2021-22 NBA Trade Deadline

[DieHardYankee26]

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Well, well, well, how the turntables.

[bigeastbumrush]

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Well, well, well, how the turntables.

[bigeastbumrush]

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Per Woj, the Kings have broken off talk with the Sixers and are no longer trying to trade for Ben Simmons.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Aye will, you starting to mentally prepare for a Harden-Simmons swap in the offseason too?

[illwill10]

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Per Woj, the Kings have broken off talk with the Sixers and are no longer trying to trade for Ben Simmons.

Not surprised. Kings need to make a trade. Theyre terrible, but they want to at least make the play-in. If they want to make a deal, they can't afford to wait on Morey angling for a better deal.

Aye will, you starting to mentally prepare for a Harden-Simmons swap in the offseason too?

I was mentally prepared last season when it was close to happening then lol. It's still not my preferred deal. But if this goes to offseason, they almost have to end up with Harden, Lillard, Beal There's only going to be 3 teams with cap space. Orlando, Detroit, and Spurs. He's not going to any of those teams lol. It'll likely have to be a sign and trade

But if it is true for Sac being out, I do think it makes it more likely it goes to the offseason. I feel like Sac was the most likely team that was going to make a trade for him. Only way I see a trade before deadline is if someone gets desperate. But, I do think they do make a trade to try to fix some of the issues. If they do plan on making a trade for a superstar in the offseason anyway, they need to get off of the Green and Furkan contract. Those two can get them a rotation player who can help them now

But, I dont like the idea of paying Harden or Dame $50M+ in their mid 30s. I'd rather try to go for Beal if I had to pay the max even though he hasn't had a great season this year.

[Master Live 013]

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I mean, Sacramento is one of the worse franchises in sports, so I'm confident that whatever they do is probably wrong. And as much as I love Morey sticking it to Ben Simmons and Rich Paul this is going to be probably Embiid's best season ever (27 season) and without more help the odds are against him overcoming the Bucks or Nets plus other teams in their tier like the Heat.

[Majingir]

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Dragic still hanging around Miami it seems like, but people keep saying the Raptors will just buy him out.

I dont see what's the benefit of keeping him for so long just to buy him out.

I'm sure someone would give up at least a 2nd, or if they have a guy with 2 years left on his deal that they want to use as a cap dump, they could probably package that guy and some better pick for Dragic.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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What’s it cost to the Raptors to buy him out again?

[ojandpizza]

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What’s it cost to the Raptors to buy him out again?

Whatever they agree upon.. could be a million dollars or nearly his entire salary. A lot of times in this scenario a team will buyout the player for basically his whole contract less a minimum deal. So the player gets bought out signs a minimum deal to another team and never loses a dime of his actual salary.

The problem is that doesn’t benefit the team much. So they would prefer a trade. Unless shedding a couple mil is going to save them millions more in luxury taxes there is almost no benefit for teams to grant players a buyout.

Obviously if Dragic would take like a 9 mil buyout Toronto would likely do that because at that point they would only be paying half of what they are currently paying him for this season. Still a lot of money for a player who’s giving you zero points, but at least you clear a roster spot for some one who’s going to at least be with the team I guess.

It’s just difficult because for a buyout to happen both sides have to agree on a number. Almost like negotiating a contract in the off-season. Players don’t want to give up money but teams don’t want to pay a ton of money just to let a guy walk either. That’s why so many buyouts are typically older players on the last year of a deal with a team that they’ve done right by over their career with them. Or players traded to a new team as basically just salary filler to make the trade work.

I’m sure Toronto believed they would get a solid backup guard to help their playoff push or a solid trade chip for a team needing another guard. Otherwise they likely would have agreed to a buyout immediately after that trade. It’s been so long now they’re basically in that awkward spot where it most likely makes sense to see how the trade deadline goes and decide after that how much less Dragic will agree to take to move elsewhere. Or be stingy and just tell any team that wants him that they will not agree to a buyout and maybe force someone’s hand in a trade.

[georgiafan]

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I don’t see why Dragic isn’t playing for Toronto it’s not like they are loaded The PG spot. They also aren’t some kind of rat team and are well
Well run.

Also the chances of someone wanting go trade for him and his 20 million goes way down after not playing.


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[illwill10]

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I don't think they are getting anything of significance since Dragic is on a expiring. At most just a salary matching deal, and likely one that has a sizable expiring deal as well

I would take a shot at Dragic either through buyout or trade. I would do Green, Furkan, and a 2nd for Dragic. Regardless, we need to get off Furkan and Green contract in the offseason if they want to make a big splash. Only downside is that we wouldn't want the same experience as we had George Hill last year where it felt like a waste of a trade.


I expect Wizards to make moves. They're on a downslide. They have an abundance of wings and Dinwiddie hasn't had a good season. I expect them to either improve the PG or Center spot. They would be a good team to go after Sabonis

[ProfessaPackMan]

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I don’t see why Dragic isn’t playing for Toronto it’s not like they are loaded The PG spot. They also aren’t some kind of rat team and are well
Well run.

Also the chances of someone wanting go trade for him and his 20 million goes way down after not playing.


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Ask yourself why would someone like him at this point in his career want to play for a team whose ceiling is a play-in team this year? He’s in the last year or 2 of his career, he’s not going to get another big money deal again.

The money is already a sunk cost so it just seems silly to keep him just because or to just wait for a protected 2nd rd pick. Work with that man on a buyout and let him go.

[ProfessaPackMan]

2021-22 NBA Trade Deadline

I don't think they are getting anything of significance since Dragic is on a expiring. At most just a salary matching deal, and likely one that has a sizable expiring deal as well

I would take a shot at Dragic either through buyout or trade. I would do Green, Furkan, and a 2nd for Dragic. Regardless, we need to get off Furkan and Green contract in the offseason if they want to make a big splash. Only downside is that we wouldn't want the same experience as we had George Hill last year where it felt like a waste of a trade.


I expect Wizards to make moves. They're on a downslide. They have an abundance of wings and Dinwiddie hasn't had a good season. I expect them to either improve the PG or Center spot. They would be a good team to go after Sabonis

Center spot isn’t the issue. The logjam is at the 3/4 spot so any move they make will probably involve right there.

And even with that, I’m not even sure Sabonis can help fix the issues going on with this team.

[ojandpizza]

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I don't think they are getting anything of significance since Dragic is on a expiring. At most just a salary matching deal, and likely one that has a sizable expiring deal as well

I would take a shot at Dragic either through buyout or trade. I would do Green, Furkan, and a 2nd for Dragic. Regardless, we need to get off Furkan and Green contract in the offseason if they want to make a big splash. Only downside is that we wouldn't want the same experience as we had George Hill last year where it felt like a waste of a trade.


I expect Wizards to make moves. They're on a downslide. They have an abundance of wings and Dinwiddie hasn't had a good season. I expect them to either improve the PG or Center spot. They would be a good team to go after Sabonis

Toronto has a huge amount of redundancy at that defensive 3 spot. Siakam OG, Barnes.. I know Masai is big on Siakam but I wonder if that could be a trade spot for Ben.

Ben + Tobias for something like Siakam, Dragic, and one of OG/Trent

That gives Toronto a player they can utilize as a true point offensively without losing any defense and lets Barnes naturally become the "guy" offensively. Their core of Simmons, Barnes, OG/Trent, and Precious would all be 25 and under. FVV only 27.. While it wouldn't be ideal to take on the Harris contract it would be expiring the same year as FVV, and Trent if OG is the guy they traded, clearing them well over 70 million that year meaning they could in theory add a max level player to pair with Ben and Barnes.

I'm assuming Toronto would want a couple picks but I think it's doable given their ceiling with Siakam as their best player is likely just going to be a team fighting for the playoffs. Philly misses out on a "star" but adding OG and Siakam would make them scary. And Dragic might stick around until he's ready to call it quits and give them a solid guard off the bench to relieve some playmaking responsibility from Maxey.

Of course in Toronto's case, and a lot of other teams, I'm sure they could be holding their trade chips for a guy like Ben thinking one of those Boston guys might be moved at some point. But in Toronto's case they'll have plenty of scoring with Barnes, FVV, Trent, Ben.

[illwill10]

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Center spot isn’t the issue. The logjam is at the 3/4 spot so any move they make will probably involve right there.

And even with that, I’m not even sure Sabonis can help fix the issues going on with this team.

And Beal hasn't been great either. They do have to be realistic. As much as I would take him on the team and give him that supermax, he's not a #1.

Toronto has a huge amount of redundancy at that defensive 3 spot. Siakam OG, Barnes.. I know Masai is big on Siakam but I wonder if that could be a trade spot for Ben.

Ben + Tobias for something like Siakam, Dragic, and one of OG/Trent

That gives Toronto a player they can utilize as a true point offensively without losing any defense and lets Barnes naturally become the "guy" offensively. Their core of Simmons, Barnes, OG/Trent, and Precious would all be 25 and under. FVV only 27.. While it wouldn't be ideal to take on the Harris contract it would be expiring the same year as FVV, and Trent if OG is the guy they traded, clearing them well over 70 million that year meaning they could in theory add a max level player to pair with Ben and Barnes.

I'm assuming Toronto would want a couple picks but I think it's doable given their ceiling with Siakam as their best player is likely just going to be a team fighting for the playoffs. Philly misses out on a "star" but adding OG and Siakam would make them scary. And Dragic might stick around until he's ready to call it quits and give them a solid guard off the bench to relieve some playmaking responsibility from Maxey.

Of course in Toronto's case, and a lot of other teams, I'm sure they could be holding their trade chips for a guy like Ben thinking one of those Boston guys might be moved at some point. But in Toronto's case they'll have plenty of scoring with Barnes, FVV, Trent, Ben.

Don't think Raptors would want that, but I'll take that in a second. Dragic, OG, and Siakam would be great. That fills a lot of our needs. We get a true PG who could be good off the bench and could play alongside either Maxey and Curry. OG and Siakam improves our perimeter defense and rebounding. Siakam shooting could be streaky at times, but he should be good fit next to Joel. Maxey-Curry-OG-Siakim-Embiid would be a good lineup with Dragic-Matisse/Shake-Green/Furkan-Niang-Drummond as the bench.

But, Raptors say no to that