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  • Majingir
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    • Apr 2005
    • 47649

    #91
    Re: 2024 NBA Draft

    Seems like one of the mindsets of teams is that you can't really prepare for your pick in this draft.

    One Raptors executive for instance said with their 19th pick, they have no idea who might be available. Someone you thought is going in the top 14 might drop to your pick, maybe multiple guys drop to your spot.

    In other drafts you might have your choice almost made for you with the draft playing out similar to how you thought, so a guy available at your pick is the guy you projected to be the best available player by that pick so it helps. But having multiple guys projected to go much higher falling to your pick could complicate things since you weren't anticipating either guy falling to your pick and now have to really make a decision on two guys you might have had on almost even playing field on your rankings.

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    • Majingir
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      • Apr 2005
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      #92
      Re: 2024 NBA Draft

      Nikola Topic, projected late lottery pick has a torn ACL.

      No doubt that'll impact his draft spot. Wonder how far he falls.

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      • Yeah...THAT Guy
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        • Dec 2006
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        #93
        Re: 2024 NBA Draft

        Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
        Nobody flashy basically.

        And if you don’t watch College Hoops religiously, which most people don’t nowadays, I can see how folks come to the conclusion that it’s a bad draft.
        I think most people that do watch college basketball would probably agree that it's a bad class too. Just because these guys aren't considered great prospects doesn't mean they can't exceed expectations and turn into great players. Likewise, great prospects don't always pan out. It's the nature of drafts. But the prospects in this draft look weak relative to most NBA classes. The top of the draft this year are mostly a mix of guys that project to be good defenders but have very limited offensive game or guys that have offensive game but are projected to be poor defenders and it obviously doesn't improve as you work your way down to the late 1st round and stuff. It's very much a beauty is in the eye of the beholder year. The prospects have more severe weaknesses this year than they usually do, so it really depends on what teams want to prioritize/what they can look past.
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        • Yeah...THAT Guy
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          #94
          Re: 2024 NBA Draft

          Originally posted by Majingir
          Nikola Topic, projected late lottery pick has a torn ACL.

          No doubt that'll impact his draft spot. Wonder how far he falls.
          Before the injury, there were some believing he could go as high as #2. I was never there personally. Not sure if I'd even have him as one of my top 2 PGs in this year's class but I think I'm probably lower on him than most.
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          • J_Posse
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            • Jun 2005
            • 11255

            #95
            Re: 2024 NBA Draft

            Originally posted by Yeah...THAT Guy
            I think most people that do watch college basketball would probably agree that it's a bad class too. Just because these guys aren't considered great prospects doesn't mean they can't exceed expectations and turn into great players. Likewise, great prospects don't always pan out. It's the nature of drafts. But the prospects in this draft look weak relative to most NBA classes. The top of the draft this year are mostly a mix of guys that project to be good defenders but have very limited offensive game or guys that have offensive game but are projected to be poor defenders and it obviously doesn't improve as you work your way down to the late 1st round and stuff. It's very much a beauty is in the eye of the beholder year. The prospects have more severe weaknesses this year than they usually do, so it really depends on what teams want to prioritize/what they can look past.
            Originally posted by Yeah...THAT Guy
            Before the injury, there were some believing he could go as high as #2. I was never there personally. Not sure if I'd even have him as one of my top 2 PGs in this year's class but I think I'm probably lower on him than most.
            Is it a partial or complete tear of his ACL?

            I think the recovery time for a partial tear is much shorter, but he'd likely miss a majority (or all) of the upcoming season either way.

            I could see him either falling to the end of the lottery or out of it into the 20's.

            Which would suck for him money wise, but he'd go into a much better team situation once healthy.

            I wonder if teams will trade down in the hopes of acquiring Topic outside of the lottery? That would be calculated, but a very risky move if someone grabs him before your pick.

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            • Yeah...THAT Guy
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              • Dec 2006
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              #96
              Re: 2024 NBA Draft

              Originally posted by J_Posse
              Is it a partial or complete tear of his ACL?

              I think the recovery time for a partial tear is much shorter, but he'd likely miss a majority (or all) of the upcoming season either way.

              I could see him either falling to the end of the lottery or out of it into the 20's.

              Which would suck for him money wise, but he'd go into a much better team situation once healthy.

              I wonder if teams will trade down in the hopes of acquiring Topic outside of the lottery? That would be calculated, but a very risky move if someone grabs him before your pick.

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              The reports I've seen said it was only a partial tear but not sure if that's changed.
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              • Majingir
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                • Apr 2005
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                #97
                Re: 2024 NBA Draft

                Raptors seem real interested in Edey with the 19th pick.

                Too many bad memories of the 00s Raptors drafting non US born big men during their bad years who turned into nothing. But Edey could be different right?

                I think he'd be the biggest player they've ever had. Funny possibly having 7'5 Edey in same lineup as 5'7 Markquis Nowell. Manute Bol and Muggsy Bogues 2.0
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                • Yeah...THAT Guy
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                  • Dec 2006
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                  #98
                  Re: 2024 NBA Draft

                  Some of the guys I'm higher or lower on than the consensus this year:

                  Devin Carter: One of the few prospects I really love in this class. I currently have him #3 on my board. If you don't believe in him as a PG, he's short for a SG. I tend to be fairly optimistic about him as a point and I think his length, strength, and athleticism will allow him to stick as a SG if need be. Kind of reminds me of Donovan Mitchell coming out of Louisville, but Mitchell developed in a way I really didn't foresee at all when he got to the NBA so it's kind of a weird comp.

                  Ron Holland: Just kind of a believer in the production he had and the progress he showed as an on-ball guy this year. The jumper is wretched though and while the defensive flashes are great, he's not as good on that end as he should be.

                  Jared McCain: Similar to Carter, I'm just kind of optimistic about his chances of making it as a PG. He doesn't have the length and athleticism to stick at SG if PG doesn't work out for him, but he's similarly stout so he can defend bigger than you expect. His jumper is amazing and he's a better playmaker than given credit for IMO.

                  Those guys are all in my top 6 personally. A few late 1st or later guys that I like are Terrence Shannon (probably late 1st), Harrison Ingram (early to mid 2nd), Dillon Jones, Jaylen Wells, and Quinten Post (all of whom could potentially go undrafted).

                  The guys I'm relatively lower on:

                  Tidjane Salaun: Just way too raw for my blood. As big a project as it gets. I get that this draft class is poor, especially in terms of potential stars, but the idea of him going top 10 is insane to me.

                  Nikola Topic: The only way he works in the NBA is if he's able to get into the paint at will and while he did it well for Mega this year, he kinda floundered once he stepped up in competition (granted he was also bouncing back from injury) and I'm just not really sure I trust that he'll be able to turn the corner on NBA athletes the way he did in Europe. This one could make me look very bad in a few years though if he simply continues putting people in jail in the NBA.

                  Stephon Castle: I think everyone rightfully has questions about his offensive ability. I'm not really sold on him as a super elite defensive player; I think he'll probably be above average or good defensively, but I think he got away with a ton of fouls at UConn much like Andre Jackson did the year before, and then Jackson got to the NBA and fouled at a historic rate as a rookie. On top of that, he didn't create enough turnovers to really excite me beyond that.
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                  • georgiafan
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                    #99
                    Re: 2024 NBA Draft

                    Someone wanna fill me in on why Atlanta may take a wing 1st overall that isn’t athletic and can’t shoot yet
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                    • ojandpizza
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                      #100
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                      I’m definitely not seeing the Sarr hype and I still have no idea what makes Clingan a top 5 pick candidate.

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                      • Yeah...THAT Guy
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                        #101
                        Re: 2024 NBA Draft

                        Originally posted by georgiafan
                        Someone wanna fill me in on why Atlanta may take a wing 1st overall that isn’t athletic and can’t shoot yet
                        If you’re referring to Risacher, anyone taking him that high believes he’s currently a good shooter. It’s the main thing he offers as a player right now.

                        And while he’s definitely not a great athlete, I think he’s an okay one. Don’t really care about his Combine numbers; he just got done playing an NBA length season and didn’t have any time to practice for the Combine drills like American prospects do.

                        The main issue with him is he hasn’t really even shown flashes of doing anything with the ball in his hands. His French club pretty much solely used him as a spot up shooter and team defender, which makes it fairly easy to project him helping a team quickly but also makes it really hard to believe in him as a high ceiling prospect.

                        He would not be my choice by any means. I think I ended up with him #4 on my board. But according to Givony at least, most NBA teams have him #1 on their boards and every NBA team expects Atlanta to take him.
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                        • jeebs9
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                          #102
                          Re: 2024 NBA Draft

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                          • illwill10
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                            • Mar 2009
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                            #103
                            Re: 2024 NBA Draft

                            I'm going to miss the first round and all the fireworks since I'll be on a plane. But, I'm looking forward to seeing some trades

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                            • georgiafan
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                              • Jul 2002
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                              #104
                              Re: 2024 NBA Draft

                              Trailblazers get avdija

                              Wizards get #14 tonight, brogdon, worst pick of two In 29 1st round, two 2nds
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                              • Yeah...THAT Guy
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                                #105
                                Re: 2024 NBA Draft

                                Originally posted by georgiafan
                                Trailblazers get avdija

                                Wizards get #14 tonight, brogdon, worst pick of two In 29 1st round, two 2nds
                                Technically it's the second best pick of three that they have in 2029. They have Celtics and Bucks 1st round picks that year in addition to their own, so based on current projections, you'd assume that'll be the Bucks or Blazers pick (but obviously a long ways off from 2029).
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