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  • ProfessaPackMan
    Bamma
    • Mar 2008
    • 63852

    #91
    Re: 2024 Offseason Thread

    Originally posted by King_B_Mack
    Nah this can’t be the real quote from Shams. Pat Riley, Spo and Kerr comps? Really?




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    • King_B_Mack
      All Star
      • Jan 2009
      • 24450

      #92
      Re: 2024 Offseason Thread

      Originally posted by ojandpizza
      Idk that Giddey is worse value than a lottery pick though. He’s a top 6 pick himself and has already proven he’s not going to be on the “bust” side of that coin. He was 17/8/6 last year at 20 years old before sliding back a bit to a lesser role with Chet coming on board.. and he’s proven to flourish in both, scale up the more usage of needed and can likely flirt with 20 a night triple-double output, scale back if needed and plays a role. I think he checks a lot of boxes.

      I just don’t get it when White, Zach, Lonzo (if he’s back) and DeRozan in the half court all play with the ball. What’s Giddey’s role in that? He’s not a spot up shooter, he’s not even a great shooter to begin with. His strengths look more like a Lamar Odom, Hedo type where he’s part of your additional playmaking and ball handling.
      Zach won't be here next year, Lonzo you can't count on at all at this point. DeMar? I honestly don't know if he'll be back or not. I don't know what this team is or really aspires to be honestly. I just know I'm tired of half rebuilds and missing out on moving guys and getting meaningful returns for them to actually build the team correctly.

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      • ggsimmonds
        Hall Of Fame
        • Jan 2009
        • 11235

        #93
        Re: 2024 Offseason Thread

        Originally posted by King_B_Mack
        Zach won't be here next year, Lonzo you can't count on at all at this point. DeMar? I honestly don't know if he'll be back or not. I don't know what this team is or really aspires to be honestly. I just know I'm tired of half rebuilds and missing out on moving guys and getting meaningful returns for them to actually build the team correctly.
        Are you thinking this is the kind of deal you make to stay right in the zone of mediocrity that the Bulls seem so fond of

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        • ojandpizza
          Hall Of Fame
          • Apr 2011
          • 29807

          #94
          Re: 2024 Offseason Thread

          Originally posted by King_B_Mack
          Zach won't be here next year, Lonzo you can't count on at all at this point. DeMar? I honestly don't know if he'll be back or not. I don't know what this team is or really aspires to be honestly. I just know I'm tired of half rebuilds and missing out on moving guys and getting meaningful returns for them to actually build the team correctly.


          Originally posted by ggsimmonds
          Are you thinking this is the kind of deal you make to stay right in the zone of mediocrity that the Bulls seem so fond of


          I wasn’t thinking from this angle. Like if Giddey being a solid player makes them suck less then they would otherwise. He and White and whoever else overachieve and then you’re in that awkward stage of never being good because those guys aren’t going to be superstars but possibly overachieve enough to pull you out of top 5 pick contention or something.

          Regardless trading such an impactful defender seems like a head scratcher. Caruso will fit on any team in the league, I feel like Giddey you almost want to know what the rest of your roster is going to look Iike first. I could see him doing well with San Antonio for example as like a more potential younger Osman role. Or to Philly to play that Tobias Harris role but as a better “connector” on the floor. It just feels like Chicago has a lot of moves coming.

          I always thought the play was for OKC to use some picks to upgrade the lineup and move Giddey to 6th man. He can effectively sub any spot 1-4 for them. And they likely could have still gotten Carsuo with money + picks and done that if he was the guy they liked.

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          • dubcity
            Hall Of Fame
            • May 2012
            • 17874

            #95
            Re: 2024 Offseason Thread

            They make it seem like Riley went straight from the broadcast booth to head coach. He was an assistant for years before becoming a head coach. But whatever. We know what this going to be.

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            • King_B_Mack
              All Star
              • Jan 2009
              • 24450

              #96
              2024 Offseason Thread

              Originally posted by ggsimmonds
              Are you thinking this is the kind of deal you make to stay right in the zone of mediocrity that the Bulls seem so fond of

              I guess it depends on what else they do this offseason, but based on franchise history and Jerry’s meddling I would say that’s exactly where this is heading.

              My fear is that we’re just scapegoating Zach, move him for a crap return after they’ve sunk his value, overpay DeMar and run it back like Giddey is the difference. We still owe SA our pick next year but I’m pretty sure it’s top 10 protected. If I’m not mistaken next years class is better than this year. Reports I’ve been seeing are saying they want to move up this year so they’re about to burn some more future picks yet they never make trades to acquire more picks because the goal is always making sure fans are in the UC while avoiding the luxury tax at the same time. It’s maddening. This feels like a pivot point where we should probably trying to bottom out to keep next year’s pick while trying to acquire future picks that you can use to move up drafts if you want or use to land stars. This shouldn’t be as hard as they make it


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              • Yeah...THAT Guy
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                • Dec 2006
                • 17294

                #97
                Re: 2024 Offseason Thread

                Originally posted by King_B_Mack
                I guess it depends on what else they do this offseason, but based on franchise history and Jerry’s meddling I would say that’s exactly where this is heading.

                My fear is that we’re just scapegoating Zach, move him for a crap return after they’ve sunk his value, overpay DeMar and run it back like Giddey is the difference. We still owe SA our pick next year but I’m pretty sure it’s top 10 protected. If I’m not mistaken next years class is better than this year. Reports I’ve been seeing are saying they want to move up this year so they’re about to burn some more future picks yet they never make trades to acquire more picks because the goal is always making sure fans are in the UC while avoiding the luxury tax at the same time. It’s maddening. This feels like a pivot point where we should probably trying to bottom out to keep next year’s pick while trying to acquire future picks that you can use to move up drafts if you want or use to land stars. This shouldn’t be as hard as they make it


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                • phenom1990
                  MVP
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 4789

                  #98
                  Re: 2024 Offseason Thread

                  Originally posted by King_B_Mack
                  Nah this can’t be the real quote from Shams. Pat Riley, Spo and Kerr comps? Really?




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                  Shams does PR for certain groups and agencies and in return he gets “scoops” and other info.

                  Woj did the same thing for Hurley so he could get more money out of UConn ( Woj wrote a book on his dad). Woj made it seem like the Lakers tried to get somebody “better” than Redick so that the Lakers could save face for hiring Redick. Woj in return gets info and scoops from the Lakers front office.

                  They’re both doing the same thing but for different parties.
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                  • Majingir
                    Moderator
                    • Apr 2005
                    • 47579

                    #99
                    Re: 2024 Offseason Thread

                    Raptors sign Scottie Barnes to 5 year max rookie extension.

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                    • illwill10
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 19822

                      #100
                      Re: 2024 Offseason Thread


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                      • ProfessaPackMan
                        Bamma
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 63852

                        #101
                        Re: 2024 Offseason Thread

                        I’m glad they finally picked a direction because all this “Let’s wait for the next star to request a trade and hope they want to come to the Nets” stuff was always silly.

                        Would’ve rather traded him to Houston to get our picks back but **** it.
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                        • Majingir
                          Moderator
                          • Apr 2005
                          • 47579

                          #102
                          Re: 2024 Offseason Thread

                          4 firsts for 2 years of Bridges?

                          Does this impact Knicks odds of keeping OG?
                          Last edited by Majingir; 06-25-2024, 09:14 PM.

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                          • georgiafan
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 11097

                            #103
                            Re: 2024 Offseason Thread

                            At the surface seems like a good move for both as nets can rebuild with a clean slate and bridges value wasn’t getting any better. The unprotected always scares you, but the bridges is a great fit and they haven’t been this good in my life

                            It sounds like NY will need to dump some salary to bring back OG and the Isaiah

                            The nets also made another draft pick deal with Houston
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                            • illwill10
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 19822

                              #104
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                              • King_B_Mack
                                All Star
                                • Jan 2009
                                • 24450

                                #105
                                Re: 2024 Offseason Thread

                                Damn 4 unprotected picks? We’ll see how this goes


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