2024 NBA Draft

[l3ulvl]

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What's the trade value difference between Trae and Cade if its a 1 for 1?

like if they were swapped for each other? no clue, I did the Meta AI question and it basically said Detroit would have to give up Cade, Stew and 2 firsts for Trae and AJ Griffin to make things work. Other than that, I got nothin, and I doubt Detroit wants anything to do with that scenario


AI says Cade value 17, Trae value 22 (approx), idunno where they get these numbers, but they can't figure where Detroit's picks will end up next year when one lands #1 (as long as Detroit doesn't own it)

[Majingir]

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Sounds like Bronny is picking specific teams to work out for and that's it.

For a guy not even projected 1st round, you'd think he'd be open to playing anywhere.

Wonder if this is really him choosing or LeBron doing the reverse of what people thought (instead of LeBron signing wherever Bronny gets drafted, LeBron has already chosen where he wants to go and gets Bronny drafted there).

[ojandpizza]

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Sounds like Bronny is picking specific teams to work out for and that's it.

For a guy not even projected 1st round, you'd think he'd be open to playing anywhere.

Wonder if this is really him choosing or LeBron doing the reverse of what people thought (instead of LeBron signing wherever Bronny gets drafted, LeBron has already chosen where he wants to go and gets Bronny drafted there).

Think this has been pretty standard process the last few years. I know Austin Reaves had literally told teams to not draft him.

I feel like Bronny most likely has promises from teams either late in the first, early in the second, or he wants to go the unstaffed route like guys have been doing the past few years.

I feel like Bron does want to play with him, but part of me wonders if that’s next season or in 2-3 years after Bron signs one more big 1+1 or 2+1 deal with LAL.

If there is any truth to Lakers, Suns, or a team like Philly who’s been linked to Bron getting Bronny and by default getting Bron included it makes sense not only for win-now purposes but also for money purposes.

[ojandpizza]

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Haven’t kept up with this craft class much because on the surface it seems horrible. Not just top tier talent or “sure things” but even quality role players deep down the draft. I’m sure some guys will shock us and end up nice, but it seems ugly for now..

Doing a bit of homework to catch myself up this French kid (not Sarr) looks pretty nasty. Sarr’s size is intriguing as is every moderately athletic big in every draft but just basing it on what little highlights I’ve been able to see Risacher looks really promising.

I have no clue how Clingan is a top 5 pick. I just don’t see it. And if he’s rising so high because they are champs would he not also be prone to falling for giving up 37 and 10 to his matchup who isn’t even mocked to be a lottery pick? On top of that his draft measurements were trash.

Castle, Dillingham, Sheppard, McCain, Williams, Knecht, all are obviously good but they just remind me really lower tier role players. Most those guys are freshman so there is much growth to be had, but none of them just scream star potential to me. Going to be an odd draft. I’d be so tempted to trade down or for future picks.

[J_Posse]

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Haven’t kept up with this craft class much because on the surface it seems horrible. Not just top tier talent or “sure things” but even quality role players deep down the draft. I’m sure some guys will shock us and end up nice, but it seems ugly for now..

Doing a bit of homework to catch myself up this French kid (not Sarr) looks pretty nasty. Sarr’s size is intriguing as is every moderately athletic big in every draft but just basing it on what little highlights I’ve been able to see Risacher looks really promising.

I have no clue how Clingan is a top 5 pick. I just don’t see it. And if he’s rising so high because they are champs would he not also be prone to falling for giving up 37 and 10 to his matchup who isn’t even mocked to be a lottery pick? On top of that his draft measurements were trash.

Castle, Dillingham, Sheppard, McCain, Williams, Knecht, all are obviously good but they just remind me really lower tier role players. Most those guys are freshman so there is much growth to be had, but none of them just scream star potential to me. Going to be an odd draft. I’d be so tempted to trade down or for future picks.

True, but these types of 'weak' or 'bad' drafts is where your scouting and development can prevail, unearthing a HOF caliber career/player.

Tony Parker & Pau Gasol in 2001 (with guys with solid careers like Okur, Arenas, Gerald Wallace) while Giannis in the '13 draft.

We'd be lucky to see two let alone one HOF'er in this class, but I'm sure people said that those two years too.

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[Majingir]

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True, but these types of 'weak' or 'bad' drafts is where your scouting and development can prevail, unearthing a HOF caliber career/player.

Tony Parker & Pau Gasol in 2001 (with guys with solid careers like Okur, Arenas, Gerald Wallace) while Giannis in the '13 draft.

We'd be lucky to see two let alone one HOF'er in this class, but I'm sure people said that those two years too.

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That's why "bad drafts" don't always mean a huge amount.

Everyone's scared of a 2000 draft again when they hear bad draft, but that's probably the worst one you can have.

Even that 2013 one you mentioned, a starting lineup of Giannis, Gobert, Adams, CJ and someone like Oladipo (if we look at this class in their peak seasons) would be a real good tean.

We can talk about 2024 being a bad draft, and in 5 years people will be like "____ went 19th overall? 18 teams could've gotten him and now he's an all star. "

[ojandpizza]

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That's why "bad drafts" don't always mean a huge amount.

Everyone's scared of a 2000 draft again when they hear bad draft, but that's probably the worst one you can have.

Even that 2013 one you mentioned, a starting lineup of Giannis, Gobert, Adams, CJ and someone like Oladipo (if we look at this class in their peak seasons) would be a real good tean.

We can talk about 2024 being a bad draft, and in 5 years people will be like "____ went 19th overall? 18 teams could've gotten him and now he's an all star. "

The problem isn't really having zero talent, I'm sure good players will come from any class. The problem is being one of those 18 teams mentioned because there is no "sure" talent presenting itself as an obvious choice.

I'd trade my pick unless a draft workout blew me away or a trusted scout is telling me one of these dudes is a stud. Just wouldn't be the draft I'd want to mess with.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Whenever I see folks say “Bad Draft”, I automatically assume they just mean from a name standpoint lol.

Folks acting like the last 23 Draft Classes have been amazing and this one is the exception for whatever reason. Also doesn’t help that folks damn near look ahead to draft classes 3-4 years down the line especially with how you can watch AAU highlights of 12 year olds and start making projections off of that.

[Majingir]

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The top 4 of the 2022 class was so hyped. It was "Cade 1st, Mobley and the Jalens after".

Those guys have turned into good players so far, but you could argue Scottie has been the best player from that class so far and he wasn't part of the 4 (and Raptors got bad "draft grades" for the pick)

And injuries can change everything too. Someone like OG goes from a lottery pick to late 1st because of injury concerns, and he turned into a top 10 player from that class.

Or Zion and all the hype he got, when healthy he's great, but him and Ja both having injuries and other issues, that changes a lot.

And don't get me started on the Greg Oden "next big thing" hype.

[ojandpizza]

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Whenever I see folks say “Bad Draft”, I automatically assume they just mean from a name standpoint lol.

I wouldn't say it's about names, but more so that almost all of the top projected picks are foreign players who aren't Wemby, Luka, etc, and the American players are almost all Freshman who weren't overly outstanding freshman.

The only exceptions in the projected lottery is Clighan who was decent at best in college but followed that up with absolute trash combine numbers. And Knecht who is a senior and his draft comp is Max Strus. The top prospects draft comps are guys like Jonathan Isaac, Goran Dragic, Lou Williams, etc..

I'm not saying it's a "bad draft" in terms of there will be no good players. There are almost always good players to be had, and that's how we end up with picks like Kawhi, Giannis, Joker who everyone slept on.. But there is just nobody exciting at the top of the draft, nobody that looks like a sure thing. Seems like a terrible draft to have a high pick because almost everyone is an uncertainty, and because of that the trade value is also lower than normal.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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I wouldn't say it's about names, but more so that almost all of the top projected picks are foreign players who aren't Wemby, Luka, etc, and the American players are almost all Freshman who weren't overly outstanding freshman.

The only exceptions in the projected lottery is Clighan who was decent at best in college but followed that up with absolute trash combine numbers. And Knecht who is a senior and his draft comp is Max Strus. The top prospects draft comps are guys like Jonathan Isaac, Goran Dragic, Lou Williams, etc..

I'm not saying it's a "bad draft" in terms of there will be no good players. There are almost always good players to be had, and that's how we end up with picks like Kawhi, Giannis, Joker who everyone slept on.. But there is just nobody exciting at the top of the draft, nobody that looks like a sure thing. Seems like a terrible draft to have a high pick because almost everyone is an uncertainty, and because of that the trade value is also lower than normal.

Nobody flashy basically.

And if you don’t watch College Hoops religiously, which most people don’t nowadays, I can see how folks come to the conclusion that it’s a bad draft.

[dubcity]

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If only we had a long list of players who weren't hyped up coming out of college/HS, but ended up being of HoF quality. And if only we had an even longer list of obvious high picks that look incredibly dumb now.

[JazzMan]

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Apparently Stephon Castle was declining workouts with teams that don't need a point guard

Gimme that Castle/Keyonte George backcourt asap lol

[illwill10]

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4pm on a Thursday is a weird time for a weekday.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Only hope is Bronny is still around by then and even that may not be enough lol