2020 Offseason Thread

[ehh]

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I’d like to have be able to have some kinda clean slate with the new FO/development coaches, but then it’s like when is the last time we drafted a project, not even that panned out, but that by the time they were scheduled to pan out, the guys who drafted them were still here? Hard to imagine anyone who needs consistent work getting it in that environment.
People seem to be pretty high on Vassell from what I’ve seen. We basically can’t afford to draft someone who can’t shoot at this point, RJ, Mitch, and Randle guaranteed to be out there for 30+. Are there any PGs that can shoot out there that aren’t going to cost us whatever it seems like FVV is going to?

Right, Okoro would somehow be the worst shooter we've drafted in the last four years and we've drafted Frank, RJ, and Knox. It's a risk I don't want to take. He could turn into Kawhi for another team but I don't think it'd happen here. Same with Michael Porter Jr, he'd probably be out of the league already if we drafted him and then botched his rehab.

I like Vassell and I'd take him at #8. A lot of our fanbase likes Kira Lewis but he seems like he has a high bust potential to me but I see the appeal.

The PG FA market is weak. Dragic is there but there's no way he's going to a rebuilding situation at this point in his career. It wouldn't surprise me if he stayed in MIA on a team-friendly deal.

Y’all are kinda ****ed in this draft. I’d vote trading back if it landed you someone who’s already shown to be productive.

NBC’s mock has Ball dropping to y’all, but I don’t see that. I’m not high on him anyways but this draft is so bad as far as sure things, or star potential, IMO.

Or package Randle to move up, I’m assuming he’s not part of the long term plans. But again I don’t see a slam dunk here worth doing that. Trading back with a team like Boston or New Orleans might be a solid move. Pick 8 to New Orleans for pick 13 and Josh Hart, pick 8 to Boston for pick 14 and 26, 8 and Randle to Orlando for Gordon and 15, idk but it feels like anybody that might benefit New York at 8 has a similar guy later in the draft.

This is the worst draft in a while when it comes to star power. There isn't a single prospect I really like. Once you get past the top guys it's a mess. Seems like guys 5-20 or so are all pretty similar. I don't really see anyone itching to move up but maybe some team find a guy they love.

[jfsolo]

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All the above average and better shooters are getting paid. Unless one of them just really wants to be on the Lakers we are not going to be able to afford any of their price tags.

[cima]

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Dino is shooting his shot!

https://twitter.com/gallinari8888/status/1315607416185196544?s=20

[ProfessaPackMan]

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He mentioned a few days ago that he’s at a point in his career where he’s good on money and is ready to play for a team with a serious shot.

Guess that means a few teams will be after him.

[georgiafan]

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Dino is shooting his shot!

https://twitter.com/gallinari8888/st...185196544?s=20

So LA can offer him what around 8-10 per year ? I don't see him making more then 15 per year and even then it will have to be from a bad team and likely a short term deal. The one exception being Miami and they seem to have higher priorities signing a few people back. He would be a great fit for LA and it would allow Kuzma to be moved in another trade.

[cima]

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He mentioned a few days ago that he’s at a point in his career where he’s good on money and is ready to play for a team with a serious shot.

Guess that means a few teams will be after him.

40.5% on 7 3's attempted/game. Yes please, adios Kuzma!

[ojandpizza]

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I think it's a great fit to both sides, and a move that keeps the Lakers in contention next year as all these other teams are back/better. Like I mentioned before, teams can offer MLE up to 4 year contracts so they can still guarantee him a good chunk of money spread over 3-4 years as injury insurance and all that even if someone can offer him a bigger chunk for 1 year next year.

I'm sure he's still the type of guys who could get 17-18 for a year, but you always run a risk of it being your last good deal at some point as you age, 24 over 3 years would be good for him as well if he's getting to compete for rings while doing it.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Kinda want to see someone like Gallo in SA or even Philly, if they can get it done.

[ojandpizza]

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Kinda want to see someone like Gallo in SA or even Philly, if they can get it done.

I feel like SA would still be a big piece away, Philly would be interesting for sure and he's along the lines of what they need. They would have to make some sort of move to dump salary or a sign and trade or something. They do have the tax-payer MLE that's around 5mil though so maybe he would take that.

[cima]

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I think it's a great fit to both sides, and a move that keeps the Lakers in contention next year as all these other teams are back/better. Like I mentioned before, teams can offer MLE up to 4 year contracts so they can still guarantee him a good chunk of money spread over 3-4 years as injury insurance and all that even if someone can offer him a bigger chunk for 1 year next year.

I'm sure he's still the type of guys who could get 17-18 for a year, but you always run a risk of it being your last good deal at some point as you age, 24 over 3 years would be good for him as well if he's getting to compete for rings while doing it.

I'm just wondering what the Lakers long-term plans are. Right now they have nobody under contract after this upcoming season other than LeBron's PO. It's been a foregone conclusion AD opts out and re-signs this year but what about guys like KCP? He could opt-out and get paid more but would he do a 1 year deal with LA? Does Pelinka only want AD under contract (and Bron's PO)?

[ojandpizza]

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I'm just wondering what the Lakers long-term plans are. Right now they have nobody under contract after this upcoming season other than LeBron's PO. It's been a foregone conclusion AD opts out and re-signs this year but what about guys like KCP? He could opt-out and get paid more but would he do a 1 year deal with LA? Does Pelinka only want AD under contract (and Bron's PO)?

I don’t THINK the MLE effects that money. But I’m not sure. Also they will still have Kuz under contract as well I believe.


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[georgiafan]

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If LA can make a trade to improve the team next year you have to do that even if it means taking on long term $. The front office I'm sure is smart enough to know the supporting cast has to improve if they want to win back to back. It was just barely good enough this year and the the West will be tougher and who knows about potential injuries. I just don't think you can not make any moves that improve the team just so you might sign someone next summer.

He is due a lot of long term $, but I wonder if they will call about Buddy Hield ? He would come at a cheap price and would give them a legit 3 point threat. If he plays well then moving his contract would be easier. They might dump him for Green and Kuzma.

[cima]

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I don’t THINK the MLE effects that money. But I’m not sure. Also they will still have Kuz under contract as well I believe.


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He's not

https://www.basketball-reference.com/contracts/LAL.html

[ojandpizza]

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He's not

https://www.basketball-reference.com/contracts/LAL.html

Technically he’s not, but he will be a restricted free agent with bird rights. So unless they renounce his rights to get rid of his cap hold it will count against the cap, even though it’s a rarely small amount. Lakers will almost surely bring him back/match offer because his cap hold won’t keep them from filling out the rest of the roster and then paying him whatever he demands even if it means going over the cap because of his bird rights.


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[ojandpizza]

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Also I guess Davis was quoted as saying “we’re going to run it back” in his, or someone’s, IG live so I’m assuming he’s returning. Not like there was much doubt. Question now is he accepting his player option, opting out for a 1+1, opting out for a longer term deal.

If I’m Davis I’m going 1+1 until LeBron finally regresses enough that just those 2 and middle of the road cast can’t get it done. They have his bird rights, and as a max level player it’s not going to matter in terms of how money his effects the salary cap going forward. Whether he signs a 1 year deal, or 3 they will be in the same situation come free agency this year, and the end of next year. Maybe see if they are able to really improve the roster after the 2021 season or not.


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