2020 Offseason Thread

[jeremym480]

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So what trades are about to happen? [emoji897]


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Everyone is waiting on Hayward to finish playing his League of Legends game and let them know what he decided... After that, the rest of the NBA trades can commence.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Shams reporting that the Wizards and Rockets discussed a deal around a Westbrook and Wall swap but Rockets are seeking more assets.

[bigeastbumrush]

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The Jrue trade makes a bit more sense now...Celtics reportedly offered Hayward and all 3 first round picks in this year's draft for Jrue.

No it doesn’t. Sorry.

This isn’t a deep draft at all.

If that rumor is real (I don’t think it is), then the Bucks front office are a bunch of dopes.

[Yeah...THAT Guy]

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No it doesn’t. Sorry.

This isn’t a deep draft at all.

If that rumor is real (I don’t think it is), then the Bucks front office are a bunch of dopes.

I think the opposite. I think this draft is very deep. I don't blame New Orleans for gambling on the potential Bucks collapse but there's a decent chance the Celtics picks turn out better than whatever those future picks look like. Of course that's easy for me to say now when we have no idea what the Bucks might look like 5 years from now nor do we know anything about what those draft classes might look like.

[jeebs9]

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This ain't a deep FA class either lol

[dubcity]

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People who know whether this will turn out to be a deep draft class or not need to give me some lottery numbers while they are at it.

[bigeastbumrush]

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People who know whether this will turn out to be a deep draft class or not need to give me some lottery numbers while they are at it.

Where exactly is the depth? Certainly not PGs or bigs. Shooters? No.

If you want a 3&D guy, this is your draft.

There is no consensus #1. No Final Four breakout star. No elite overseas player. The top PG played 12 pro games. The top big left school.

I bet we approach a record number of teams trading down and into next year’s class.

[ojandpizza]

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I don't really understand how AB can decline his player option and get more money from GS.. They are over the cap, they don't have the MLE, the tax payer MLE that they do have is basically the same amount of money he was getting from LAL and they would have to give all of it to him rather than split it, so he's not getting more money from them. That would leave them with room for only minimum deals so not shot at better free agents... Doesn't make sense.

If it's the matter of he just wants to leave and play for Golden State the best option for all parties would be accepting the player option and the Lakers trading him to Golden State for their second round picks, or one of them. Lakers get something back in return, and Golden State can absorb the trade with their trade exception from Iguodala and still have the tax payer MLE to use on another player instead of only minimum roster slots.

Same logic here applies to the Rondo headed to the Clippers "rumors". Unless he's just really wanting to play for the Clippers the Lakers can seemingly give him the same amount of money. They likely won't match the Hawks offer, but rumor is Rondo might want to head to the Clippers who only have the MLE if they don't resign some guys, and only the tax payer MLE if they are bringing back Harrell, Green, Morris.. Harrell alone is going to get them close. Even then the Clippers would need to give Rondo most of their full MLE to possibly pay him more than the Lakers are willing to, and tax payer MLE likely doesn't cut it. Either option means Rondo is the only non-minimum contract player the Clippers sign, I don't see them going all in for Rondo.

Of course it's possible the "wants to play for the Clippers" rumor is just bait to convince the Lakers to pay a bit more, but it's hard to see him just wanting to switch LA teams being so close to AD... I always assumed he would get paid, or return to Boston.

[ojandpizza]

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This draft might very well end up being a deep quality draft, but the level of certainty and polished "sure thing" level players just isn't there.

[georgiafan]

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Well looks like I could be right and Hayward could be coming to Atlanta. This makes a ton of sense as long as the core 6 guys aren’t involved and something like 6 and dedmom for 14 and 26 with him.

[jeebs9]

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Well looks like I could be right and Hayward could be coming to Atlanta. This makes a ton of sense as long as the core 6 guys aren’t involved and something like 6 and dedmom for 14 and 26 with him.

Reddish?.....

[Yeah...THAT Guy]

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Where exactly is the depth? Certainly not PGs or bigs. Shooters? No.

If you want a 3&D guy, this is your draft.

There is no consensus #1. No Final Four breakout star. No elite overseas player. The top PG played 12 pro games. The top big left school.

I bet we approach a record number of teams trading down and into next year’s class.

I would say it’s very deep on PGs and bigs so I guess we will simply need to agree to disagree lol


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[georgiafan]

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Reddish?.....

Trae, Collins, Capella the 3 established guys then the 3 young wings that have all showed flashes Reddish, Huerter and Hunter.

If we can get Hayward that’s cool I just want those 6 guys on the roster next year. Since Boston can give us 14 back.

[Yeah...THAT Guy]

2020 Offseason Thread

Well looks like I could be right and Hayward could be coming to Atlanta. This makes a ton of sense as long as the core 6 guys aren’t involved and something like 6 and dedmom for 14 and 26 with him.

Why exactly does Atlanta need to give up #6 for a guy they can just take care of in free agency anyways? Seems like Hayward is only willing to opt in if he’s traded so the ball is basically in he and Atlanta’s court. If that’s where he wants to go and Atlanta wants him, they can just sign him outright or do and sign and trade and give Boston a trade exception and call it a day. Seems ludicrous to trade #6 to me

Edit: Also, this makes me think that Hayward is looking to push his deadline back because he has a different team in mind that can’t simply sign him.


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[georgiafan]

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Why exactly does Atlanta need to give up #6 for a guy they can just take care of in free agency anyways? Seems like Hayward is only willing to opt in if he’s traded so the ball is basically in he and Atlanta’s court. If that’s where he wants to go and Atlanta wants him, they can just sign him outright or do and sign and trade and give Boston a trade exception and call it a day. Seems ludicrous to trade #6 to me


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You are correct Atlanta doesn’t need to trade for him we could send word to his agent and just sign him. We have 43 million in cap space. I’ve said the same thing when the Derozan stuff was coming out.

Boston could want Dedmon and maybe we want to get off his salary so that’s one reason to trade for him. If he opts in then we don’t have to give him a longer term deal so that saves max cap space for next year.

Edit - Boston could also gain a a trade exception