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How much space would we need to clear for Ayton?Originally posted by G PericoIf I ain't got it, then I gotta take it
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Re: The 2022 New York Knicks: Kemba Comes Home
Don’t know but packaging all of these deals (Kemba, Burks, and Noel) into a 3-team S&T with Dallas would create a trade exception for the Knicks.
I don’t think they’re looking at Ayton though.
I would think they want another backcourt player.Comment
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Some rumors around Dejounte Murray's name but I'm not going to hold my breath. It would also be even more of a spacing nightmare.[NYK|DAL|VT]
A true MC, y'all doing them regular degular dance songs
You losin' your teeth, moving like using Kevin Durant comb
Royce da 5'9"
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We’re not in a position to trade any unprotected picks so that should be an automatic no. I’m mostly indifferent to the Brunson signing. If Leon somehow manages to trade Randle to the Mavs in a sign and trade that would move him up a notch in my book. That would put him at notch 1.
I expect Randle to bounce back at least some next season so Brunson-Fournier-RJ-Randle-Mitch with a IQ-Rose-Grimes-Obi-Sims bench isn’t the worst thing I’ve ever heard. I would rather we just have drafted Duren and tried to use some of those seconds to get out of last offseasons deals to bottom out. I’m still not really sure what the plan is other than Leon getting another of his sons clients paid, this time his own godson. I’m looking for a Dolan email address where I can file a complaint for this but can’t find one. It’s getting ridiculous.Originally posted by G PericoIf I ain't got it, then I gotta take it
I can't hide who I am, baby I'm a gangster
In the Rolls Royce, steppin' on a mink rug
The clique just a gang of bosses that linked upComment
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The 2022 New York Knicks: Kemba Comes Home
I wouldn’t mind making an offer to Nic Claxton of the Nets. We’re gonna need a 3rd center.Comment
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I'm skeptical that San Antonio would find someone that would give up 3+ unprotected picks. They might have to settle somewhere in the middle.
Regardless, I'm in the bargaining stage. Deep down I wish we would have done a full rebuild but the FO seems to be building a competitor, not a contender, with their finger hovering over the reset button.
The next 2-3 Free Agency classes are pretty underwhelming and unless we can hire more fathers, I don't see us getting any of the 2-3 big fish that those classes have.
CBA is up in 2 years with a mutual opt-out at the end of this upcoming season. One way or another, I'm sure big cap changes will be on the horizon and we'll see Randle and Brunson's contracts look more like starter-level deals and not star-level deals which I'm sure Leon is considering.
We also own Dallas's 2023 draft pick (top 10 protected) and them losing their second-best player *should* improve that pick.
I was thinking about how when we traded KP for DSJ, he was considered by some to be the best PG we've had since Marbury.Jalen Brunson is leaps and bounds beyond any PG to wear a Knicks jersey in the last decade.
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A true MC, y'all doing them regular degular dance songs
You losin' your teeth, moving like using Kevin Durant comb
Royce da 5'9"
Originally posted by DCAllAmericanHow many brothers fell victim to the skeet.........Comment
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I'm skeptical that San Antonio would find someone that would give up 3+ unprotected picks. They might have to settle somewhere in the middle.
Regardless, I'm in the bargaining stage. Deep down I wish we would have done a full rebuild but the FO seems to be building a competitor, not a contender, with their finger hovering over the reset button.
The next 2-3 Free Agency classes are pretty underwhelming and unless we can hire more fathers, I don't see us getting any of the 2-3 big fish that those classes have.
CBA is up in 2 years with a mutual opt-out at the end of this upcoming season. One way or another, I'm sure big cap changes will be on the horizon and we'll see Randle and Brunson's contracts look more like starter-level deals and not star-level deals which I'm sure Leon is considering.
We also own Dallas's 2023 draft pick (top 10 protected) and them losing their second-best player *should* improve that pick.
I was thinking about how when we traded KP for DSJ, he was considered by some to be the best PG we've had since Marbury.Jalen Brunson is leaps and bounds beyond any PG to wear a Knicks jersey in the last decade.
Basically that.
By seeing what they’re doing I’m starting to hope that they keep all of those 1st rounders regardless of when they convey.
Seems like they’ve finally woken up and realized that they can’t snag a big fish in free agency anymore so you overpay young talent to play hard and competitive ball hoping that one of your draft picks eventually blows up.Comment
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Didn't take 3+ unprotected picks. Hawks got DJ for Gallo and a handful of picks, some with protections. None in next year's "loaded" draft class.
Knicks could have easily attached 2 picks acquired during the draft, a lightly protected pick in 2024, a swap in '25. Plus Reddish or something.
We better be getting more than Brunson & a $10M+/yr Mitch.
This is unbelievable when you look at what it took ATL to get DJ.Comment
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I’m not giving all that up for Murray.
Unprotected picks and swaps? It’s gotta be someone on Dame’s level at a minimum.Comment
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Mitch at $15M/yr is the last signing.
Everything just feels incomplete.
PG – Brunson, Rose, McBride
SG – Fournier, Grimes, Quickley
SF – Barrett, Reddish
PF – Randle, Toppin
C – Robinson, Hartenstein, Sims
Plus up to 8 first round picks over the next five years (depending on conveyance)
I woulda moved three of those eight picks for DJ Murray & used some of the cap space on Bamba (a five who will get outta the way on offense). There's not enough outside threats in that starting 5 right now. Brunson won't have the spacing he enjoyed in DAL.
2nd unit might be interesting (yet again) with Rose, Quick, Reddish/Grimes (prob Grimes), Toppin, Hartenstein. But feels like there has to be something else in the works tho (some sort of trade); otherwise this is basically the same team: crowded, non-athletic/dynamic starting 5; exciting 2nd unit that will run & can build mini-leads/close the distance that the starters squander.Comment
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Re: The 2022 New York Knicks: Kemba Comes Home
Mitch at $15M/yr is the last signing.
Everything just feels incomplete.
PG – Brunson, Rose, McBride
SG – Fournier, Grimes, Quickley
SF – Barrett, Reddish
PF – Randle, Toppin
C – Robinson, Hartenstein, Sims
Plus up to 8 first round picks over the next five years (depending on conveyance)
I woulda moved three of those eight picks for DJ Murray & used some of the cap space on Bamba (a five who will get outta the way on offense). There's not enough outside threats in that starting 5 right now. Brunson won't have the spacing he enjoyed in DAL.
2nd unit might be interesting (yet again) with Rose, Quick, Reddish/Grimes (prob Grimes), Toppin, Hartenstein. But feels like there has to be something else in the works tho (some sort of trade); otherwise this is basically the same team: crowded, non-athletic/dynamic starting 5; exciting 2nd unit that will run & can build mini-leads/close the distance that the starters squander.
Agree about terrible spacing.
Disagree about Murray and Bamba.
With this team’s history, I’m not giving up unprotected 1st and pick swaps. And Bamba just got overpaid. Hartenstein can do everything (besides block shots) and better.
I don’t think another deal is coming.
My issue (besides Randle) is Fournier. He gives us spacing but that is absolutely it. I was hoping we’d be able to get a defensive wing somewhere but all we can hope for is Reddish and Grimes become that if they get minutes.
This is a low lottery team on paper that will upset the contenders every now and then. Hopefully with Brunson we’ve seen the very last of Point Randle.
RJ needs to take another leap but everything in me says he can’t do it.Comment
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Agree about terrible spacing.
Disagree about Murray and Bamba.
With this team’s history, I’m not giving up unprotected 1st and pick swaps. And Bamba just got overpaid. Hartenstein can do everything (besides block shots) and better.
I don’t think another deal is coming.
My issue (besides Randle) is Fournier. He gives us spacing but that is absolutely it. I was hoping we’d be able to get a defensive wing somewhere but all we can hope for is Reddish and Grimes become that if they get minutes.
This is a low lottery team on paper that will upset the contenders every now and then. Hopefully with Brunson we’ve seen the very last of Point Randle.
RJ needs to take another leap but everything in me says he can’t do it.
But, for $60M over 4 years, Mitch has to develop some type of scoring outside of 2' from the cup. Knicks don't have the creative finishers to score in a congested paint when he's hovering around the dunker's spot and dragging extra bodies in to camp the paint. Get ready for more mind-numbing half-court offense if not
Hoping the Knicks don't get those meaningless "oh wow where'd that come from?" wins this year. Effectively tank by not trying to tank in true Knicks fashion & improve our chances at either Victor Wembanyama or at least a top-4 pick for the next FO.Comment
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I'm fine without Murray at that price. 3 protected picks isn't better than what Atlanta offered anyway. Murray's a good player but he's not a franchise-altering player.
The way it is these days signing an All-Star/All-NBA caliber player outright is harder to do than trading for one. We at least continue to add pieces and picks to be able to do that if the opportunity does come.
[NYK|DAL|VT]
A true MC, y'all doing them regular degular dance songs
You losin' your teeth, moving like using Kevin Durant comb
Royce da 5'9"
Originally posted by DCAllAmericanHow many brothers fell victim to the skeet.........Comment
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Just to see where everyone’s head is at, where do we stand on including RJ for Onovan Mitchell? I am not a fan of bro but I’m also with BigEast in that I’m not really sure if there’s another step for RJ to take.
A lot depends on what the next RJ deal looks like. If we sign him now for what he’s worth (5/90-100) then he’s golden in my book. If he waits, we have to worry about someone overpaying to try to **** us, word to Jeremy Lin. But I’m also not sure he’s the guy you break the bank for when we see Ayton isn’t even getting a lot of love. Then there’s the third case where he shows out this year and proves himself worth the max or whatever, but that feels like a pipe dream, less than 1% chance kinda thing.Originally posted by G PericoIf I ain't got it, then I gotta take it
I can't hide who I am, baby I'm a gangster
In the Rolls Royce, steppin' on a mink rug
The clique just a gang of bosses that linked upComment
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