2020 Offseason Thread

[King_B_Mack]

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So Bleacher Report did an article on 5 NBA trades that would change everything. What do the OS basketball minds think of their proposed trades?

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[Fresh Tendrils]

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I don't want to see Beal leave DC, but he would certainly give a playoff team a big edge.

[cima]

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In what world can BK afford KD, Kyrie, Holiday, and Gordon? Is the rest of their team vet minimums?

[ojandpizza]

2020 Offseason Thread

So Bleacher Report did an article on 5 NBA trades that would change everything. What do the OS basketball minds think of their proposed trades?

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1.) I actually really like this first trade. Washington seems to be dead set on keeping Wall and Beal but I just don’t see the point in not entertaining deals for them. I don’t know what makes them believe that duo is advancing much further than they have already without significant upgrades to the rest of the roster. If Porter makes a scoring jump that he seems capable of I think that move almost immediately makes them better, especially if Rui looks like a great piece for them and they pay to keep Bertans.

It’s a bigger risk for Denver, but if Grant commits to staying and they bring in some vets they would have infinite fire power offensively, especially with Barton back. If Bol develops as well, sky is the limit.

2.) I don’t understand the want/need for Westbrook to be in New York but they aren’t losing enough here to really matter. Perhaps he could land the want for stars to consider coming back to NY, so it’s worth it for them so long as they don’t lose picks.

Harden to Philly could be good, but it feels like it could be a mess too. Philly would have the talent and assets to get more complimentary players though.

Huge move for Houston, I think it’s time for them to move on and both Ben and Randle seem like they have been ready to take that next step but just haven’t fit the right role. I still personally believe Simmons can be an MVP caliber player.

I feel like this move shakes things up, but doesn’t really move the needle in a huge way for any team. Houston risks becoming good enough to not get better with high picks but bad enough that they can’t contend. They would need another scoring threat, and still lack a big man.

3.) This is an absolutely horrible trade for Orlando. LeVert is a good player but he’s not going to make Orlando a better team if they are having to lose a guy like Gordon to get him. This doesn’t move the needle for them at all, and doesn’t give the type of assets back like quality picks, young high potential guys, to improve them longer term. If anything moving out other guys but keeping the guy who can be a great defender, score the ball, and rebound like Gordon and building around him makes more sense than this.

Decent for New Orleans, I don’t think Dinwiddie is an upgrade over Jrue, and not sure Allen is a great fit next to Zion but I love his game. Prince is too redundant on this roster, and the pick isn’t enough to make this worth it when I think other teams would give them more for Jrue.

Nets it’s an obvious win, but this feels like it was purely a “how can we stack the Nets” idea rather than what makes sense for all 3 teams. Also not really sold on Kyrie sharing the ball with Jrue in the way that it would allow Jrue to be the player he could/should be.

4.) I think the trade works for both sides but seems pointless. I don’t see how Milwaukee gets much better. Oladipo doesn’t move the needle in the direction they need it to offensively unless the Bucks plan on playing Giannis off of him as the screener. Their upgrade over Bledsoe needs to be playmaking, shooting, off ball play.

Indiana already has Brogdon running the point for them, they want to add Bledsoe and DiVincenzo both for what reason exactly? Would make a lot more sense from their side if Bledsoe was going to a third team for a piece that fit a need for them.

5.) I think it’s a good move for Orlando because the number 2 pick is the type of haul they need if they are making a trade this off-season. Wiggins and Looney are both solid pieces to go with what they have and future picks as well, and Wiggins seems better built for this than with GS.

I don’t quite get the Vucevic to GS hype. He would fit as a shooter, passer out of the high post, but it seems like a defensive minded guy or maybe a great rim runner would be more along the lines of what fits their team the best. He’s not a defender like Bogut was and a similar strengthed David Lee was basically booted out of their line up. I feel like losing the 2nd pick for him wouldn’t be worth it, even with getting back the 15th pick because this years draft is trash. However if they could swing this trade without exchanging picks, or maybe for 2-3 future firsts rather than number 2 it makes sense. If I’m giving up the number 2 pick I’m demanding Gordon in the return as well.

Number 2 pick, Wiggins, Looney, Poole, Minnesota’s pick, and another first for Vuc, Gordon, Ross, maybe 15 pick still.. that’s what I would command if I’m Golden State, Orlando would never get another number 2 pick + a young 20-25 a night scorer to start a rebuild.


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[ProfessaPackMan]

2020 Offseason Thread

HATE, HATE, HATE the Wizards deal

Holiday deal, I don’t hate since it gives the Nets a good perimeter defender that they currently don’t have and he’s a good off ball player too. I can’t say whether or not he’ll fit next to Kyrie because it’ll depend on what type of style we play, which nobody knows at this point.

Don’t like giving up Allen though. I think Gordon is ok but I’m not crazy about his ceiling as a player so meh.

And OJ, aren’t most Armchair Trade proposals always about stacking the best team as opposed to what makes sense for each team? [emoji848]

[jfsolo]

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I hate that deal for Indiana, despite Oladipo not being what he once was, they need at least a potential All-Star player in return IMO. They tread water at best or most likely regress with that move.

Can you play Simmons and Randle together?(That is a rhetorical question, the answer is no) They have to get another floor spacer instead of Randle. Harden and Embiid, could work, could totally implode. One of your superstars should be committed to playing defense all the time. I would root even harder against Philly than I do now.

Are Holiday and Gordon ready to become KCP and Kuzma? I don't think that they are there yet so I'm not sure that they would fit will with the Nets.

I have no idea how GS would fare with that move so that makes it very intriguing, I like the rebuilding pieces for Orlando as well. If they did the LeVert deal also then they would be super interesting to see in 2 years.

I'm not sure that Thibodeau could deal with Westbrook going rogue every other possession. He might resign after the first quarter of the first game of the season.

For the Wizards, Porter has to break out and become a superstar or the whole deal is a failure. If Denver could keep Grant after making this deal, then I legit might consider them the favorite to win the title.

[cima]

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Danny Green, Kyle Kuzma, 1st round pick is quickly becoming the new Thompson, Shumpert, and Nets 1st round pick. If you know, you know.

[ojandpizza]

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And OJ, aren’t most Armchair Trade proposals always about stacking the best team as opposed to what makes sense for each team? [emoji848]

Well that depends, in this particular example posted most of the other suggestions are benefitting all sides fairly equally. This is the only proposed move where two teams lose so one team can win.

[DieHardYankee26]

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Russ doesn’t make a lot of sense for us roster wise, but like OJ said if all we had to do was give up Randle, Ellington, and DSJ it’s not a big loss. That said, spacing is our biggest problem so if we had to take on a big money deal I’d rather take the 2 years of CP3 than 3 of Russ.

[cima]

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Russ doesn’t make a lot of sense for us roster wise, but like OJ said if all we had to do was give up Randle, Ellington, and DSJ it’s not a big loss. That said, spacing is our biggest problem so if we had to take on a big money deal I’d rather take the 2 years of CP3 than 3 of Russ.

I assume they'd want Russ to maybe put more butts in seats (assuming there will be fans)?

[DieHardYankee26]

2020 Offseason Thread

That’s not normally an issue for us, but having him would definitely turn the electricity in the building up a couple of notches.

And to be clear, as against this as I am, if this happens I’m getting a Russ jersey the instant we confirm the number.

[cima]

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I wonder what the market out there for DeMar DeRozan is? Can't imagine many are chopping at the bit to pay big money to a guy that doesn't shoot 3's. But who knows, he's still a talented player.

Edit: List I was looking at didn't note he has a PO. I'm guessing he opts-in.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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The Garden will have fans regardless of Russell being there, y’all ain’t been paying attention? Lol

Russ joining the Knicks would be like Austin shaking Vince’s hand at WM17 for me.

[cima]

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The Garden will have fans regardless of Russell being there, y’all ain’t been paying attention? Lol

Russ joining the Knicks would be like Austin shaking Vince’s hand at WM17 for me.

I just meant more $. Price of admission should go up if Russ is on the team.

[georgiafan]

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I wonder what the market out there for DeMar DeRozan is? Can't imagine many are chopping at the bit to pay big money to a guy that doesn't shoot 3's. But who knows, he's still a talented player.

Edit: List I was looking at didn't note he has a PO. I'm guessing he opts-in.

Yea I assume he will opt in and if I'm SA I am looking to trade him. They wouldn't have a issue trading him since it would be a 1 year rental. Even if the return is just the lakers package.