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  • georgiafan
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    • Jul 2002
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    #61
    Re: 2024 NBA Draft

    Originally posted by illwill10
    What path do you think Atl should take? I'd do a reset, but doesn’t have to be a complete rebuild. Especially since they will have a lot of money on the books. I think they should at least trade Trae, Capela, probably can get some value for Bogdanovic, and Hunter. I think Murray, Johnson, and Sarr is a good core to build on, just need to surround them with shooters.
    If I'm the GM and making the calls I'm seeing what offers I get for Trae. I think getting the #1 pick allows you time to run it back with Trae and Murray. However I would pick Murray over Trae when you look at the big picture of contract + assets you are getting back.

    As much as I hate on Trae, you can't just give him away which is what twitter wants you to do. Thats because you don't control your pick for the next 3 years. Spurs are the obvious fit for a trade both for him or the #1 pick, but I think they are going to tank one more year. I'm not sure what team is giving you three quality 1st plus one young starter so I'll assume this means Trae will be back. Maybe OKC or something with Giddy as the player or Orlando.

    It's time for Capella to go and he has no trade value going into the final year of his deal. In reality The owners would give me a demand to get under the luxury tax so I would see if someone wants to take him for a few 2nds and this gets.

    Bogdanovich's value will not be any higher at 32 coming off a good year. Someone will offer you something for him so I move him for some much needed defense help

    As far as the pick I would look to trade it see if you can get 4+ something for the spurs. Would Detroit be willing to give up Cade or Houston with 3+ picks. I would look to come out of this draft with Castle as wing defense or offense player like Sheppard or Kinect is desperately needed then a big like Clingman. I'm not counting on a 19 year old Sarr saving the franchise or being a real difference make for a few years

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    • JazzMan
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      • Feb 2012
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      #62
      Re: 2024 NBA Draft

      Originally posted by Majingir
      Raptors dropped to 8th and now don't even have a 1st.....
      Lucky! I wish the Jazz dropped to 11 or 12 so our pick would go to OKC this year instead of next year. Not a huge fan of this class aside from Stephon Castle
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      • georgiafan
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        • Jul 2002
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        #63
        Re: 2024 NBA Draft

        Edey is officially faster then Clingan and can jump higher also he played the whole game without sitting out
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        • ojandpizza
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          #64
          Re: 2024 NBA Draft

          Originally posted by georgiafan
          Edey is officially faster then Clingan and can jump higher he played the whole game without sitting out
          So odd to me that Clingan has climbed so high in mocks..

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          • georgiafan
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            • Jul 2002
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            #65
            Re: 2024 NBA Draft

            Apparently Edey is also top 5 in 3's at the combine also. All I've heard was Edey wouldn't work in the NBA because he isn't athletic enough and yet does better then Clingan. A 31 inch vert for a 7'4 guy is pretty good for me

            Originally posted by ojandpizza
            So odd to me that Clingan has climbed so high in mocks..
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            • Majingir
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              • Apr 2005
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              #66
              Re: 2024 NBA Draft

              Originally posted by JazzMan
              Lucky! I wish the Jazz dropped to 11 or 12 so our pick would go to OKC this year instead of next year. Not a huge fan of this class aside from Stephon Castle
              Will be one of those moves critiqued now, and people in 5 years will be like "if we kept that pick we could've gotten(insert best player in the draft who got taken outside the top 10)", as if that's how it works.

              The thing about the Raptors that's tricky, they could easily be a lottery team or a playoff team next year, so could a late lottery pick next year be better than an early one this year?

              This team played a total of 14 games with Barnes, Quickley, RJ together and went 7-7. Small sample size, but their current roster is much better than a 25 win team. Not that they'll sign some huge FA, but they spend 160m on salaries this year and have 105m committed so far with only Quickley and maybe Trent to re-sign, so they could go out and add a depth piece to push them into a .500+ team, which would be nearly a 20 game turnaround from the prior year.

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              • ProfessaPackMan
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                • Mar 2008
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                #67
                Re: 2024 NBA Draft

                Originally posted by dubcity
                Is it the worst draft or is there just not a hyped up #1 overall? Impossible to know how it will turn out.
                It’s definitely the latter, lol.

                If there’s no “name” then folks will automatically think it’s the worst draft ever. And we know group think is a powerful drug so it doesn’t take much for it to spread to the people who don’t pay much attention to College Hoops.

                Kinda funny how the Nets are now gifting another franchise a top 4 pick after a big name trade failed on them again. You’d think they would learn their lesson but apparently not [emoji23]

                As for Atlanta, they’re not really in a position to blow it up and wait for next year especially when the chance of them getting another top 5 pick aren’t going to be that high to begin with. Hell, look at what happened with the Pistons lol. Best bet is to use the pick, take who they think is the best player on the board, figure out a decision with Dejounte and Trae. They’ve got some good pieces on the roster so they don’t really need a full rebuild to get back into the middle of the pack in the East.
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                • Majingir
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                  • Apr 2005
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                  #68
                  Re: 2024 NBA Draft

                  Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
                  It’s definitely the latter, lol.

                  If there’s no “name” then folks will automatically think it’s the worst draft ever. And we know group think is a powerful drug so it doesn’t take much for it to spread to the people who don’t pay much attention to College Hoops.

                  Kinda funny how the Nets are now gifting another franchise a top 4 pick after a big name trade failed on them again. You’d think they would learn their lesson but apparently not [emoji23]

                  As for Atlanta, they’re not really in a position to blow it up and wait for next year especially when the chance of them getting another top 5 pick aren’t going to be that high to begin with. Hell, look at what happened with the Pistons lol. Best bet is to use the pick, take who they think is the best player on the board, figure out a decision with Dejounte and Trae. They’ve got some good pieces on the roster so they don’t really need a full rebuild to get back into the middle of the pack in the East.
                  At the same time, when was the last time the #1 pick wasn't fairly known as the #1 pick going in?

                  2017? 2013? Or am I misremembering drafts?

                  It'll take a lot to top 2000 though.

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                  • l3ulvl
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                    #69
                    Re: 2024 NBA Draft

                    yeah pistons can't win for tanking or trying

                    tank for Wemby, finish with worst record, get 5th pick

                    ok this time we'll try, lets hire the most expensive coach ever and try to make a run...

                    worst record again

                    5th pick again

                    oof
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                    • Yeah...THAT Guy
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                      • Dec 2006
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                      #70
                      Re: 2024 NBA Draft

                      Originally posted by dubcity
                      Is it the worst draft or is there just not a hyped up #1 overall? Impossible to know how it will turn out.
                      Could be both? The latter is definitely true, but when you have projected top 5 picks being compared to guys like Bones Hyland, Roy Hibbert, Michael Porter, etc., it's not great.

                      I'm sure as always there will be some guys that end up being better than expected (probably not a Giannis level guy, but the 2013 draft was much maligned), 1998 draft gave us Vince Carter, Paul Pierce, Dirk, etc. You get the idea.

                      Having said that, it feels like the guys vying for the #1 pick in this year's draft could turn out to be solid bench pieces and nobody would be too shocked. Like Sarr is the presumed #1 pick at the moment and people aren't sure if he's strong enough to play C or skilled enough to play PF.

                      Holland is probably the guy that I would have at the top of my draft board right now and I'm not really sure how he should even be used on the offensive end right now. Risacher might be #2 in my eyes and his numbers around the rim are some of the worst you'll ever see for a 6'10"+ guy and he has pretty much zero creation abilities right now.

                      I heard Russillo talking about the draft and he was saying the teams he's talked to said that in terms of value, the #1 overall pick this year is probably worth like the #4 or #5 starter on a good team; like a Terrance Mann or Cam Johnson caliber player. I can't imagine Atlanta would actually make a trade like that because the optics of trading the #1 overall pick for a decent role player would just be so atrocious, but yeah, this draft is considered to be incredibly weak.
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                      • georgiafan
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                        #71
                        Re: 2024 NBA Draft

                        Do you think this means they make win now moves or try it one more time with Flag coming next year?

                        Originally posted by l3ulvl
                        yeah pistons can't win for tanking or trying

                        tank for Wemby, finish with worst record, get 5th pick

                        ok this time we'll try, lets hire the most expensive coach ever and try to make a run...

                        worst record again

                        5th pick again

                        oof
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                        • l3ulvl
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                          #72
                          Re: 2024 NBA Draft

                          Originally posted by georgiafan
                          Do you think this means they make win now moves or try it one more time with Flag coming next year?

                          My guess is Detroit probly just goes after Sheppard from Kentucky, but considering how poorly Ivey and Cade work together, wouldn't shock me if they were the team to make the Trae trade. If they can keep Cade somehow, that's a pretty decent backcourt, but I doubt ATL would be cool with just Ivey, the 5th, and who knows how many other picks/pieces
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                          • georgiafan
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                            #73
                            Re: 2024 NBA Draft

                            Originally posted by l3ulvl
                            My guess is Detroit probly just goes after Sheppard from Kentucky, but considering how poorly Ivey and Cade work together, wouldn't shock me if they were the team to make the Trae trade. If they can keep Cade somehow, that's a pretty decent backcourt, but I doubt ATL would be cool with just Ivey, the 5th, and who knows how many other picks/pieces
                            I think that will be the holdup on a Detroit/ Atlanta trade. Atlanta would want to get Cade and keep Trae which isn't really possible unless its for the #1 pick and Murray. I dont see Ivey and Trae working together as a starting duo.
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                            • l3ulvl
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                              #74
                              Re: 2024 NBA Draft

                              Originally posted by georgiafan
                              I think that will be the holdup on a Detroit/ Atlanta trade. Atlanta would want to get Cade and keep Trae which isn't really possible unless its for the #1 pick and Murray. I dont see Ivey and Trae working together as a starting duo.

                              I was thinking the holdup would be ATL wanting to move Trae and Capela together and Detroit not really having the contracts other than Stew to make numbers work, especially after moving Bojan. I'm kinda surprised the mindset from the other side is to keep Trae. I was thinking it's like "we're better without him, we got the top pick, perfect time to trade him and Capela and capitalize"


                              edit: I didn't realize we were both trying to get a Cade/Trae backcourt lol no wonder these deals never work
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                              • georgiafan
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                                #75
                                Re: 2024 NBA Draft

                                What's the trade value difference between Trae and Cade if its a 1 for 1?

                                Originally posted by l3ulvl
                                I was thinking the holdup would be ATL wanting to move Trae and Capela together and Detroit not really having the contracts other than Stew to make numbers work, especially after moving Bojan. I'm kinda surprised the mindset from the other side is to keep Trae. I was thinking it's like "we're better without him, we got the top pick, perfect time to trade him and Capela and capitalize"


                                edit: I didn't realize we were both trying to get a Cade/Trae backcourt lol no wonder these deals never work
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