2020 Offseason Thread

[ojandpizza]

Re: 2020 Offseason Thread

I 100% agree with you I don't get what the Pelicans are doing it reminds me of some NBA 2K YouTube rebuilds not paying attention to the details. Every decision they make should be how does this person fit with Zion. It seems like the are just collection assets without a plan.

For months I heard how Jrue had to be traded because it made no sense to pay a 30 year old with their young core. The best player they get back in return is the same age as him and your paying him longer and at a high price. He also plays the same position as Ball so I'm not sure how those two fit together. Bledsoe is a fine player he isn't moving the needle in anyway and is a downgrade from what you had. Those bucks pick aren't going to be in the lottery.

They also have to decide really soon what they have in Ball. Because your either going to have to trade him or pay him 15 million per year. I assume they will just pay Ingram the max this offseason.

Yea It sounds good on twitter they got 6 1st round picks and the swaps. However unless something crazy happens those picks from LA and Milwaukee will be in the 20's. It seems like they are trying to straddle the fence between collecting assets and wining now.

I really don't believe they will keep Bledsoe and Hill past the trade deadline. They only have them because they had to match money to take back those picks.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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It's not really that simple. Ainge wasn't going to make a finals with not trading those guys either, just like the Pelicans weren't going to with having AD. OKC wasn't going to win a championship with Paul George, etc.

The Boston trade specifically has too many moving parts to track it all at this point but just off the top of my head at one point it lead to them having Tatum, Brown, and Kyrie. They didn't win a ring but many people thought they could have, and that's a better position than 90% of the league.

If Boston at any point wins a title win Tatum on the roster that trade was a good trade for them. Regardless of how many years it takes them to get to the finals.

It would be funny/ironic that 7 years after that trade if the Nets end up winning a championship before Boston.

[jfsolo]

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I shut down social media early for one evening miss the all the goodness. Bucks all in for 20-21, can't blame them. Small markets have to operate by different rules than the large markets.

Barring something like a trade of CJ, Covington will be the 4th option on offense, but he will have to be the team leader on defense. He's got his work cut out for him.

With the compensation that these role players have commanded, I don't know how it won't seem like Houston is going to get fleeced in any Harden deal unless Ben Simmons is part of what comes back.

[cima]

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Here's an ESPN proposed trade from one of their paywall articles:

Pistons receive: #2 pick, Andrew Wiggins, Kevon Looney

Warriors receive: #7 pick, Blake Griffin

This would actually be a sick move for the Warriors and could arguably make them the favorites over the Lakers and Clippers out West.

[georgiafan]

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@BobbyMarks42

Here is the pick breakdown on the Jrue Holiday trade:

New Orleans receives

2020 1st (via IND)
2024 right to swap
2025 1st unprotected
2026 right to swap
2027 1st unprotected

[cima]

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Never thought of it this way, but this is funny because it's accurate:

https://twitter.com/gwiss/status/1328722894558547969?s=20

[jfsolo]

Re: 2020 Offseason Thread

Here's an ESPN proposed trade from one of their paywall articles:

Pistons receive: #2 pick, Andrew Wiggins, Kevon Looney

Warriors receive: #7 pick, Blake Griffin

This would actually be a sick move for the Warriors and could arguably make them the favorites over the Lakers and Clippers out West.

If I'm the Pistons I want more for taking Wiggins.

[georgiafan]

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Is that the same article that had Atlanta committing robbery on the Celtics trade for Smart and all three 1st ?

The blake contract is shorter so that part makes sense

Here's an ESPN proposed trade from one of their paywall

articles:

Pistons receive: #2 pick, Andrew Wiggins, Kevon Looney

Warriors receive: #7 pick, Blake Griffin

This would actually be a sick move for the Warriors and could arguably make them the favorites over the Lakers and Clippers out West.

[cima]

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If I'm the Pistons I want more for taking Wiggins.

Well it was rumored they wanted to move up to get LaMelo Ball last I read (which was a week ago) so maybe this is enough. It's Detroit, they don't attract big FAs so Wiggins and LaMelo might not be bad for them for the next few years.

[cima]

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Is that the same article that had Atlanta committing robbery on the Celtics trade for Smart and all three 1st ?

The blake contract is shorter so that part makes sense

Yep same article.

[ProfessaPackMan]

Re: 2020 Offseason Thread

Here's an ESPN proposed trade from one of their paywall articles:

Pistons receive: #2 pick, Andrew Wiggins, Kevon Looney

Warriors receive: #7 pick, Blake Griffin

This would actually be a sick move for the Warriors and could arguably make them the favorites over the Lakers and Clippers out West.

So Blake at the 5 in this scenario?

What’s their reasoning for this trade?

[Yeah...THAT Guy]

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Bucks getting #42 and #60 picks in this year's draft from New Orleans as well. That's actually huge because it theoretically allows them:

1. To replace some of their depth
2. Theoretically could spend around $8 mil of the MLE on free agents or even the full thing + some BAE money if their application to get out of Jon Leuer's contract is approved.

[cima]

2020 Offseason Thread

So Blake at the 5 in this scenario?

What’s their reasoning for this trade?

Trade down since there's no clear pick at the top and gives them another bona fide star to compete this year? Griffin > Wiggins all day. Steph, Klay, Draymond, Blake ain't nothing to sneeze at, that's a squad. Plus there's rumors they're heavily targeting Avery Bradley and Dwight Howard. Damion Lee Marques Chriss and Eric Paschall are good enough to crack their rotation. Find a backup PG and that's a legit team IMO.


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[roadman]

Re: 2020 Offseason Thread

Bucks getting #42 and #60 picks in this year's draft from New Orleans as well. That's actually huge because it theoretically allows them:

1. To replace some of their depth
2. Theoretically could spend around $8 mil of the MLE on free agents or even the full thing + some BAE money if their application to get out of Jon Leuer's contract is approved.

Bucks seem to do better second round vs first round, except for Giannis.

[ojandpizza]

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I don't really understand how AB can decline his player option and get more money from GS.. They are over the cap, they don't have the MLE, the tax payer MLE that they do have is basically the same amount of money he was getting from LAL and they would have to give all of it to him rather than split it, so he's not getting more money from them. That would leave them with room for only minimum deals so not shot at better free agents... Doesn't make sense.

If it's the matter of he just wants to leave and play for Golden State the best option for all parties would be accepting the player option and the Lakers trading him to Golden State for their second round picks, or one of them. Lakers get something back in return, and Golden State can absorb the trade with their trade exception from Iguodala and still have the tax payer MLE to use on another player instead of only minimum roster slots.