2024 Offseason Thread

[ProfessaPackMan]

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https://x.com/esidery/status/1794391...yvf4Q-cog&s=19

Looks like Nets might do a rebuild. I can see that. It feels like Mitchell is likely doing signing the extension. If the Rockets are still willing to offer back Brooklyn their picks in exchange for Bridges and some of the Suns picks, I can see that happening

They haven’t given a signal as to what they’re going to do. Even with these comments, they’re still all over the place especially when you consider Marks comments from a few months ago.

Folks still trying to push them into trading Bridges for whatever reason.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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I understand there is some merit to building slow, building organically, and all that. But I'm not playing the long, slow, maybe game with this team..

IDK what that looks like until we get closer to the off-season and see what other teams are doing, but I'm just not wild about hoping some 19 year old kid wants to accept a secondary role to Wemby and understand how to embrace that role and making winning plays early on.

In regard to these 2 statements, why not?

What is about what they’re doing as a franchise that makes you skeptical/unsure?

Or is it more about not wasting his years and getting him into the playoffs faster?

[ojandpizza]

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In regard to these 2 statements, why not?

What is about what they’re doing as a franchise that makes you skeptical/unsure?

Or is it more about not wasting his years and getting him into the playoffs faster?

I think Wemby is advanced enough to help a playoff team now, with a major role. And I just feel getting him in that environment early makes more sense than hoping they draft the right kids and 7 years from now a couple of them develop into what they hoped they would become.. Especially with how easily players can leave, and given Pop's likely short window.

Also I'm not saying they need to trade away every young asset and pick they have for superstars to try and win now, I'm thinking more of a middle ground. Improve the roster to where it's much more competitive than it was last year, keep as many young pieces and picks during that process as you can to build.

[ojandpizza]

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Part of it Pack is seeing how the LeBron situation played out as well.. the young piece they drafted before that was supposed to help “build” them (Wagner) was injured/bust. The Carlos Boozer contract situation, not that any team will be that stupid again but players now bounce or ask for trades all the time. And then the Cavs draft after LeBron, they only had a pick in ‘04 not ‘05 but they took Luke Jackson 10th who was an absolute bust also. And after that 2nd year they were in the playoffs and no longer drafting at the top of drafts hoping to land promising young pieces. So basically from the jump they were ****ed as far as acquiring young talent to build with Bron, and left them overpaying for 6th man types like Mo Williams hoping to get something close to a co-star out of that, and hanging on to aging guys like Big Z because it’s the only other above average player they had on the roster organically.

Not that the same will happen with San Antonio, and they have a proven track record of finding and developing talent. But in a hypothetical situation let’s say this draft is a total bust, Johnson gets hurt and he’s basically done, Vassell demands a trade and he’s out, and then by next year or after they are good enough to be stuck out of the lottery but have to overachieve to hope to actually contend like the Cavs did.. it’s just a bad spot to be in. The trade chips you have at that point are marginal because they aren’t top picks, and you don’t have the talent to send out for a star.

There is enough player movement now to feel somewhat confident that a max player would want to come play with Wemby willingly as a free agent, or a team wants to just clean house, but it’s still a tough spot to be in. And always a chance that max player is more so a role player stuck in a spot above where he should be, say paying FVV $41m, then they are stuck in that same Mo Williams situation as the Cavs were.

I just feel confident that Wemby is THE guy. You’ve already hit the home run. Get some talent around him while you have some assets, it can still be moderately young talent. And keep as many developing players and picks as you can during that process.

[illwill10]

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[ProfessaPackMan]

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What’s the difference between this and when Nash got hired?

[illwill10]

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What’s the difference between this and when Nash got hired?

I guess LeBron.

[dubcity]

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We're just making a mockery of the position at this point. Not that that's a new thing, I guess.

[illwill10]

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I can get not understand not wanting to go the Retread HC route, but they are a team that has expectations that are moving on from an inexperienced coach for someone who's even more inexperienced. I guess feel like there are guys who can't get an opportunity like Sam Cassell

I guess that leaves just Cavs and I think Atkinson is the frontrunner

[ProfessaPackMan]

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I guess LeBron.

I mean we had KD and Kyrie and we all remember the reaction the Nets got when they hired Nash.

I don’t imagine the Lakers will get that same treatment but other than one having a podcast, it’s not much different at all lol.

[illwill10]

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I mean we had KD and Kyrie and we all remember the reaction the Nets got when they hired Nash.

I don’t imagine the Lakers will get that same treatment but other than one having a podcast, it’s not much different at all lol.

It's not. Didn't Kyrie say something like "We're all the Head coach" lol.

Regardless of what LeBron saying, no way JJ is a legit candidate without the Podcast.

[J_Posse]

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What’s the difference between this and when Nash got hired?

And that proved to be an absolute disaster.

Unrelated to your team, but it's crazy that a guy doing a podcast (possibly) gets a job before Sam Cassell.

Are they gonna wait until he's an old man to finally give him an opportunity?

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[illwill10]

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And that proved to be an absolute disaster.

Unrelated to your team, but it's crazy that a guy doing a podcast gets a job before Sam Cassell.

Are they gonna wait until he's an old man to finally give him an opportunity?

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I was mentioned that with Sam Cassell. He was well received in Philly. Part of the reason, he went to Boston was to get from under Doc. That's not a shot at Doc, but sometimes when you're under someone for so long, it's hard to get noticed.

It feels like for Cassell, his best bet is being in a situation where he becomes an interim HC in a season and earning it. For coaches like him, it's seems like there's always a young coach with buzz or Retread HC in the way.

[Master Live 013]

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I just love it for the takes, and if the Lakers get to a slow start, oh boy Basically, let's watch it all burn.

[Master Live 013]

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Like, I have never listened to 1 minute of his podcast, he can't be that good? Like, is he like Romo calling plays pre-snap and all that? The more I think about it, the more I like it It has the potential to fail so spectacularly.