Official Indiana Pacers Thread

[travis72]

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Something is wrong in the Locker room.

And what im seeing in Granger's Body Language isnt good. He can still play and is still a Pippen but he's really just going thru the motions in that last game. He's not attacking the basket at all. Just shooting threes. No step in mid range and no post up.
The team looks like the team that played the evening that O'Brian got ejected.
Reports of team dissention are over the webs.
I a big Granger fan but im coming to grips that despite being the "leader" of this team, he's not qualified to right the ship and keep the kids in line.

Handsbrough has been the only constant during this slump.

Apparently Stevenson is immature. And there is no one who can "mentor" him, since everybody is still young besides Foster & Posey.

The body language of Granger and pretty much the whole team seems not right, other than Tyler no one seems to give a ****. I don't know where he will fall in the draft this year but I would like to see Jimmer Fredette a Pacer. I also would not mine seeing Tyler's brother Ben a Pacer as well. This team needs some toughness to it. Both of those guys would add a outside threat to open the middle up and Ben would add toughness. I'm thinking we need to improve at Center as well. I like Roy but need to add some strength there as a scoring threat. Foster is been a great team player and brings toughness but he lacks offensive skills so it like playing 4 against 5 on offense when he is in the game.

I thought when the Pacers drafted Lance that he would be a great addition, but I am not so sure. For one I have no use for a person who beats a woman so I lost all respect for him anyway but I think he has a bad attitude and willingness to learn from someone will be difficult for him. He is just one of those worthless bumbs with athletic ability that will never amount to anything IMO.

[BATMON]

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I think ur being to hard on Lance. But i find it wierd that they drafted him when theyve been trying to get guts without any extra issues.

[travis72]

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I think ur being to hard on Lance. But i find it wierd that they drafted him when theyve been trying to get guts without any extra issues.

I just don't have any respect for a man that beats woman. I am surprised Bird gave him a second chance after that incident. Probably felt like he did not have much choice financially and could use as trade bait later on since they don't really have much in the way of trade bait.

Another lose to a ****ty team. Playoffs are looking bleaker every game they play. I sure hop they get this worked out and can make the playoffs but I am starting to worry, we got some tough teams coming up in the schedule.

[z Revis]

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Embarrassing loss. Embarrassing stretch of losses. Just embarrassing and pathetic. Absolutely no reason we should lose to these teams. And yet.. we still hold the 8th seed.

[BATMON]

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At least I saw a different Granger out there last night. He was attcking the basket.
And thats a good thing.

My faith is restored.

[travis72]

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At least I saw a different Granger out there last night. He was attcking the basket.
And thats a good thing.

My faith is restored.

Yeah I felt Granger went back to attacking the basket, hope he continues to do that. I hope they get this thing back on track. When this team is clicking they can play with anyone.

[BATMON]

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Yeah I felt Granger went back to attacking the basket, hope he continues to do that. I hope they get this thing back on track. When this team is clicking they can play with anyone.

Yeah....last night they did have the same slow start but they never gave up and and least made it a game in the second half.

I wouldnt mind seeing Granger play some PF.

Handsbrough - C
Granger - PF
George - SF
Jones - SG
Stevenson - PG

for a "quick" line up. Collison is faster but he dribbles too much.

[pw_1016]

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Yeah....last night they did have the same slow start but they never gave up and and least made it a game in the second half.

I wouldnt mind seeing Granger play some PF.

Handsbrough - C
Granger - PF
George - SF
Jones - SG
Stevenson - PG

for a "quick" line up. Collison is faster but he dribbles too much.

I think if Danny were more aggressive, which he seems to be getting there, he could play the 4. Collison dribbles the air out of the ball . Personally, I would like to see a Ford/Jones guard combo....and why not start McRoberts at center? sounds good to me!

[BATMON]

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Granger has played some 4 in the past and its not his natural position, but for small ball i wouldnt mind.

[BATMON]

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YES!.."...................

[z Revis]

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We can't beat the T-Wolves or Raptors at home, but we can beat the Knicks at MSG without Granger?

Hansbrough with another great game too.

[pw_1016]

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We can't beat the T-Wolves or Raptors at home, but we can beat the Knicks at MSG without Granger?

Hansbrough with another great game too.

Dohntay Jones really stepped up, thats why! Hansborough plays with so much fierceness. Im not really a fan of the guy but he gets better every game..

[travis72]

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After beating the Knicks without Granger makes me think maybe Granger's the problem,lol/jk. I will say that if this team does not turn things around I could see Granger being considered in a trade. Granger seems to struggle defensively at times with lack of effort imo. I'm not a big Dahntay jones fan but he does play D and I would not mind seeing Vogel pull Granger after some defensive lapses in favor of D. Jones just to let Granger know your going to play defense. He also at times shoots to many jumpers and I would bench him when he starts that crap. He plays much better when he attacks and takes 3's thru the flow of the offense. I have always been a Granger fan but have grown a little tired of in inconsistency. It would help if we got more consistency and better play from Hibbert and the shooting guard spot thou for Granger. This team has a lot of talent but does not always play to the potential or abilities. Maybe getting a Defensive minded hard nose coach in the off season will get these guys focus. I wonder if Larry Brown would come back to Indiana to get this team going if they called.

[BATMON]

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Granger isnt the problem at all.

[travis72]

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Granger isnt the problem at all.

Easy to say after tonight winning jumper,lol. I don't think Granger's the problem on this team. He needs help from some consistent 2 guard play and at the center position. I was up screaming when Granger let Melo score so easy and I said to myself OK you let him score now return the damn favor and win this game, and he did to my surprise. Granger D at tomes is what upsets me with him. He's a very good player but could be great if he would play better defense. Hopefully they got things turned around now and get back to playing good basketball.