NBA Draft 2021

[DieHardYankee26]

NBA Draft 2021

Works on mobile but this site and pictures smh…These jokes don’t hit when the team they’re coming from hasn’t won anything. I dunno, it’s the Yankees fan in me, we just have different mentalities I guess. We live in Ricky Bobby world, and you’re in last place just like us [emoji23].

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With that said, given their need at C, who might be the best C they could realistically get for the 4th pick?

Your only hope is that Mobley falls to #4, which is unlikely. I wouldn't take any other big men in the Top 10.

You should wind up with whichever Jalen is left, which is pretty darn good. Since TOR is in a bit of a transition period it makes sense to take BPA.

[Yeah...THAT Guy]

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Your only hope is that Mobley falls to #4, which is unlikely. I wouldn't take any other big men in the Top 10.

You should wind up with whichever Jalen is left, which is pretty darn good. Since TOR is in a bit of a transition period it makes sense to take BPA.

I think he was probably referring to trading the pick for a C but I could be mistaken. At any rate, I'd agree with you on just taking one of the main 4 or 5 guys. I do think I'd be fine taking Sengun in the top 10 but I wouldn't do it at #4.

[jeebs9]

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He's got a lot of advanced things in his game

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUVt_e675IA

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I think he was probably referring to trading the pick for a C but I could be mistaken. At any rate, I'd agree with you on just taking one of the main 4 or 5 guys. I do think I'd be fine taking Sengun in the top 10 but I wouldn't do it at #4.

Ah, yes indeed.

[bigeastbumrush]

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Trae Mann for the Knicks at 19. One of the best shot creators in the class and that’s exactly what we need.

*pounds table*

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HOU has an interesting decision at #2. I'm sure Mobley and Wood can co-exist, but given that it's a perimeter player's league I'm probably going with either Jalen at #2.

It's never great to draft for fit at #2 coming off the worst record in the league, but I've been leaning towards Mobley at #4 for a while.

[ojandpizza]

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I'm still not just all in on Cade being a sure fire number 1 overall pick... But for Detroit it makes the most sense. He can realistically be slotted anywhere 1-3 most likely, meaning that regardless of position a trio of Hayes, Cade, Bey will likely fit together nicely. Could be an Atlanta Hawks type of potential with their young guys. If they keep Grant he fits well with that mix too, stretch 4 who defends the other teams best 3/4 guy.

Most mocks now have Houston taking Mobley... I think that makes sense if they want Wood playing the 4 spot for them, but if they view him as a center that's basically the one thing they don't need. They are also at a weird spot with Wall on the roster and not knowing what to expect out of him.

I feel like Toronto should be hoping Mobley falls to them, if not I don't really get the Suggs pick unless they want to keep the FVV playing lots of SG strategy.

Bouknight wouldn't be awful for Golden State if they don't trade that pick, I think Moody would be really sold for them as well just because I'm not sold on him being an NBA shooting guard. He could play that Duncan Robinson role for a team like Golden State, even play that Draymond, Oubre, undersized 4 spot when needed.

Davion Mitchell and Franz Wagner both scare me as top 10 picks. I keep seeing them that high in some mocks. I like both their games but the bust potential feels really high to me as well.

Grizzlies need shooting in the worst way, but I really hope Ziaire Williams is available for them at 17. I feel like his potential to be another guy who can create space and shots is pretty high. Not sure on his ceiling, but any night Brooks shoots poorly the Grizz struggle. They need someone who can create for themselves.

Chris Duarte is interesting to me. I could see him going to the Knicks, Lakers, Clippers, Nets, Philly, any of those teams later in the first. He feels like a guy who can contribute from day 1 even though the ceiling maybe isn't sky high. I really think he could start for the Lakers day 1, or play a big 6th, 7th man role. I could even see Atlanta taking him to move Reddish in a trade or something with Gallo or Collins, and give Duarte that spot.

Wouldn't at all be surprised if the Lakers took Boston way too early with their pick, if they keep it. Or trade for a 2nd rounder to get him. He was supposed to be a top 5 pick, and Bron has that Sierra Canyon connection. Just feels like something they would do. I am not impressed with his game at all, but you can't deny potential. He makes some of these crazy shots he was throwing up and he's probably getting some LaVine comps instead of sliding to the 2nd round.

Still firmly believe a contending team should take a shot at Garza.. Worst case scenario he's the last man on your roster for a year or two and doesn't play. But teams like Clippers, Lakers, Denver, even Phoenix or Philly, where he could back up guys like Zubac, Gasol, Joker, Ayton, Embiid.. To me there is a very small chance his game translates, but if it does it could be a massive win.

[DieHardYankee26]

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Trae Mann for the Knicks at 19. One of the best shot creators in the class and that’s exactly what we need.

*pounds table*

Would we be better off trying for him or just trading up for Bouknight? Can either of them create for others or would we still need a point guard that can distribute?

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I love Bouknight (obviously) but I'd be perfectly fine with Mann if we don't trade up. After Jalen Green, I think Bouk has the chance to be the best scorer in this draft. Mann has some playmaking potential but he won't do much of it early in his career IMO. Right now Mann is a better playmaker than Bouknight. Mann and Cooper at 19/21...sure. Sign me up.

Despite some mocks, I don't think there's a chance in hell Bouknight is there at 19. Even Givony finally moved up from #21 to #14. I don't know what to do, I would hate to leave this offseason without adding playmakers and the FA market is thin. You can find scorers pretty easily and Bouk's playmaking potential is a big question mark.

[bigeastbumrush]

NBA Draft 2021

Would we be better off trying for him or just trading up for Bouknight? Can either of them create for others or would we still need a point guard that can distribute?

Agreeing with ehh Bouknight won’t be there at 19. I like him too and think he has Bradley Beal like qualities to his game. But I wouldn’t trade up for him UNLESS he starts to slide.

If he is there past 10, I’m picking up the phone.

With Mann, he wouldn’t get a lot of playing time under Thibs.

But yes, he can get in the lane and is a generous 6’4. Basically what you saw Trae Young doing to us, he can do. He has a crazy step back jumper but I question how consistent it can be at a pro level. He’s big enough to take contact and finish at the rim.

Pretty much would be Mitch’s best friend throwing lobs and a guy who can Iso and create his own shot when Randle is drunk.

EDIT: I wouldn’t take another PG if we got man. I’m not sold on Cooper primarily because of his height and outside shooting.

If we get Mann, I’m taking Duarte if he falls to 21. Heck, I’m taking the best shooter available whoever is there.

[Majingir]

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Your only hope is that Mobley falls to #4, which is unlikely. I wouldn't take any other big men in the Top 10.

You should wind up with whichever Jalen is left, which is pretty darn good. Since TOR is in a bit of a transition period it makes sense to take BPA.

I think he was probably referring to trading the pick for a C but I could be mistaken. At any rate, I'd agree with you on just taking one of the main 4 or 5 guys. I do think I'd be fine taking Sengun in the top 10 but I wouldn't do it at #4.

I meant a trade.

Not that those guys aren't good, but if theres a deal to be made for some teams starting C, I'm sure they'd listen.

[pietasterp]

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Ben Wallace continues to bring good juju to Motown. Bless the 'fro forever!

I really hope this is the start of a good nucleus for the 'Stones. The early returns (and I stress "early") are that last year's draft haul might be fruitful. I can see a lineup of Killian Hayes, Saddiq Bey, Isiah Stewart, and Cade Cunningham being a solid core for years.

Or it could all blow up and we'll be doing this again in a few years. C'est la vie.

[ojandpizza]

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I love Bouknight (obviously) but I'd be perfectly fine with Mann if we don't trade up. After Jalen Green, I think Bouk has the chance to be the best scorer in this draft. Mann has some playmaking potential but he won't do much of it early in his career IMO. Right now Mann is a better playmaker than Bouknight. Mann and Cooper at 19/21...sure. Sign me up.

Despite some mocks, I don't think there's a chance in hell Bouknight is there at 19. Even Givony finally moved up from #21 to #14. I don't know what to do, I would hate to leave this offseason without adding playmakers and the FA market is thin. You can find scorers pretty easily and Bouk's playmaking potential is a big question mark.

I feel like if the Knicks feel strongly he is their guy they could probably trade up to the Warriors at 7 or Pelicans at 10 fairly easily.

Warriors would probably take a pick swap with something like Frank and Knox for something that matched salaries. Rumors were claiming Hart wanted a fresh start from the Pelicans, Knicks could possibly swap picks and Knox for Hart with a future restricted first and make that move as well.

Warriors just feels realistic to me because they are picking at 14 and could possibly land a Davion Mitchell or Moses Moody with that pick, and likely land Duarte at the Knicks 19th pick as he really would be a solid Klay sub and probably ready for that role on day 1.

I think Frank would have to be a S&T? But I could see him being intriguing for them in that Barbosa/Livingston role.

Wouldn't be ideal to lose Frank and Knox for no improvement, but Quickley has jumped them both it seems in the rotation, and with playoff runs being in the future it seems Knox has been bounced for more experienced guys like Burks and Bullock anyways.

Hell Zion isn't happy, Knicks might be able to swing a Barrett for Ingram move into the mix and land that pick. Would likely take some future firsts, but Pelicans might be desperate to get a guy Zion likes on the team at this point.

[DieHardYankee26]

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I’m not one of those wait for Zion to ask out guys…but I’m certainly not doing anything to make him happier in New Orleans lol.