Official Boston Celtics Thread

[jeremym480]

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I'm kind of sick about this trade honestly. When it first broke they were saying it was for IT, Crowder, Zizic and "picks" I was like okay, maybe I like this. However, when they said it was for Brooklyn's pick all of that changed and I hated it.

Losing IT sucks, especially after all he's done for the team and all that he's been through. But I can understand it as a business decision. It's really all going to come down to the Brooklyn picks. The difference between IT and Kyrie is less than Crowder (who has the best non-rookie contract in the league), Zizic (who has a lot of potential) and likely a Top 4-5 pick (which will probably be Bagley, Porter, Ayton, or Bamba).

I think, if the Brooklyn pick is Top 4, then Cleveland made themselves better/deeper this season and in the future and it's a A+ trade for them. For us, it's hard to say.... I'm excited about having Kyrie but I'm going to miss IT, Crowder and the nightly Nets watch that I've been used to the last two seasons. I hope I'm wrong and Stevens makes Kyrie even better but for now I'm not that happy with this deal.

[tonybologna]

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I'm kind of sick about this trade honestly. When it first broke they were saying it was for IT, Crowder, Zizic and "picks" I was like okay, maybe I like this. However, when they said it was for Brooklyn's pick all of that changed and I hated it.

Losing IT sucks, especially after all he's done for the team and all that he's been through. But I can understand it as a business decision. It's really all going to come down to the Brooklyn picks. The difference between IT and Kyrie is less than Crowder (who has the best non-rookie contract in the league), Zizic (who has a lot of potential) and likely a Top 4-5 pick (which will probably be Bagley, Porter, Ayton, or Bamba).

I think, if the Brooklyn pick is Top 4, then Cleveland made themselves better/deeper this season and in the future and it's a A+ trade for them. For us, it's hard to say.... I'm excited about having Kyrie but I'm going to miss IT, Crowder and the nightly Nets watch that I've been used to the last two seasons. I hope I'm wrong and Stevens makes Kyrie even better but for now I'm not that happy with this deal.

Amen brother! Not having IT to watch on the floor as a Celtics is gonna be tough getting used to because he had so much heart & determination. The Nets are going to end up giving the Cavs pretty much a lottery pick. However, if the Lakers get the 2nd-5th pick in the next draft we will get that pick. We can't forget that either. Right now though the Cavs are the big winners of this deal. Getting 4 players for one & that 4th player possibly being a lottery pick too.

I don't believe Danny is going to stop here now though. I see another trade/move coming before the start of training camp. We really need another solid type player after giving up all that we did. I was glad that Avery Bradley wasn't in on the deal though. At least we got to keep our best two way player on the team. Thanks.

[BleacherBum2310]

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my thoughts losing IT really sucks man forget the rest he gave it his all. Kyrie > IT2 and that impact really factors in the playoffs but I don't think he was that much better than IT2 you may call me not exactly a fan of Kyrie over time so not wanting to pay IT2 the max and the hip is a concern I totally get but was that really worth Jae Crowder and the Nets pick he refused to trade for so long.

C's really need Tatum and Jaylen Brown to play well now. I will say Smart is perfect guy next to Kyrie because of his defense and Kyrie's shooting Smart lack there of Shooting is less of an problem imo. Ainge has certainly earned the benefit of the doubt so I'm less upset but I'm looking forward to see how this looks over time.

[tonybologna]

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The hip issue with Isaiah is coming into play now. The Cavs are considering their options after IT's physical. Rumors are that the Cavs are going to ask for more compensation. Like asking for another draft pick or player. No way I would do that Danny. I would null the trade before giving up anymore picks/players. That would be fine with me anyhow.

I want IT to stay in Boston regardless of what the physical showed on his hip injury. It must be not healing right or the Cavs wouldn't have brought this up. That's scary for Isaiah too. He might not ever be the same type player again after that hip injury.

[Moses Shuttlesworth]

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Isaiah will be fine. It's overblown

[tonybologna]

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Isaiah will be fine. It's overblown

How do you know it's overblown? A Cavs dr. has examined IT & has concerns. So, no it's not overblown buddy. He's not healing like he should & nowhere near ready for rehab. That tells you something right there dude! The preseason isn't that far away either so no way IT will be ready for the season.

I see why the Cavs have concerns. I wouldn't care if the trade ends up null/void myself because I didn't like the 4 for 1 player trade anyhow as much as I like Kyrie too. Thanks.

Other Celtic News: http://www.scout.com/Bolt/Report-Cel...deal-106597941

[tonybologna]

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Our new Celtics: http://www.scout.com/ContentGallery/...ward-106751299

[tonybologna]

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Danny Ainge interview: http://www.espn.com/video/clip/_/id/20534745

Kyrie Irving on why he wanted to be traded: http://www.espn.com/video/clip/_/id/20531766

[tonybologna]

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http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/20608447/isaiah-thomas-trade-cleveland-cavaliers-hurts

I'm still hurt too Isaiah. Probably will never completely get over it. My favorite Celtic player just traded & vanished from the Celtics from out of nowhere. I guess my new favorite Celtic player will have to be either Avery Bradley or Jaylen Brown. However, I am still frustrated at Ainge for pulling the trigger on this deal.

[jeremym480]

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http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/2...avaliers-hurts

I'm still hurt too Isaiah. Probably will never completely get over it. My favorite Celtic player just traded & vanished from the Celtics from out of nowhere. I guess my new favorite Celtic player will have to be either Avery Bradley or Jaylen Brown. However, I am still frustrated at Ainge for pulling the trigger on this deal.

Ummmmm. You might want to sit down for a minute... then Google Avery Bradley.

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[tonybologna]

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Ummmmm. You might want to sit down for a minute... then Google Avery Bradley.

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Forgive me. Is he gone now through being an UFA? I haven't kept up with him like some other players contracts on the Celtics. You put in a smart like way though & that's not necessary either buddy. Just read that he's a Piston now. Happened on 07-07-17.

We had to do it in order to clear CAP space to get Hayward onboard. Sorry, I wasn't aware of this move by Ainge. I was thinking we got Morris just by the Pistons releasing him but it was through this Bradley trade. Thanks.

[jeremym480]

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Forgive me. Is he gone now through being an UFA? I haven't kept up with him like some other players contracts on the Celtics. You put in a smart like way though & that's not necessary either buddy. Just read that he's a Piston now. Happened on 07-07-17.

We had to do it in order to clear CAP space to get Hayward onboard. Sorry, I wasn't aware of this move by Ainge. I was thinking we got Morris just by the Pistons releasing him but it was through this Bradley trade. Thanks.

Tone is hard to read on the internet but I was saying that in a joking way, not in a mean way.

I'm definitely going to miss IT and Avery (if only the stupid Cavs could have won one more game in the Finals, then maybe AB wouldn't have been a cap causality ).

In the end, we basically traded: IT, Bradley, Crowder, Amir, Kelly O, Jerebko and Gerald Green for Kyrie, Hayward, Morris, Baynes and a bunch of rookies. That's a lot of changes, we only have four returning players and continuity will be an issue but I think we will be better in the long run, especially given IT and Bradley's contract situations. I loved last years team but can't wait to see what Brad can do with this new team.

[tonybologna]

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I personally don't think we will get the #1 seed in the Eastern Conference like we did last season. I think we're looking at #3 or #4 with so many changes. It will take Kyrie a while to gel with his new Celtic teammates along with Hayward as well.

I think the Cavs & at least the Wizards will be better than us in the East. Maybe even one of either the Raptors, Hawks, or Heat could be as well. If Kyrie comes in & adjust well along with Hayward then we can be a #2 seed by seasons end. I still don't think we beat last seasons record. I say we go something like 50-32 down to as low as 47-35.

[FerdBrown]

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Where's the Prelude impressions thread?

[CaseIH]

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I personally don't think we will get the #1 seed in the Eastern Conference like we did last season. I think we're looking at #3 or #4 with so many changes. It will take Kyrie a while to gel with his new Celtic teammates along with Hayward as well.

I think the Cavs & at least the Wizards will be better than us in the East. Maybe even one of either the Raptors, Hawks, or Heat could be as well. If Kyrie comes in & adjust well along with Hayward then we can be a #2 seed by seasons end. I still don't think we beat last seasons record. I say we go something like 50-32 down to as low as 47-35.

Pacers fan here, but Im a Hoosier 1st and foremost, so unless your name is Eric Gordon, I pull for you to do well,lol. So with Brad Stevens, and now Hayward being Celtics, Im pulling for them to win it all, although still will root for Pacers when they play Celtics, but it doesnt hurt as much when we do lose to them.
Most times when there is a big roster change, it does take time for teams to work kinks out, so Im sure they will have a learning curve. I dont think it will be quite as long of a learning curve as it might be for other teams, do to Brad Stevens. Brad has a way of getting the most out of the whatever the talent level he has to work with. Lets be honest when you best player is 5'9 at best, and you do as well as they did, with IT as their star, and a roster full of basically role players, thats not a knock on any of those guys either, as when I think of role player, I dont think garbage, I think of a guy who is talented, but fits whatever role you ask of him. Horford is pretty darn good, but I wouldnt call him a star by any means.
I think the big ? for the Celtics, is 1, how Kyrie fits in, if he thinks this is his team, and he is the Lebron if this team, he will be sadly mistaken, and that could cause chemistry issues. The other ? is can Kyrie stay healthy, this isnt a player who has been all that durable in his career.
Celtics no longer have their best 2 defenders, so that possibly could be a issue, although Brad Stevens has a way of getting guys to give effort on defense, and I do think that Brown kid, could be a very good wing defender, but the loss of Avery and Crowder will likely so up some especially early in the season. Gordon is a solid defender, and with the emergence of Jaylen Brown, along with Smart, they should be OK.
The ability is there for Kyrie to be a solid defender more so than with IT, but its the willingness to play defense is the issue, like James Harden, although I would say Kyrie does put more effort than Harden does,lol.

If Kyrie stays healthy and thats a big IF, I believe Boston could be the best team in the EC, and beat the Cavs. I fell Lebron is at the age, where if he has to fully carry the load night in and night out, all season long, then do it also come playoff time, his run of consective finals run will be over. Cavs now have no closer to go to outside of Lebron now, and with Lebron having to carry all the load, I think he will be wore down some come playoffs.

If I were a betting man, I would almost bet the farm on Boston vs Warriors finals this yr, with Warriors obviously winning it all, just to much talent on Warriors for any team to overcome unfortunately, if they are fully healthy that is.