2024 NBA Draft

[Majingir]

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Funny story, Raptors 2nd round pick Mogbo has been in the city a few times over the years already visiting his friend Scottie Barnes and he said whenever he comes to the city people keep coming up to him thinking he's Precious Achiuwa.

One day he had dinner with Scottie and Precious and when he told Precious the stories Precious was basically like "I see it."

Scottie replacing one of his old friends with a guy who looks like him.

[ggsimmonds]

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There isn’t even a battle to pick. At no other point in time has anybody gave enough ****s to argue about if a player picked 55th in a draft “deserved” to be picked or not until this pick lol.

The Bucks just took a dude 23rd who was 25 spots behind Bronny as a recruit coming out of HS and averaged 2/1/1 in the NBL last year. But people are worried about if Bronny took a spot from a more deserving player at 55.

Like how does Bron bother so many people to that magnitude. I’m trying to think of any human that I just have to come up with some anti-whoever rant every time he does something. Those people gotta be exhausted by this point, 20 years lol.

If it was Joe Shmo was who projected as a late 2nd round pick/undrafted FA and he told other teams not to draft him, and I made the remark "dude is trash only averaging 6 points in college and has the nerve to do this" would you then go and do research looking up freshman year stats for random guys?

I'm willing to be the answer to that is no. So you're bothered by it as much if not more than the people you are calling out for being bothered by LeBron

[ojandpizza]

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The point is more so people have been bitching about this since he put his name in the draft. It didn’t start with him getting drafted, or with Rich Paul trying to get him to the Lakers. And that part isn’t all that uncommon anyways, it’s the same path Reaves took to go un-drafted and end up on the Lakers too. And I’m sure plenty of other players/agents that nobody hears/complains about because it’s not LeBron and Rich Paul and generally nobody cares.

Your point about Rich Paul is why all the complaining is silly though. If the Rich Paul thing is even true to begin with. If he had to tell 24 other teams not to draft Bronny then the notion that he wasn’t worth being picked 55 and only got drafted because the Lakers were doing Bron a favor is silly because he would have otherwise been picked earlier than that. So the same crowd crying that he took someone more deservings spot and should have never been drafted can’t also be crying over what Rich pulled as the two points contradict one another.

If all this just started with the Rich Paul stuff and hadn’t been directly about Bronny for months now then sure that would be more fair game. But we don’t really have anything to compare the amount of attention this has gotten from the Bronny side of this. Sure Thanasis is a meme and people crack jokes about him, but there isn’t going to be 20+ subreddits in a span of 2 months started over him being on the roster, or for the guy Milwaukee just took at 23 either. Or just any random player taken with one of the last 5 picks. So if all this is just largely something else for the same crowd to bitch about something because they’ve been doing that for the last 20 years, then there lies my point.

[ggsimmonds]

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Right.

Bron getting his son drafted to his team doesn’t bother me. It’s cool to see because let’s be real…any other father would do the same thing. Nepotism is real always has been.

What IS hypocritical is seeing the same folks champion this be the same ones that throw the nepo card(in a negative light)at Giannis and his brother being on the team. This ain’t no different and I hope they(Bron Stans and if THIS part doesn’t apply to you, then let it fly)see that too.

I'm only bothered by it in so far as I don't want to hear LeBron say he isn't pressuring his son or that he wants him to be his own man. I saw a quote by AD that said "its clear Bronny wants to be his own man and not in the shadow of his dad" and that doesn't check out.

The nepotism angle doesn't bother me one way or the other. I don't believe the take that Bronny "stole" someone's spot who is more deserving. I wouldn't have an issue with LeBron saying if Bronny was available he wants the Lakers to pick him. What I do take issue with (but its small) is the LeBron camp "engineering" this (this is the key) but the LeBron camp playing like thats not exactly what they did

[ojandpizza]

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If it was Joe Shmo was who projected as a late 2nd round pick/undrafted FA and he told other teams not to draft him, and I made the remark "dude is trash only averaging 6 points in college and has the nerve to do this" would you then go and do research looking up freshman year stats for random guys?

I'm willing to be the answer to that is no. So you're bothered by it as much if not more than the people you are calling out for being bothered by LeBron

It’s not that simple though. Joe Shmo wouldn’t have 20 subreddits with thousands of comments over the past two months. His agent’s comments wouldn’t crack national television news. Woj wouldn’t have to sit on live TV and defend nepotism because the amount of bitching would never reach high enough to deserve a response.

I feel like I do a pretty decent job of calling out most forms of NBA hypocrisy. I can’t help LeBron tends to have 10 times the amount to reply to. If hypothetical Joe Shmo was getting thousands of reactions I probably would have to question why he was getting so much attention. The stat digging was only because other people are bringing up HIS stats. Acting as if any player to do that as a freshmen can’t possibly have the potential to be good. Something they also wouldn’t do with Joe Shmo.

[ggsimmonds]

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It’s not that simple though. Joe Shmo wouldn’t have 20 subreddits with thousands of comments over the past two months. His agent’s comments wouldn’t crack national television news. Woj wouldn’t have to sit on live TV and defend nepotism because the amount of bitching would never reach high enough to deserve a response.

I feel like I do a pretty decent job of calling out most forms of NBA hypocrisy. I can’t help LeBron tends to have 10 times the amount to reply to. If hypothetical Joe Shmo was getting thousands of reactions I probably would have to question why he was getting so much attention. The stat digging was only because other people are bringing up HIS stats. Acting as if any player to do that as a freshmen can’t possibly have the potential to be good. Something they also wouldn’t do with Joe Shmo.

Its not LeBron hypocrisy though. Across every sport its the same -- anything involving the superstars gets blown up.

[The 24th Letter]

2024 NBA Draft

Here's what blows my mind about these particular kind of takes on this topic.

First, why we gotta sit here and pretend like people haven't talked **** about Giannis' NBA talentless brothers for years just to make this situation okay?

Second I keep seeing this nonsense about the NBA being full of nepotism and I saw a clown on Twitter yesterday literally have a whole thread of nepotism in sports starting with the Dallas Cowboys and Jerry's crew over there just to defend Bron and this situation and my question to that (nevermind the fact that those people are far more qualified for the jobs they have than Bronny is for the one he just got, but I digress) is simple. What are we actually doing here? How are we really trying to compare apples to hand grenades here? Someone can correct me if I'm wrong here cause I legit don't remember, but how is Giannis' brother signing with the Bucks as a free agent or Jerry Jones hiring his family to work for his team even in the same realm as LeBron & Rich Paul conspiring (we know he got that skill on lock already) to make sure that 24 other teams ahead of the Lakers in the draft don't decide they want to take a flier with their 2nd round pick on Bronny turning into his dad by threatening to go overseas if they draft him?

An agent threatening other teams not to draft their client so they can go to their desired destination is also not ground breaking.

Maybe Woj, who has been at odds with LeBron for years is in on the conspiracy too, I don’t know….but I’d lean toward him saying that because that particular angle on this topic is pretty silly.

Nepotism is the act of granting an advantage, privilege, or position to relatives or friends in an occupation or field. It’s as simple as that. It has happened long before Bronny, it will happen long after.

If this was a situation like JR’s brother Chris Smith’s, where his salary actually had an impact on the Knicks decision making I’d get it.

In Bronnys case, he was just drafted with the 55th pick in the draft. So I think I’d ask the same question- What are we doing here? What exactly are we mad at?


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[King_B_Mack]

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Are people really mad tho? Or we eye rolling the ridiculousness of the situation?

As for agents warning teams not to draft their clients not being new we really gonna sit here and act like late 2nd round - UDFA talent agents are the ones doing that vs lottery projected - mid to late first round talent? OJ talking about other players/agents we don't hear about. Yes because 2nd round/UDFA talent tend to not have super agents and likely don't make those demands cause they're just trying to make a team. This isn't as complicated as we're making it right now I promise.

[ggsimmonds]

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Are people really mad tho? Or we eye rolling the ridiculousness of the situation?

As for agents warning teams not to draft their clients not being new we really gonna sit here and act like late 2nd round - UDFA talent agents are the ones doing that vs lottery projected - mid to late first round talent? OJ talking about other players/agents we don't hear about. Yes because 2nd round/UDFA talent tend to not have super agents and likely don't make those demands cause they're just trying to make a team. This isn't as complicated as we're making it right now I promise.

I think OJ was talking about people on Twitter and yeah being mad about the outrage of the week is the natural state of being on Twitter.
But thats why we should not give what is said there by "fans" any serious thought

[J_Posse]

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I'm far from someone that defends lebron. A lot of teams literally give away picks around #55 so I'm not going to trash a team that takes a player. The fact that it could motivate Lebron for a few more years alone prob makes the pick worth it. Also Giannis brother who has no business being a NBA player has been on the bucks for several years and nobody says anything about that

I know for a fact that people crap on Thanasis for riding his brother's coattails to a 6 - year (5 in Milwaukee) NBA career.

Which could be over shortly with him being injured with an ACL tear and Milwaukee being roster/cash strapped.

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[The 24th Letter]

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Literally just had a second round pick opt to go back to Europe on the advice of his agent after being picked, but the goal posts will probably be moved so I’ll leave it there. Nothing new under the sun, just different names attached.

Can definitely agree it’s nowhere near as complicated as it’s being made though.

[J_Posse]

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Literally just had a second round pick opt to go back to Europe on the advice of his agent after being picked, but the goal posts will probably be moved so I’ll leave it there. Nothing new under the sun, just different names attached.

Can definitely agree it’s nowhere near as complicated as it’s being made though.

Who's going back? The kid the Spurs selected?

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[The 24th Letter]

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Who's going back? The kid the Spurs selected?

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Yep Juan is headed back


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[l3ulvl]

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Funny thing would be if LeBron left anyway, Shabazz Napier all over again but with his own son

[King_B_Mack]

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Literally just had a second round pick opt to go back to Europe on the advice of his agent after being picked, but the goal posts will probably be moved so I’ll leave it there. Nothing new under the sun, just different names attached.

Can definitely agree it’s nowhere near as complicated as it’s being made though.

Lmao a international player that’s already under contract to 2 teams overseas that’s clearly being drafted as a draft and stash is the same scenario as an American kid’s agent telling all the teams ahead of his preferred spot in the draft to not draft him so he can make it to that spot otherwise he’s gonna leave the country to find a team to play with is definitely the same thing. Sure thing, I’ll go ahead and “move these goal posts” [emoji849]


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