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  • ojandpizza
    Hall Of Fame
    • Apr 2011
    • 29806

    #151
    Re: 2024 NBA Draft

    Draft/combine coverage of Bronny isn’t justified for the caliber of player he is but we know why the coverage is there. When did anybody think the NBA would get a father son duo much less a player of LeBron’s caliber. A once in a lifetime thing, once in league history (so far) scenario.

    But as a player, never in my lifetime have people gotten so worked up over a 55th overall pick for what they averaged as freshman. Never in my lifetime has a top 25 HS recruit gotten injured/not played well as a freshman and then got hated on for declaring and getting drafted as one of the last picks anyways. People are never going to give up being so hypocritical over anything LeBron related I swear.

    Notable freshman stats:
    Jimmy Butler - 6/4/1
    Jrue Holiday - 8/4/2
    Divencenzo - 2/0.4/0.4
    Josh Hart - 8/4/1
    Brunson - 9/2/3
    Lillard - 12/4/3
    Reaves - 4/2/1
    FVV - 4/2/2
    Mikal Bridges - 6/3/1

    Got tired of looking lol. Obviously most of those guys came back and played more years. But Draymond made a decent point. Bronny has lots of traits to make a quality backup guard, and teams draft players in the top 10 all the time who won’t be ready for another 2-3 years anyways.. are people really doing this for a guy drafted 55th if it’s not LeBron’s kid? Teams draft guys in the lottery all the time who never even land a role, guys in the first round that they “stash” overseas and they never even come over to play a single NBA minute.

    Just so random to be up in arms over someone being drafted with one of the very last picks of the draft, especially considering where he ranked as a HS player, and the set backs he had his first year with the heart issues. Dude had Derrick Rose combine numbers, is considered to be able to pick up 94’ defensively, and is considered a high IQ unselfish player.

    Also not saying this directed at anyone here, just seen so much of this back and forth all over the internet.

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    • ggsimmonds
      Hall Of Fame
      • Jan 2009
      • 11235

      #152
      Re: 2024 NBA Draft

      Originally posted by ojandpizza
      People are never going to give up being so hypocritical over anything LeBron related I swear.
      Pick your battles better man. This isn't a smart battle to pick.
      Actually...you should probably sit this summer out and just concede it to the LeBron haters

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      • ojandpizza
        Hall Of Fame
        • Apr 2011
        • 29806

        #153
        Re: 2024 NBA Draft

        Originally posted by ggsimmonds
        Pick your battles better man. This isn't a smart battle to pick.
        Actually...you should probably sit this summer out and just concede it to the LeBron haters

        There isn’t even a battle to pick. At no other point in time has anybody gave enough ****s to argue about if a player picked 55th in a draft “deserved” to be picked or not until this pick lol.

        The Bucks just took a dude 23rd who was 25 spots behind Bronny as a recruit coming out of HS and averaged 2/1/1 in the NBL last year. But people are worried about if Bronny took a spot from a more deserving player at 55.

        Like how does Bron bother so many people to that magnitude. I’m trying to think of any human that I just have to come up with some anti-whoever rant every time he does something. Those people gotta be exhausted by this point, 20 years lol.

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        • King_B_Mack
          All Star
          • Jan 2009
          • 24450

          #154
          Re: 2024 NBA Draft

          Originally posted by ojandpizza
          Draft/combine coverage of Bronny isn’t justified for the caliber of player he is but we know why the coverage is there. When did anybody think the NBA would get a father son duo much less a player of LeBron’s caliber. A once in a lifetime thing, once in league history (so far) scenario.

          But as a player, never in my lifetime have people gotten so worked up over a 55th overall pick for what they averaged as freshman. Never in my lifetime has a top 25 HS recruit gotten injured/not played well as a freshman and then got hated on for declaring and getting drafted as one of the last picks anyways. People are never going to give up being so hypocritical over anything LeBron related I swear.

          Notable freshman stats:
          Jimmy Butler - 6/4/1
          Jrue Holiday - 8/4/2
          Divencenzo - 2/0.4/0.4
          Josh Hart - 8/4/1
          Brunson - 9/2/3
          Lillard - 12/4/3
          Reaves - 4/2/1
          FVV - 4/2/2
          Mikal Bridges - 6/3/1

          Got tired of looking lol. Obviously most of those guys came back and played more years. But Draymond made a decent point. Bronny has lots of traits to make a quality backup guard, and teams draft players in the top 10 all the time who won’t be ready for another 2-3 years anyways.. are people really doing this for a guy drafted 55th if it’s not LeBron’s kid?Teams draft guys in the lottery all the time who never even land a role, guys in the first round that they “stash” overseas and they never even come over to play a single NBA minute.

          Just so random to be up in arms over someone being drafted with one of the very last picks of the draft, especially considering where he ranked as a HS player, and the set backs he had his first year with the heart issues. Dude had Derrick Rose combine numbers, is considered to be able to pick up 94’ defensively, and is considered a high IQ unselfish player.

          Also not saying this directed at anyone here, just seen so much of this back and forth all over the internet.
          I mean…. Is the guy getting drafted 55th by the Lakers getting drafted there if he’s NOT LeBron’s kid? That question works both ways


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          • Majingir
            Moderator
            • Apr 2005
            • 47474

            #155
            Re: 2024 NBA Draft

            "Reports saying that LeBron has been sleeping with the mom of his newest Lakers teammate"

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            • georgiafan
              Hall Of Fame
              • Jul 2002
              • 11048

              #156
              Re: 2024 NBA Draft

              I'm far from someone that defends lebron. A lot of teams literally give away picks around #55 so I'm not going to trash a team that takes a player. The fact that it could motivate Lebron for a few more years alone prob makes the pick worth it. Also Giannis brother who has no business being a NBA player has been on the bucks for several years and nobody says anything about that
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              • Yeah...THAT Guy
                Once in a Lifetime Memory
                • Dec 2006
                • 17294

                #157
                Re: 2024 NBA Draft

                Originally posted by Scott
                Lesson: if you average 4.8 PPG, you too, can be a 2nd round draft pick.


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                The Bucks took a guy in the 1st round that averaged 2.8 PPG this year, no nepotism required.
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                • Yeah...THAT Guy
                  Once in a Lifetime Memory
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 17294

                  #158
                  Re: 2024 NBA Draft

                  Originally posted by ojandpizza
                  Draft/combine coverage of Bronny isn’t justified for the caliber of player he is but we know why the coverage is there. When did anybody think the NBA would get a father son duo much less a player of LeBron’s caliber. A once in a lifetime thing, once in league history (so far) scenario.

                  But as a player, never in my lifetime have people gotten so worked up over a 55th overall pick for what they averaged as freshman. Never in my lifetime has a top 25 HS recruit gotten injured/not played well as a freshman and then got hated on for declaring and getting drafted as one of the last picks anyways. People are never going to give up being so hypocritical over anything LeBron related I swear.

                  Notable freshman stats:
                  Jimmy Butler - 6/4/1
                  Jrue Holiday - 8/4/2
                  Divencenzo - 2/0.4/0.4
                  Josh Hart - 8/4/1
                  Brunson - 9/2/3
                  Lillard - 12/4/3
                  Reaves - 4/2/1
                  FVV - 4/2/2
                  Mikal Bridges - 6/3/1

                  Got tired of looking lol. Obviously most of those guys came back and played more years. But Draymond made a decent point. Bronny has lots of traits to make a quality backup guard, and teams draft players in the top 10 all the time who won’t be ready for another 2-3 years anyways.. are people really doing this for a guy drafted 55th if it’s not LeBron’s kid? Teams draft guys in the lottery all the time who never even land a role, guys in the first round that they “stash” overseas and they never even come over to play a single NBA minute.

                  Just so random to be up in arms over someone being drafted with one of the very last picks of the draft, especially considering where he ranked as a HS player, and the set backs he had his first year with the heart issues. Dude had Derrick Rose combine numbers, is considered to be able to pick up 94’ defensively, and is considered a high IQ unselfish player.

                  Also not saying this directed at anyone here, just seen so much of this back and forth all over the internet.
                  He's 6'1" with no PG skills and has shot it poorly going back to high school. These are not the traits that get unproductive guys drafted. Nepotism is rampant in the NBA; it's not really a big deal that a team used a late 2nd round pick on someone that shouldn't have been drafted. But that is pretty clearly what happened here; no need to try to legitimize him as a prospect.
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                  • ProfessaPackMan
                    Bamma
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 63852

                    #159
                    Re: 2024 NBA Draft

                    Originally posted by King_B_Mack
                    I mean…. Is the guy getting drafted 55th by the Lakers getting drafted there if he’s NOT LeBron’s kid? That question works both ways


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                    Right.

                    Bron getting his son drafted to his team doesn’t bother me. It’s cool to see because let’s be real…any other father would do the same thing. Nepotism is real always has been.

                    What IS hypocritical is seeing the same folks champion this be the same ones that throw the nepo card(in a negative light)at Giannis and his brother being on the team. This ain’t no different and I hope they(Bron Stans and if THIS part doesn’t apply to you, then let it fly)see that too.
                    #RespectTheCulture

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                    • ojandpizza
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Apr 2011
                      • 29806

                      #160
                      Re: 2024 NBA Draft

                      Originally posted by King_B_Mack
                      I mean…. Is the guy getting drafted 55th by the Lakers getting drafted there if he’s NOT LeBron’s kid? That question works both ways


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                      100% which is why I said the coverage of him as a prospect through this whole process isn't justifiable for the caliber of player he is.

                      I just think removing that part of it, you've got a top 20 recruit who was taken 55th overall despite not having a productive freshman year, possibly in part because of injury.. This isn't something people usually get all up in arms over.

                      Grown men actively hating on some dudes son throwing rants on the internet because they don't like his dad is weird behavior.
                      Last edited by ojandpizza; 06-28-2024, 11:35 AM.

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                      • Vni
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Sep 2011
                        • 14833

                        #161
                        Re: 2024 NBA Draft

                        What has been happening in Lakerland is pretty crazy. Father and son in the same team I can hardly process it.

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                        • Majingir
                          Moderator
                          • Apr 2005
                          • 47474

                          #162
                          Re: 2024 NBA Draft

                          Originally posted by Vni
                          What has been happening in Lakerland is pretty crazy. Father and son in the same team I can hardly process it.
                          We'll be getting those Gretzky brothers like stats for decades to come.

                          "LeBron and Bronny have the highest combined ___ totals by any father-son duo in NBA history."

                          LeBron accounts for 99% of it but who's counting.
                          Last edited by Majingir; 06-28-2024, 02:49 PM.

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                          • The 24th Letter
                            ERA
                            • Oct 2007
                            • 39373

                            #163
                            Re: 2024 NBA Draft

                            Kind of knew everyone would all the sudden be up in arms about the 55th pick in the draft.

                            Maybe the Lakers could have gotten a Patty Mills, best 55th pick of all time, but it is what it is.

                            Woj. summed up my thoughts the best though



                            Give me all the nepotism.

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                            • DamnYanks2
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Jun 2007
                              • 20794

                              #164
                              Re: 2024 NBA Draft

                              Weird draft. I didn't watch but kept up with it. The No 1 pick has to be one of the most boring picks ever. Not sure there's an elite player in here.

                              Liked the Wolves picks. Dillingham and Shannon are high energy players. Dilly is an absolute bucket. Shannon lacks polish but he's perfect for the Wolves style He has a high motor. And the Wolves greatly increased their depth with these two.

                              Jazz getting Collier was likely a steal. He shouldn't of fell that far. Played in the shadow of Boogie Ellis at USC even though Collier is better.

                              Lakers getting Knecht might be my favorite pick in the draft seriously. He's more then a shooter. He's polished and he makes an impact. LeBron is gonna love him. Who cares if he's older. He might be the best scorer in the draft.

                              Edey was my second favorite pick. He improved so much in college. And he has stamina for a guy that size. He and Ja could be lethal in a pick and roll. He's massive. And I think he'll develop a middy in time because he's gotta sweet ft stroke. He just didn't have to shoot jumpers at Purdue because he just bullied everyone.

                              Kolek was an absolute steal for the Knicks. Smart player. Great passer. Can shoot. Loved that late round pick.
                              Last edited by DamnYanks2; 06-28-2024, 02:54 PM.

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                              • King_B_Mack
                                All Star
                                • Jan 2009
                                • 24450

                                #165
                                Re: 2024 NBA Draft

                                Originally posted by georgiafan
                                I'm far from someone that defends lebron. A lot of teams literally give away picks around #55 so I'm not going to trash a team that takes a player. The fact that it could motivate Lebron for a few more years alone prob makes the pick worth it. Also Giannis brother who has no business being a NBA player has been on the bucks for several years and nobody says anything about that
                                Originally posted by The 24th Letter
                                Kind of knew everyone would all the sudden be up in arms about the 55th pick in the draft.

                                Maybe the Lakers could have gotten a Patty Mills, best 55th pick of all time, but it is what it is.

                                Woj. summed up my thoughts the best though



                                Give me all the nepotism.
                                Here's what blows my mind about these particular kind of takes on this topic.

                                First, why we gotta sit here and pretend like people haven't talked **** about Giannis' NBA talentless brothers for years just to make this situation okay?

                                Second I keep seeing this nonsense about the NBA being full of nepotism and I saw a clown on Twitter yesterday literally have a whole thread of nepotism in sports starting with the Dallas Cowboys and Jerry's crew over there just to defend Bron and this situation and my question to that (nevermind the fact that those people are far more qualified for the jobs they have than Bronny is for the one he just got, but I digress) is simple. What are we actually doing here? How are we really trying to compare apples to hand grenades here? Someone can correct me if I'm wrong here cause I legit don't remember, but how is Giannis' brother signing with the Bucks as a free agent or Jerry Jones hiring his family to work for his team even in the same realm as LeBron & Rich Paul conspiring (we know he got that skill on lock already) to make sure that 24 other teams ahead of the Lakers in the draft don't decide they want to take a flier with their 2nd round pick on Bronny turning into his dad by threatening to go overseas if they draft him?

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