2024 NBA Draft

[ProfessaPackMan]

2024 NBA Draft

I'm only bothered by it in so far as I don't want to hear LeBron say he isn't pressuring his son or that he wants him to be his own man. I saw a quote by AD that said "its clear Bronny wants to be his own man and not in the shadow of his dad" and that doesn't check out.



The nepotism angle doesn't bother me one way or the other. I don't believe the take that Bronny "stole" someone's spot who is more deserving. I wouldn't have an issue with LeBron saying if Bronny was available he wants the Lakers to pick him. What I do take issue with (but its small) is the LeBron camp "engineering" this (this is the key) but the LeBron camp playing like thats not exactly what they did

Exactly.


I just want him to acknowledge the pull he has, that’s all. It’s like he wants us to know he has major pull/influence in this league but doesn’t want folks to believe he had anything to do with anything, which is what folks are tired of. He’s been at this going on 20 years and still thinks we’re oblivious and so do his fans.

Its not LeBron hypocrisy though. Across every sport its the same -- anything involving the superstars gets blown up.

Look at the Eli Manning situation. That was over 20 years ago and there are folks still talking about how that was messed up to this day lol.

Nepotism is the act of granting an advantage, privilege, or position to relatives or friends in an occupation or field. It’s as simple as that. It has happened long before Bronny, it will happen long after.

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Nepotism is the act of granting an *unfair* advantage, privilege, or position to relatives or friends in an occupation or field.

The word, by definition, has always been a negative and the act has never been considered a good thing(Austin/Doc Rivers, the Dunleavys to use other examples)and always gotten criticized.

Again, I have no problem with Lebron using his pull. I just wish for folks to be honest about the situation lol. Now, aside from that, I do think the “fair” question to ask is if this is the best situation for him?

[ProfessaPackMan]

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[King_B_Mack]

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Exactly.


I just want him to acknowledge the pull he has, that’s all. It’s like he wants us to know he has major pull/influence in this league but doesn’t want folks to believe he had anything to do with anything, which is what folks are tired of. He’s been at this going on 20 years and still thinks we’re oblivious and so do his fans.



Look at the Eli Manning situation. That was over 20 years ago and there are folks still talking about how that was messed up to this day lol.

We can go even more recent. Deion & Shedeur Sanders. Dude hasn’t even finished his college career yet, he’s a significantly better player than Bronny and people been making a big deal about his name.

It’s just hilarious to me that as usual when it comes to LeKing unless you’re praising him and whatever he’s got going on then it’s time to start clutching pearls about how he’s being treated. Austin Rivers has been getting **** on and clowned for a decade for nepotism and he isn’t even remotely close to a star, so why exactly would a situation for a star of Bron’s caliber not be talked about?


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[The 24th Letter]

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Lmao a international player that’s already under contract to 2 teams overseas that’s clearly being drafted as a draft and stash is the same scenario as an American kid’s agent telling all the teams ahead of his preferred spot in the draft to not draft him so he can make it to that spot otherwise he’s gonna leave the country to find a team to play with is definitely the same thing. Sure thing, I’ll go ahead and “move these goal posts” [emoji849]


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Yep, as always. Can provide American examples from as recent as last year, but it’d be the same. Rich Paul really is a super agent with all these groundbreaking practices he’s using for the first time in history, lol

Exactly.


I just want him to acknowledge the pull he has, that’s all. It’s like he wants us to know he has major pull/influence in this league but doesn’t want folks to believe he had anything to do with anything, which is what folks are tired of. He’s been at this going on 20 years and still thinks we’re oblivious and so do his fans.



Look at the Eli Manning situation. That was over 20 years ago and there are folks still talking about how that was messed up to this day lol.



Nepotism is the act of granting an *unfair* advantage, privilege, or position to relatives or friends in an occupation or field.

The word, by definition, has always been a negative and the act has never been considered a good thing(Austin/Doc Rivers, the Dunleavys to use other examples)and always gotten criticized.

Again, I have no problem with Lebron using his pull. I just wish for folks to be honest about the situation lol. Now, aside from that, I do think the “fair” question to ask is if this is the best situation for him?

What I posted was the actual definition.
Genuinely curious as to where the “Unfair” version of the definition came from, or was that your add?

Nepotism has been a big topic among our community in particular. (There’s actually pretty good a song on the 2K soundtrack addressing it) Goes deeper than “good or bad”….but that’s another topic.

I don’t have an issue with Bron using his resources to help his son, just like I don’t with Dame getting his cousin (who somehow had a worse ppg than Bronny) half a mil. I also don’t think they have to hold a press conference stating that they have pull or that they don’t want the best for the people they helped. They’re playing the same game that’s been being played. That’s a crazy take to me. The Buss family owes a generational acknowledgment if that’s the case lol.


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[ggsimmonds]

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Come on 24, no one is saying we want LeBron to hold a press conference to announce "I did that."

You know at some point in the upcoming season there is going to be a sitdown interview with LeBron and Bronny and LeBron is going to talk about draft night as if he had no idea what was going to happen and we will collectively roll our eyes. Thats what we are talking about.

Same way they tried to push the narrative that LeBron kept his distance during the coach search and JJ wasn't his hire.

Its just tiring to keep hearing LeBron say "I just play basketball, I leave the coaching/front office decision to the guys that get paid for that" knowing damn well thats a lie.

Edit: Nepotism isn't always bad or unfair though. LeBron making Rich Paul his agent was textbook nepotism and thats not a bad thing at all.

[The 24th Letter]

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Come on 24, no one is saying we want LeBron to hold a press conference to announce "I did that."

You know at some point in the upcoming season there is going to be a sitdown interview with LeBron and Bronny and LeBron is going to talk about draft night as if he had no idea what was going to happen and we will collectively roll our eyes. Thats what we are talking about.

Same way they tried to push the narrative that LeBron kept his distance during the coach search and JJ wasn't his hire.

Its just tiring to keep hearing LeBron say "I just play basketball, I leave the coaching/front office decision to the guys that get paid for that" knowing damn well thats a lie.

Edit: Nepotism isn't always bad or unfair though. LeBron making Rich Paul his agent was textbook nepotism and thats not a bad thing at all.

If anyone thinks LeBron isn’t involved in these decisions they’re kidding themselves. I also feel like that’s the case around the league when it comes to superstars though, and outside of Kawhi admitting he wasn’t joining the Clips unless PG was coming (which he also got a fine for) I don’t feel like players are just openly and honestly talking about their involvement behind the scenes like that.

If that’s something that bothers you in regards to LeBron though, I get that.

I think that’s separate from saying his son can’t be his own man because he used his resources to put him in a good spot to succeed.

[ggsimmonds]

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If anyone thinks LeBron isn’t involved in these decisions they’re kidding themselves. I also feel like that’s the case around the league when it comes to superstars though, and outside of Kawhi admitting he wasn’t joining the Clips unless PG was coming (which he also got a fine for) I don’t feel like players are just openly and honestly talking about their involvement behind the scenes like that.

If that’s something that bothers you in regards to LeBron though, I get that.

I think that’s separate from saying his son can’t be his own man because he used his resources to put him in a good spot to succeed.

Did he put him in a good spot to succeed or did he put him in a spot so the two of them can make history by playing together?

[dubcity]

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Did he put him in a good spot to succeed or did he put him in a spot so the two of them can make history by playing together?

Playing with his dad could very well be the ceiling of Bronny's professional basketball success.

[The 24th Letter]

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Did he put him in a good spot to succeed or did he put him in a spot so the two of them can make history by playing together?

I’d say so, He’s in the NBA. I think like any good dad, his goal is for him to succeed.

Whether he ends up getting in the way of that success is another story.


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[ProfessaPackMan]

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What I posted was the actual definition.
Genuinely curious as to where the “Unfair” version of the definition came from, or was that your add?

Nepotism has been a big topic among our community in particular. (There’s actually pretty good a song on the 2K soundtrack addressing it) Goes deeper than “good or bad”….but that’s another topic.

I also don’t think they have to hold a press conference stating that they have pull or that they don’t want the best for the people they helped. They’re playing the same game that’s been being played. That’s a crazy take to me. The Buss family owes a generational acknowledgment if that’s the case lol.


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1. Collins Dictionary. But doing more searching on the definition led me to different worded meanings.

2. Our community is very dishonest about Nepotism, especially depending on where it’s been a factor lol. The ones that say it’s a good thing are usually the ones that have benefitted from it.

3. EYE didn’t say they needed a press conference and everything else lol. I said EYE rather see him acknowledge the pull he does have and that WE know he has instead of the whole “Man, I don’t have nothing to do with nothing” act. He has no problem talking his **** about being the GOAT and being so influential any other time but wanna plead the fif in this instance. And I only say this because we’ve had/heard other players basically say “Yeah, I have some pull around here BUT it’s still the GM/Owner’s call” and these were from lesser talented players lol

And yes, I’m aware it’ll never happen, again I’m just saying what I would prefer.

Playing with his dad could very well be the ceiling of Bronny's professional basketball success.

You saying Bronny need to start practicing on his Chinese in the next 3/4 years? [emoji102]

[ProfessaPackMan]

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[ggsimmonds]

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I’d say so, He’s in the NBA. I think like any good dad, his goal is for him to succeed.

Whether he ends up getting in the way of that success is another story.


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Making it to the NBA likely isn't Bronny's final condition for success; so I was speaking on being in a position to succeed in the NBA. Are the Lakers the team to put him in the best position for that?

I do wonder if the best path to succeed for Bronny would be another full year of college ball. But LeBron is at an age where one injury could sunset him, and he has said publicly his goal was to play with his son, so its not outlandish to wonder if that took priority.

Ultimately its impossible for any of us to know so it was largely rhetorical

[Gotmadskillzson]

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My problem with it is 2 things:

1. The disrespect he did for not working out for any teams other than the Lakers. That was mad disrespectful and arrogant.

2. LeBron not acknowledging that he is basically the GM of the team. Got his friend hired as the coach and his own son drafted to the team.

Also if people going to hate on Coach Prime for doing the same thing for his sons, then they should be hating on LeBron for doing the same thing. And on another note, Dwayne Wade son never got drafted years ago and is now playing in Africa in the African League.

Far as how good of an NBA player he will be ? Who knows. He might end up the next Austin Rivers, who like Bronny, ended up working with his dad and that didn't help him at all. I just want to see how LeBron going to act when his son get hard fouled, because you know it is going to happen.

[J_Posse]

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My problem with it is 2 things:

1. The disrespect he did for not working out for any teams other than the Lakers. That was mad disrespectful and arrogant.

2. LeBron not acknowledging that he is basically the GM of the team. Got his friend hired as the coach and his own son drafted to the team.

Also if people going to hate on Coach Prime for doing the same thing for his sons, then they should be hating on LeBron for doing the same thing. And on another note, Dwayne Wade son never got drafted years ago and is now playing in Africa in the African League.

Far as how good of an NBA player he will be ? Who knows. He might end up the next Austin Rivers, who like Bronny, ended up working with his dad and that didn't help him at all. I just want to see how LeBron going to act when his son get hard fouled, because you know it is going to happen.

I don't like how LeBron, Rich Paul, and Bronny went about things either, but your first point was probably orchestrated by Clutch Sports (LeBron/Rich).

I'm sure that his dad and Clutch made a lot of moves to engineer Bronny to the Lakers. At the cost of the young man's 'reputation' but that won't matter until LeBron retires.

I think Flash was angling for Zaire to play on the Jazz (he was on the G-League team for a year or two), but he never showed enough talent to warrant even a dress rehearsal (10 - day or two - way).

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[King_B_Mack]

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Yep, as always. Can provide American examples from as recent as last year, but it’d be the same. Rich Paul really is a super agent with all these groundbreaking practices he’s using for the first time in history, lol

Brother I didn't say this was the first time in history of an agent doing shady stuff so you can stop that there. I don't even know what we're really arguing at this point. We basically eye rolled the way Bronny was orchestrated to LA and commented how lame it, along with the people orchestrating it pretending like they had no clue things were happening the way they orchestrated it and somehow it warranted discussion that we shouldn't voice that we think it's lame or whatever because nepotism is a thing already. That's like getting mad cause a cop caught you blowing a stop sign that other people also blow all the time. Like, okay some other dude did the illegal thing, but I saw you so you gonna get this ticket.

I don’t have an issue with Bron using his resources to help his son, just like I don’t with Dame getting his cousin (who somehow had a worse ppg than Bronny) half a mil. I also don’t think they have to hold a press conference stating that they have pull or that they don’t want the best for the people they helped. They’re playing the same game that’s been being played. That’s a crazy take to me. The Buss family owes a generational acknowledgment if that’s the case lol.


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If it was as simple as using his resources to help his son it might not be as big of a deal as it's been (by LeBron/megastar standards anyway) but simply "using his resources to help his son" would be Bron using his status in the league to get his son with UDFA talent level drafted in the second round who otherwise might not have considered using a pick on him. Helping him get a little extra change on his UDFA contract with some team right after the draft. What happened was LeBron helping himself get his dream of playing alongside his son and not have to take a paycut going to some other team and leave LA to do so.