2020-21 Transaction Thread

[Majingir]

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Of all teams, Philly I see being most likely to sign Lowry beyond this season.

Miami I think would be a rental.

Although LA would be interesting. DeRozan has wanted to be a Laker forever. If Lowry gets dealt to LA, not sure if they could make it work, but maybe those two get reunited in LA?

Who else knows (and could cover up) those 2 guys weaknesses better than the guy who owned them for years?

[Vni]

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DeRozan would be a wierd fit. I could see him be a great 6th men though.

[Majingir]

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DeRozan would be a wierd fit. I could see him be a great 6th men though.

For next year, a lineup with:
Davis
LeBron
DeRozan
Lowry
Harrell or Kuzma

Would be real nice.

Dont know if they could even do it though with the salary it would cost to re-sign Lowry and then add DeRozan.

[cima]

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The rumors of the Knicks emerging as a serious trade destination for Andre Drummond reeks of Dan Gilbert sticking it to LeBron James and nothing more because Drummond to the Knicks makes zero sense

[ojandpizza]

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The rumors of the Knicks emerging as a serious trade destination for Andre Drummond reeks of Dan Gilbert sticking it to LeBron James and nothing more because Drummond to the Knicks makes zero sense

Baron Davis already told us he does that too. However, if any team would give me something that helps long term like picks or younger guys still on multi year deals I would rather get that than do a buyout if I’m Cleveland. No chance I would trade him for a contract swap though when buying him out might save a couple mil.

No clue why the Knicks would give up anything like that to get him though. They have Robinson and Noel, both Toppin and Randle can play small ball 5, all of those guys need minutes and development. Why they would throw Drummond into that mix I have no idea.

I think the Knicks would have to give up Burks, Rose, Noel, and Payton just to match money if they didn’t trade Randle. .. assuming they wouldn’t trade a younger guy like Knox or Frank.


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[illwill10]

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Of all teams, Philly I see being most likely to sign Lowry beyond this season.

Miami I think would be a rental.

Although LA would be interesting. DeRozan has wanted to be a Laker forever. If Lowry gets dealt to LA, not sure if they could make it work, but maybe those two get reunited in LA?

Who else knows (and could cover up) those 2 guys weaknesses better than the guy who owned them for years?

I do agree that he'll be likely to resign with Sixers. It's just the idea of paying him 25 million a year at 36 and 37, makes me hesitant. I don't see him falling off, but likely some type of decline.

I wouldn't mind Lonzo though. But Hill is the guy, I'm looking forward too. I rather have a vet PG who can create for himself and others

[Majingir]

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I do agree that he'll be likely to resign with Sixers. It's just the idea of paying him 25 million a year at 36 and 37, makes me hesitant. I don't see him falling off, but likely some type of decline.

I wouldn't mind Lonzo though. But Hill is the guy, I'm looking forward too. I rather have a vet PG who can create for himself and others

He'll really be 35/36, only just turning 37 weeks before the end of the 2022/2023 season.

He's not gonna be the same guy he was a few years back, but not like he's regressed a lot.

And any team he goes to, he won't be the #1 or maybe even #2 option, which allows him to be the playmaker which is what he's good at. He's a top 10 passer in the league even in his mid 30s.

[Smallville102001]

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Lakers have said they don't want to move THT or their first, and if both Bron and AD both don't come back at 100% they likely don't have a shot at winning this year regardless so why would they make that trade? Even if they do how does Lowry get you closer to a ring than having all of Schroder, KCP, THT?

The only way a trade like that makes sense to me is if it's KCP, Schroder, and Trez, and a third team is added to give them back more than just Lowry, on top of the Lakers knowing for a fact they were going to hit in the buyout market with guys like Drummond/Aldridge.

Even then they were only like 3 or 4 games out from first place with Utah when Bron went down. That's with AD missing however many games at that point. Do you blow up a team that just won a ring and was back to fighting for the number 1 spot for Kyle Lowry who turns 35 tomorrow? IDK about that.

Yeah and on top of that the lakers have a better team than last year to and I would say this team has more talent than any Lebron team before. If you take the top like 1-2 players of any team they are not going to be the same and no team if you take there top 2 players of are going to be good. So with no AD or no Lebron its not like there is anything the lakers can do that would still give there a chance to win this year.

[Smallville102001]

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I think he's a great get for a team like Philly because he's a guy that has the playoff experience and I believe has the leadership qualities I would want on a playoff team. He's been better in years past but still a guy who's hitting nearly 40% from 3, playing solid defense, and is a good floor general, also still getting you 18 and 7 which I didn't even realize his numbers were still that high..

I get that typically you wouldn't give up lots of players for a guy his age, but Philly could get him (at least match money) without trading any of Simmons, Embiid, Curry, Harris, Dwight, Shake, Maxey, Thybulle, Korkmz, if you add Lowry to that group and the fit works I think they could realistically be title favorites.

It would take a lot of guys, Green, Scott, Ferguson, Bradley to match money, likely a first maybe even two or a couple swaps to make them take the trade, but Scott isn't a huge part of their rotation, Ferguson hardly plays at all, and Bradley has played sparingly but pretty decent with Embiid out, still he would be behind Embiid and Dwight in their playoff rotation. So it's basically Danny Green and their 10th, 11th, and 15th men on the roster for an All-Star caliber PG..

I would do it in their particular circumstance just because the window to win is so small. Lowry, Curry, Simmons, Harris, Embiid, with Shake, Thybulle, Korkmaz, Dwight, Maxey still on the bench would be pretty solid. They would really be missing a back up 4 type of guy but not so badly that the free-agent or buy-out market wouldn't have somebody they could use for 8-10 minutes in the playoffs. Signing guys like Jordan Bell and DeMarre Carroll make that move worth it to me.

I dont think Raptors would give up him for that little though.

[ojandpizza]

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I dont think Raptors would give up him for that little though.

Well his contract is expiring and he’s likely to leave and they get nothing. So if Philly is the only team to offer up first round picks I think they would take the salary match. Especially since all of those guys are also expiring, meaning not taking back a single bad contract.


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[Smallville102001]

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Hell even if they can't get a 3rd team I would rather them swap THT for Trez and get back Lowry and Powell in that trade than 3 for 1 for just Lowry, and then Drummond + whatever in the buyout market.

Lakers already have a very deep team and while Lowry is better than Schröder I wouldn't say he is like way better and if you lose THT and Trez to go with Schroder I would say lakers get worse over all. Lakers dont need to do anything big if they are not healthy they are not going to win any way and the only thing the lakers really need is a big guy like Drummond. I would rather have the 2 stars we have right now than having like 2.5 all stars and not much of a bench left.

[Smallville102001]

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Well his contract is expiring and he’s likely to leave and they get nothing. So if Philly is the only team to offer up first round picks I think they would take the salary match. Especially since all of those guys are also expiring, meaning not taking back a single bad contract.


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The first round picks are going to be late first round picks though unless they have another pick from a trade I don't know about.

[ojandpizza]

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Lakers already have a very deep team and while Lowry is better than Schröder I wouldn't say he is like way better and if you lose THT and Trez to go with Schroder I would say lakers get worse over all. Lakers dont need to do anything big if they are not healthy they are not going to win any way and the only thing the lakers really need is a big guy like Drummond. I would rather have the 2 stars we have right now than having like 2.5 all stars and not much of a bench left.

I was saying trade Trez, Schroder, KCP to get back Lowry and Powell and then hit the buyout guys. Not trade THT.


Lowry is an upgrade over Schroder for what they need, and it seems as if they can’t keep Schroder anyways because he’s only in trade talks because he’s wanting more money than they will pay him.

Powell has been substantially better than KCP so far this year. And they would be swapping Trez with Drummond or Aldridge most likely, and they wouldn’t be able to keep Trez after this season anyways so that’s essentially a wash.

That’s the only way a trade for Lowry works for the Lakers without involving a 3rd team. 3 heavy rotation guys for Lowry, especially a move that pushes Wes into the starting 5 isn’t a good trade for them.


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[ojandpizza]

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The first round picks are going to be late first round picks though unless they have another pick from a trade I don't know about.

Which is better than no first round picks regardless.

And Philly has a roster full of late picks that are currently their best players. Siakam, VanVleet, OG, Boucher, teams like Toronto, San Antonio, OKC, they do well with picks regardless of where they are in the draft order.


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[illwill10]

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He'll really be 35/36, only just turning 37 weeks before the end of the 2022/2023 season.

He's not gonna be the same guy he was a few years back, but not like he's regressed a lot.

And any team he goes to, he won't be the #1 or maybe even #2 option, which allows him to be the playmaker which is what he's good at. He's a top 10 passer in the league even in his mid 30s.

I can see that. His game isn't based on athleticism, so as long as he stays healthy, he should stay at the same level. Yeah he'll be the 3rd/4th option(depending on how aggressive Ben is). We wouldn't be asking for Prime Lowry. We would just need him to be a secondary playmaker, good defender, and be that shot creator.

But, if they would to consider making that move, they'll have to have corresponding moves ready. Giving him 3 bench players(likely Scott, Maxey, and a filler), you go from wanting to improve bench to having to improve bench. After that move, the bench would likely be Shake, Matisse, Furkan, and Howard. Would have to replace Scott and still need that backup PG.