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  • statum71
    MVP
    • Nov 2006
    • 1985

    #31
    Re: DLC to allow button punching

    Originally posted by Chairman7w
    I wonder how successful they will be with DLC fighters, when everybody's alread making them and uploading them.
    They will still be successful. Honestly, the creates aren't looking too good.

    Maybe a few. But most aren't.....

    I like my fighters spot on. Haven't seen a good Mayweather yet.
    The Lord is my shepard.

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    • M.I.M.L.
      Banned
      • May 2006
      • 330

      #32
      Re: DLC to allow button punching

      Originally posted by Swingking77
      Having buttons completly make the stick useless... You could always tell when a guy was using the buttons vs. the stick simply because they could throw like no one else... Insane combos that never ended and pin point hits... It takes more effort to throw with the stick. It takes more patience to learn how to throw with the stick. For once, the people at EA have made a game that rewards effort and timing in a SIM way, and now all the cheezers are crying about it... Frankly, buttons would simply kill the online game...
      Log online..................go ahead now log on, tell me how u feel after playing maybe 5 or 6 matches, make sure u play a high ranker

      then come back and edit your duck tale statement that u posted cuz u really have no idea of what ur talking about

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      • jvalverde88
        Moderator
        • Jun 2008
        • 11787

        #33
        Re: DLC to allow button punching

        Originally posted by Swingking77
        Having buttons completly make the stick useless... You could always tell when a guy was using the buttons vs. the stick simply because they could throw like no one else... Insane combos that never ended and pin point hits... It takes more effort to throw with the stick. It takes more patience to learn how to throw with the stick. For once, the people at EA have made a game that rewards effort and timing in a SIM way, and now all the cheezers are crying about it... Frankly, buttons would simply kill the online game...
        two words stick mashers. It doesn't matter if its with the stick or buttons, the non-sim players will always throw insane punches, go ahead play online and see what I'm talking about. There are a group of people out there that use buttons and don't throw a insane amount of punches. But leave buttons for offline and keep online strictly stick.
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        • goh
          Banned
          • Aug 2003
          • 20755

          #34
          Re: DLC to allow button punching

          Originally posted by bkfount
          didn't a ps3 game have to patch in new controls because people were complaining about them being awful? If the developers would simply put in multiple control schemes, they wouldn't even have to worry about this.
          Yup,that was Lair. You had to fly around with the sixaxis controls and there was no option for using the sticks.

          Originally posted by budsticky
          This is really my only issue with the stick control. I get the same problem of sometimes having my boxer throw more punches than I intend. Maybe I'm just not totally used to the system yet, but I'll often go for a quick jab and my guy will do like a 3 punch combo.

          I also sometimes have difficulty getting an uppercut to the head, the game often registers my input as a body uppercut.
          Same problem I was having in the demo.

          No one complained about the EA NHL because you really only need the stick to shoot or deke,there's not much to it. Comapring it to NHL 2K8 would be better where you have to hold or press 3 buttons to do basic things.

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          • sportyguyfl31
            MVP
            • Nov 2005
            • 4745

            #35
            Re: DLC to allow button punching

            adapt and overcome

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            • Trevelyan
              MVP
              • Oct 2003
              • 1047

              #36
              Re: DLC to allow button punching

              I've been reading this thread, and I understand the argument from people that think the stick controls are the way the game was meant to be played, but my question to you guys would be why do you support a developer removing features from a game? Its a control set, we're not talking about implementing an entirely new game mode.

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              • Holt82
                Rookie
                • Jun 2009
                • 43

                #37
                Re: DLC to allow button punching

                Originally posted by M.I.M.L.
                lol who and what are u dont respond to me for u are benath me, u also can look at the sig.
                Who am I? The one that corrects fools like you. I don't need to look at a thing. It's ok button boy, you got you're feelings hurt. It must be hard to master using a stick.

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                • theanswer34
                  Rookie
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 124

                  #38
                  Re: DLC to allow button punching

                  Originally posted by Holt82
                  Who am I? The one that corrects fools like you. I don't need to look at a thing. It's ok button boy, you got you're feelings hurt. It must be hard to master using a stick.

                  Man don't waste your time with this guy this the same person that said the game was gonna get 7.5 across the boards and when the game comes out everybody gonna be disappointed.
                  "I still have yet to accomplish what I've been trying to do from Day 1.”

                  - Allen Iverson

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                  • M.I.M.L.
                    Banned
                    • May 2006
                    • 330

                    #39
                    Re: DLC to allow button punching

                    Originally posted by Holt82
                    Who am I? The one that corrects fools like you. I don't need to look at a thing. It's ok button boy, you got you're feelings hurt. It must be hard to master using a stick.
                    actualy i am 21-2 online playing soley with pernell whitaker if u have xbox ur welcme to post ur gamer tag and i will beat some sense into u using the"stick" which i have "mastered" lol

                    so hows about it post up that tag or shut up, but of course u have ps3 right??????.............right.

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                    • ClickClickZoom
                      Rookie
                      • Apr 2009
                      • 46

                      #40
                      Re: DLC to allow button punching

                      I've always found this debate to be hilarious.

                      The only reason there are no button options this year is because the same people who are telling button users to stop crying, were the same guys who couldn't cut it on-line in Round 3 and screamed bloody murder about "button mashing". They tried rationlizing by saying button punching isn't realistic where as TPC mimicks real punching and makes the game more challening.

                      Bull droppings.

                      Listen, just because you swing a stick around in little semi-circles and flick it back and forth every now and again doesn't make it more realistic. The main gripe with the stick is that it isn't as accurate as button punching. With the stick, there are times when you intend to throw a specific punch and get a different result. That isn't realistic. It may be user error 99% of the time but when you can hit a button and get the result you're looking for, that's realism. There's never been a moment in the history of the sport of boxing where a guy cocks his arm back to throw a straight and ends up accidentally hooking an opponent to the body.

                      I was a button user last year and never found it possible to "cheese" like so many stick users cry wolf about. The only time you could tee off on someone with a five to six hit combination was when the opponent didn't know how to play defense. The stamina bar in last year's version also limited the amount of effective punches you could throw whether you connected or not (unlike this year, where you can seemingly throw an infinite barrage of blows to the body with little effect on your fighter's stamina).

                      I too won't be purchasing this game unless they add a button feature simply because I feel the TPC is too gimmicky. All sports games that try to implement this swing stick, total control pitching, and stick shooting is just lame to me. Leave the stick for first person shooters and just step up the in-game mechanics with these sports games and I'm sure everyone will be happy.

                      And yes, it was a bad business move by EA in removing an option that so many gamers enjoyed using. Debate that if you want, but when a company's bottom line is lower because of it, your whimpers of "get over it" make no difference.

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                      • Holt82
                        Rookie
                        • Jun 2009
                        • 43

                        #41
                        Re: DLC to allow button punching

                        Originally posted by ClickClickZoom
                        I've always found this debate to be hilarious.

                        The only reason there are no button options this year is because the same people who are telling button users to stop crying, were the same guys who couldn't cut it on-line in Round 3 and screamed bloody murder about "button mashing". They tried rationlizing by saying button punching isn't realistic where as TPC mimicks real punching and makes the game more challening.

                        Bull droppings.

                        Listen, just because you swing a stick around in little semi-circles and flick it back and forth every now and again doesn't make it more realistic. The main gripe with the stick is that it isn't as accurate as button punching. With the stick, there are times when you intend to throw a specific punch and get a different result. That isn't realistic. It may be user error 99% of the time but when you can hit a button and get the result you're looking for, that's realism. There's never been a moment in the history of the sport of boxing where a guy cocks his arm back to throw a straight and ends up accidentally hooking an opponent to the body.

                        I was a button user last year and never found it possible to "cheese" like so many stick users cry wolf about. The only time you could tee off on someone with a five to six hit combination was when the opponent didn't know how to play defense. The stamina bar in last year's version also limited the amount of effective punches you could throw whether you connected or not (unlike this year, where you can seemingly throw an infinite barrage of blows to the body with little effect on your fighter's stamina).

                        I too won't be purchasing this game unless they add a button feature simply because I feel the TPC is too gimmicky. All sports games that try to implement this swing stick, total control pitching, and stick shooting is just lame to me. Leave the stick for first person shooters and just step up the in-game mechanics with these sports games and I'm sure everyone will be happy.

                        And yes, it was a bad business move by EA in removing an option that so many gamers enjoyed using. Debate that if you want, but when a company's bottom line is lower because of it, your whimpers of "get over it" make no difference.
                        Have fun with Prizefighter.

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                        • ClickClickZoom
                          Rookie
                          • Apr 2009
                          • 46

                          #42
                          Re: DLC to allow button punching

                          Never played it, never will.

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                          • shigogouhou
                            Banned
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 293

                            #43
                            Re: DLC to allow button punching

                            Originally posted by Holt82
                            Have fun with Prizefighter.
                            "Hey, let's remove an option and then tell the people we alienate to take their business elsewhere!"

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                            • Dollar Theater
                              Rookie
                              • Jun 2009
                              • 99

                              #44
                              Re: DLC to allow button punching

                              Originally posted by shigogouhou
                              "Hey, let's remove an option and then tell the people we alienate to take their business elsewhere!"
                              Business 101 eludes some people.

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                              • Swingking77
                                Rookie
                                • Jul 2006
                                • 434

                                #45
                                Re: DLC to allow button punching

                                Originally posted by M.I.M.L.
                                Log online..................go ahead now log on, tell me how u feel after playing maybe 5 or 6 matches, make sure u play a high ranker

                                then come back and edit your duck tale statement that u posted cuz u really have no idea of what ur talking about
                                You my friend are an idiot cry baby... Just because you shoot off more doesn't make you right... Know what the difference between buttons vs. stick machers are? The accuracy with which they land their punches... A stick masher is sending shots everywhere... The other guy is sending shots that land nearly every single time... If you have an exposed area in your guard, he can hit it... The stick masher has to make the motion or waste his shot...

                                At this point, the issue is, as it always has been in the series... The stamina. Stamina would solve ALL of the online problems, save for maybe some of the "vacume" stuff that sometimes takes place... But I'd be willing to play with vacume, I refuse to play with excessive shot throwers, which button controls would only encourage...

                                Case in point... Why do you want buttons? Because it's easier to use. Fact. Why do you want an easier control system? So you can win with as little effort as possible. Stop crying and start learning how to play... Once they patch the stamina, all will be good and fine...

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