Button mashing gone from Fight Night Round 4!!

[Rawdeal28]

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I can't say much about the controls, but I will say that it was a better scheme than R3. I've never been a big button basher in the Fight Night series, but I was very impressed with the new configuration. I'm ready for the hazing, but I think buttons have no place in boxing games. Although I'm not opposed of having options, I think everyone should be on the same field, especially when playing online...

i totally agree. thats so last gen. im so glad they made it stick only.

this is funny because people criticsize(sp?) MLB: THE SHOW for using buttons and claim MLB2K is "Next-Gen" because they have stick controls. now people are complaining about FN.

Well here it comes!!! lol. Statements like this don't make sense. So back in the days when they only had one stick controllers do you mean that they should have never made a boxing game for those systems?

When I want to throw a jab there should be no confusion if I really wanted a jab or a hook. Buttons guarantee that. Sticks do not.

there is no confusion. its easy to throw a jab with the stick or a right hook. if u didnt know how to do both then really thats just ur problem.

now i can understand the confusion in FNR3 between a STUN KO and a FLASH PUNCH. all of that stupid winding up took to long to actually land the punch. i would get hit several times before ever finishing the motion. i hope they fixed that.

I agree. Just because you used buttons doesn't make you a button masher. And there are plenty of 'stick mashers' out there too.

truth is, there were way more "button mashers" than not so majority rules here.

[dbstanley74]

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If this is true I am going to have to buy round 4. I kept getting killed and wondered how the heck were my online opponents throwing punches so fast? well they were all button mashers. Kinda ruins online fights when you opponent throws punches faster with little or no punishment than sticks only.

Anyone complaining about sticks only just sucks at this game. Pure and simple. Sticks only is the only way to go. Fights actually go to decision from time to time. You have to vary your approaches and you can actually feint using the sticks if you are good. Not too mention you actually have to set up your combos instead of mashing buttons hoping to get lucky.

to the clown who was complaining about punch selection with the sticks. I can throw all punches from all angles with sticks only. Stick users have to get better defensively and that by default makes gameplay more realistic and enjoyable. Just my .02

[Darxide]

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Do this:

Load up FNR3. Throw a super basic jab/cross/hook using the sticks. Now, throw the same combination using the buttons. Which method comes out more fluidly and realistically? Now do each 20 times. Which method throws the desired combination more consistently?

Every stick user I've faced pretty much ignores advanced combination punching.

The sticks are too slow for hooks/uppercuts, and less accurate. It's not realistic at all. Hooking off the jab should come out fast- faster than what the sticks allow. What would be a better compromise would be to eliminate the curving motion all together. Stick left=left hook. Stick down-right=right uppercut.

[Rawdeal28]

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Do this:

Load up FNR3. Throw a super basic jab/cross/hook using the sticks. Now, throw the same combination using the buttons. Which method comes out more fluidly and realistically? Now do each 20 times. Which method throws the desired combination more consistently?

Every stick user I've faced pretty much ignores advanced combination punching.

The sticks are too slow for hooks/uppercuts, and less accurate. It's not realistic at all. Hooking off the jab should come out fast- faster than what the sticks allow. What would be a better compromise would be to eliminate the curving motion all together. Stick left=left hook. Stick down-right=right uppercut.

since its stick only this year im pretty sure they made it faster to do those things ur talking about.

[Darxide]

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since its stick only this year im pretty sure they made it faster to do those things ur talking about.

No, it's the same. I talked to Brizzo about it on community day. He actually did some on the spot tweaking while we were playing, and it was much improved, but still not as accurate or fluid as the buttons (he removed the delay caused by missing a punch). Sometimes when I wanted a hook, I'd get an upper. I shouldn't get counted because I "accidentally" threw the wrong punch. That doesn't make any sense, and isn't very realistic.

I think what you're going to see this year is a ton of jab/cross/body hook spammers. You won't see people hooking off the jab, or going cross/hook/cross or anything like that. Stick users seem content to throw jab/cross with the occasional single hook/uppercut. Get rid of the curving motions, and you'd see more realistic offense from people.

[Vast]

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No, it's the same. I talked to Brizzo about it on community day. He actually did some on the spot tweaking while we were playing, and it was much improved, but still not as accurate or fluid as the buttons (he removed the delay caused by missing a punch). Sometimes when I wanted a hook, I'd get an upper. I shouldn't get counted because I "accidentally" threw the wrong punch. That doesn't make any sense, and isn't very realistic.

I think what you're going to see this year is a ton of jab/cross/body hook spammers. You won't see people hooking off the jab, or going cross/hook/cross or anything like that. Stick users seem content to throw jab/cross with the occasional single hook/uppercut. Get rid of the curving motions, and you'd see more realistic offense from people.

i thought i read somewhere that this year you can hook to the body just by flicking the right stick to the right or something like that.

[BigTigLSU]

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The only to stop button mashing is to have an accurate punch fatigue system where the more you punch in a round the less affective your punches are

It should work progressively the more punches per round the longer the fight the more tired and weaker your punches become and it should also affect how fast your punches can be thrown

Boxers can punch them selves out and a fighter like Mike Tyson is not the same in the 8th round as he is in the first 4 rounds
Of course boxers with higher stamina should fair better than fighters with lower stamina.

[totalownership]

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there is no confusion. its easy to throw a jab with the stick or a right hook. if u didnt know how to do both then really thats just ur problem.

now i can understand the confusion in FNR3 between a STUN KO and a FLASH PUNCH. all of that stupid winding up took to long to actually land the punch. i would get hit several times before ever finishing the motion. i hope they fixed that.

I think you're the only who actually thought I was talking about me personally being confused with throwing a jab versus a hook. I think EVERYONE else knew that my statement was an allusion to a common problem with stick controls and their notorious reputation for being non-responsive. I didn't think I had to spell that out. If anyone else thought I was talking about myself please reply and say so. I'm just curious.

[oldskoolmaddenfanz27]

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This has gotten universally trashed so far on every blog ive been on

[Rawdeal28]

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No, it's the same. I talked to Brizzo about it on community day. He actually did some on the spot tweaking while we were playing, and it was much improved, but still not as accurate or fluid as the buttons (he removed the delay caused by missing a punch). Sometimes when I wanted a hook, I'd get an upper. I shouldn't get counted because I "accidentally" threw the wrong punch. That doesn't make any sense, and isn't very realistic.

I think what you're going to see this year is a ton of jab/cross/body hook spammers. You won't see people hooking off the jab, or going cross/hook/cross or anything like that. Stick users seem content to throw jab/cross with the occasional single hook/uppercut. Get rid of the curving motions, and you'd see more realistic offense from people.

i agree that sometimes its not as fluid as i would like but i know for a fact that if u practice u can throw some good combinations because i do that on Round 3. and it took a while for me to learn.

i thought i read somewhere that this year you can hook to the body just by flicking the right stick to the right or something like that.

i read that in an article as well.

I think you're the only who actually thought I was talking about me personally being confused with throwing a jab versus a hook. I think EVERYONE else knew that my statement was an allusion to a common problem with stick controls and their notorious reputation for being non-responsive. I didn't think I had to spell that out. If anyone else thought I was talking about myself please reply and say so. I'm just curious.

lol u said "I" man.

anyway, a jab and a hook are 2 different motions. u cant confuse the two. ur better off using a hook and a uppercut as ur example.

[Darxide]

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i agree that sometimes its not as fluid as i would like but i know for a fact that if u practice u can throw some good combinations because i do that on Round 3. and it took a while for me to learn.

While that's true, I can guarantee it isn't as fluid, fast or consistent.

If someone throws a right hand, you have a split second to counter with a left hook. Curving outward then up takes more than that split second, and god forbid you throw an uppercut instead.

While playing, I didn't understand why they didn't make the stick-flick for body punching for a regular hook. Ditching the curving motions would please everyone, I think.

[Pappy Knuckles]

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I never used the buttons so taking them out of the game wouldn't matter to me.

[Vast]

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While that's true, I can guarantee it isn't as fluid, fast or consistent.

If someone throws a right hand, you have a split second to counter with a left hook. Curving outward then up takes more than that split second, and god forbid you throw an uppercut instead.

While playing, I didn't understand why they didn't make the stick-flick for body punching for a regular hook. Ditching the curving motions would please everyone, I think.

Did you voice your concerns to them?? I mean you couldn't have been in a better place to do so.

[Darxide]

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Did you voice your concerns to them?? I mean you couldn't have been in a better place to do so.

I did, actually. I had a pretty in depth talk with Brizzo about it. The whole team generally felt that the using TPC allowed for a wider range of controls for a realistic experience, and they are working hard to tweak TPC. I think the best tweak would simply be to ditch the curving.

[BOSsTOwN]

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the stick to block and buttons to punch was always the best way to play.