2021-22 NBA Trade Deadline

[ProfessaPackMan]

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What’s the alternative that you do with that money then?

Old guys that are still elite will still be getting paid either way.

[illwill10]

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What’s the alternative that you do with that money then?

Old guys that are still elite will still be getting paid either way.

I can see that. I just worry about how their game translates in a couple years

But, If you're saying you either win a title or a legit title contender for at least a couple years, would I pay them that amount? Of course, without a doubt.

[King_B_Mack]

2021-22 NBA Trade Deadline

What’s the alternative that you do with that money then?

Old guys that are still elite will still be getting paid either way.

Old elite guys getting paid supermax money on somebody else’s roster is significantly different than them getting paid on your own. If I’m the Blazers and I’m clearly staring down the barrel of tear down rebuild, paying an aging elite Dame the supermax just because he’s gonna get paid regardless makes zero sense. Good for him he’s gonna get paid by somebody. Doesn’t mean I have to be the one on the hook for it.

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[illwill10]

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Old elite guys getting paid supermax money on somebody else’s roster is significantly different than them getting paid on your own. If I’m the Blazers and I’m clearly staring down the barrel of tear down rebuild, paying an aging elite Dame the supermax just because he’s gonna get paid regardless makes zero sense. Good for him he’s gonna get paid by somebody. Doesn’t mean I have to be the one on the hook for it.

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Especially in Portland's case. It's one thing if they were a contender. But what's the point of paying Lillard $50M+ just to be a 1st or 2nd round exit. Their best asset is Simons. They aren't getting much from CJ. Portland isn't a free agent destination. Unless they can hit on picks, they're not headed anywhere

[ProfessaPackMan]

2021-22 NBA Trade Deadline

Old elite guys getting paid supermax money on somebody else’s roster is significantly different than them getting paid on your own. If I’m the Blazers and I’m clearly staring down the barrel of tear down rebuild, paying an aging elite Dame the supermax just because he’s gonna get paid regardless makes zero sense. Good for him he’s gonna get paid by somebody. Doesn’t mean I have to be the one on the hook for it.

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But his contract isn’t preventing them from rebuilding.

Now if you think he’s on the decline now(none of know and they don’t know either)and think his best years are behind him(like Harden even though they’re two completely different players)then as a GM, you’re within your right to move him. He still has 3 years left on his current deal so I don’t see why they would need to rush anything.

But the notion that HE is going to prevent them from being able to rebuild…that mess isn’t true and we all know that.

Especially in Portland's case. It's one thing if they were a contender. But what's the point of paying Lillard $50M+ just to be a 1st or 2nd round exit. Their best asset is Simons. They aren't getting much from CJ. Portland isn't a free agent destination. Unless they can hit on picks, they're not headed anywhere

And they won’t be heading anywhere without him so what’s the difference?

All that supposed cap space and draft picks yet going nowhere, lol. Y’all gonna let these GMs/Exes con y’all into thinking they’re broke/can’t rebuild. It’s the same tactics they do in the NFL, when they try to cry broke or don’t have any flexibility to make moves.

[ProfessaPackMan]

2021-22 NBA Trade Deadline

Shams reporting that the Sixers are going after James Harden and the Nets are now open to discussing a deal.

Safe to say we lost that trade 13 months later.

Bring on Ben, Seth and Danny.

Shams: “There’s expectation that both the 76ers and Nets will engage in dialogue on a deal around Simmons for Harden this week, with Philadelphia holding a chest of role players in Seth Curry, Tyrese Maxey and Matisse Thybulle that could sweeten a potential package.”

Shams: “But beyond availability, sources say there have been growing concerns over Harden’s playing style that contrasts with the free-flowing, organic approach from his two co-stars.”

[illwill10]

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Shams reporting that the Sixers are going after James Harden and the Nets are now open to discussing a deal.

Safe to say we lost that trade 13 months later.

Bring on Ben, Seth and Danny.

I'll do that lol. Especially for Ben, Seth, Danny. It's all up to Harden. If he tells them he's not staying, then they won't get as much then in a sign and trade as they would now.

But, I'm still not 100% on Harden. On paper, it could work. But, I worry about him being in shape, being fully focused, don't feel its a slam dunk.

[Master Live 013]

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Oh, it isn't a slam dunk by any means but this is the moment Morey has been waiting for. If everything goes right you have 2 stars to try go get that Title. Simmons ain't coming back, Embiid is having what will probably be his best season ever and it is time to pull the trigger.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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The in shape part isn’t the concern, at this point, it’s the hamstring issue(if this one is legit)and playstyle with Embiid and the rest of the team.

Cuz he gonna slow that ball down and drain that shot clock with no ball movement.

[illwill10]

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The in shape part isn’t the concern, at this point, it’s the hamstring issue(if this one is legit)and playstyle with Embiid and the rest of the team.

Cuz he gonna slow that ball down and drain that shot clock with no ball movement.

Oh, it isn't a slam dunk by any means but this is the moment Morey has been waiting for. If everything goes right you have 2 stars to try go get that Title. Simmons ain't coming back, Embiid is having what will probably be his best season ever and it is time to pull the trigger.

I can see that. I would just hope we wouldn't give up Maxey or Thybulle in a potential deal.

Even then, I don't think that's enough to push us over. Still would need a wing with size. I wouldn't mind packaging Green and Furkan and a 1st for a wing. I'm all for moving Curry.


I do worry about the hamstring and playstyle fit. Outside of Tobias at times, we don't isolate on the perimeter like that. I'm not sure how Harden and Maxey fits alongside each other. But both are combo guards.

I would still look to move Tobias though

[georgiafan]

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Feels like the Ben and harden trade could happen

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Will, what you think about this?

https://twitter.com/yossigozlan/status/1489732910676537344?s=21

[Master Live 013]

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I mean this could be a total disaster for the Sixers. Harden gets hurt, doesn't play in the playoffs and the Sixers get bounced. He could play, choke like he has done before and Sixers get bounced. He could play well and the Sixers could still get bounced. Plus there is the fact that you could be trading for about half a season of Harden.

[illwill10]

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Will, what you think about this?

https://twitter.com/yossigozlan/stat...676537344?s=21

I do think Harden wants that 5 year $270M regardless. Sign and trade can work without moving Harris. But, it makes it so much harder being hardcapped with Harris on the roster. If it gets a sign and trade, Brooklyn has less leverage in a trade. But at the same time, the best team with Cap space is the Spurs. I don't see Harden going to Spurs. But, if Harden says I'm not going to resign and you want anything in return than take whatever Philly offers, than Nets are in a hard place.

What's the best thing you think Sixers could get for Tobias, 1st, and any young player(besides Maxey and Matisse)? At this point, I would take anything for Tobias. If we keep Maxey, I don't want Tobias as a 4th option at his salary.

[illwill10]

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I mean this could be a total disaster for the Sixers. Harden gets hurt, doesn't play in the playoffs and the Sixers get bounced. He could play, choke like he has done before and Sixers get bounced. He could play well and the Sixers could still get bounced. Plus there is the fact that you could be trading for about half a season of Harden.

Sh*t could hit the fan in a year or so, even if it does work out. Every Philly fans gasps when Joel falls and doesn't immediately get up lol. With Joel's health, he can get a knee injury and not be the same. And Harden could regress within a year or two or keep having hamstring issues. Philly could be in a situation where in 2 years, Joel is hobbled and Harden is a shell of himself.

But as much as I'm not 100% on Harden, if we're going to gamble on a window of 2-3 years of Harden, we're already in the same boat with Joel lol