illwill10
          Hall Of Fame
          • Mar 2009
          • 19827

          #544
          Re: Training Camp/Preseason Discussion Thread

          Originally posted by bigeastbumrush
          I think Ben’s lack of scoring had more to do with the coaching than him. They were trying to feature Embiid. Ben thrives in an uptempo system where he can get to the rim and/or create.

          When has Ben ever been the first option on that team?
          To answer your question, never. But, it was obvious that there were two different teams when Joel was out. Ben prefers the up-tempo system and Joel prefers the half court slower pace. I get that Joel shoots those threes because he doesn't want to post up all the time. But, I'm going to need him to cut that down to 2-4 threes a game at most and only when it makes sense. But, Ben does turn on the switch when Joel is off the court. Even in the preseason game when Joel was off the court, Ben and Tobias kicked it up a notch.

          I'm not as concerned with the jump shot. I just want him to be more aggressive. He plays knowing his weaknesses rather than playing to his strengths. For his career, he only averages 5 FT attempts a game. I want him to get to 8-10 FT attempts a game.

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          • DamnYanks2
            Hall Of Fame
            • Jun 2007
            • 20794

            #545
            Re: Training Camp/Preseason Discussion Thread

            Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
            Oh lord, we’ve brought Tebowisms over to the NBA

            “He’s not a winner”, lol.
            He's not a winner. He's one of the best scorers you'll ever see and dominant during the regular season. But he's not leading a team to a title. We've seen time and time again Harden fall apart in the playoffs. If the stepback isn't falling and the fouls aren't getting called. He becomes guardable. Houston is now realizing this.

            Herro isn't leading a team to a title either. But that team as a cohesive unit just might. They took Bron and the Lakers to the brink without Dragic and Bam a few games. So why mess with that. Makes no sense.





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            • DieHardYankee26
              BING BONG
              • Feb 2008
              • 10178

              #546
              Re: Training Camp/Preseason Discussion Thread

              I just feel like the "winner" thing is what people bring up when guys they don't like haven't won yet. They used to say it about Dirk, LeBron, Kyle Lowry, now it's Harden and PG. Is Giannis not a winner either? Meanwhile if the Clippers win next year and PG goes A-Rod in 09 does that erase the title and redeem all of his fails? It's nonsense.

              I think it was in the Wilt Thinking Basketball video where he was talking about how Wilt only played a team-oriented game for a certain coach and that's the one he won his titles with. If the Heat culture means anything, this is what it's supposed to be for IMO...but I also don't like the Heat and don't seem to have anywhere near as much belief in their current core as others so I hope they stay the course and don't make the trade.
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              • bigeastbumrush
                My Momma's Son
                • Feb 2003
                • 19245

                #547
                Re: Training Camp/Preseason Discussion Thread

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                • ProfessaPackMan
                  Bamma
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 63852

                  #548
                  Re: Training Camp/Preseason Discussion Thread

                  Apparently he’s done that everywhere and was something his late Mother used to do and was a Sioux Nation tradition.
                  #RespectTheCulture

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                  • jeebs9
                    Fear is the Unknown
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 47568

                    #549
                    Re: Training Camp/Preseason Discussion Thread

                    Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
                    Apparently he’s done that everywhere and was something his late Mother used to do and was a Sioux Nation tradition.
                    Just to add (if no one knows). His mother isn't with us anymore.
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                    • TheShizNo1
                      Asst 2 the Comm Manager
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 26341

                      #550
                      Re: Training Camp/Preseason Discussion Thread

                      Originally posted by bigeastbumrush
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                      • georgiafan
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                        • Jul 2002
                        • 11117

                        #551
                        Training Camp/Preseason Discussion Thread

                        Ben Simmons just took a 3 it missed but was a confident shoot


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                        • ojandpizza
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Apr 2011
                          • 29807

                          #552
                          Re: Training Camp/Preseason Discussion Thread

                          Originally posted by jeebs9
                          Just to add (if no one knows). His mother isn't with us anymore.

                          I think that’s what Pack meant by late mother Jeebs [emoji23]


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                          • Master Live 013
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Oct 2013
                            • 12422

                            #553
                            Re: Training Camp/Preseason Discussion Thread

                            Originally posted by georgiafan
                            Ben Simmons just took a 3 it missed but was a confident shoot


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                            • areobee401
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Apr 2006
                              • 16771

                              #554
                              Re: Training Camp/Preseason Discussion Thread

                              Funny seeing all the Celtics fan who defended Kyrie at every turn during his stay in Boston now wait in line to dump all over the guy any chance they get.


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                              • illwill10
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Mar 2009
                                • 19827

                                #555
                                Re: Training Camp/Preseason Discussion Thread

                                Didn't see too much of a hesitation on that Ben Simmons 3 lol

                                Started ok, but overall sloppy half. Last couple years turnovers have been an issue for the Sixers. 15 first half turnovers isn't good. Not having Embiid definitely showed some half court weaknesses. Started off upper tempo, but got sloppy in the second half. Like what I'm seeing from Maxey though

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