The Hidden Side of Floyd Mayweather Jr.

[caseyj622]

I'm a big floyd mayweather fan and I know there are a lot of haters out there who say he only cares about himself and money and all that. Well, I came across this article and I just think everyone should read it. Mayweather fan or not, it's a great article and I think most of you will enjoy it.

http://sports.yahoo.com/box/news?slug=ki-mayweather091109&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

[DaveDQ]

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That's nice to know. I don't have a problem with Mayweather. He's got to be one of the most frustrating guys to fight and that makes him one of the best. Knowing he does something like this reveals an important side to him. I don't think he's as arrogant as many claim.

[JayBee74]

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Floyd talks too much about how great he is, how much money he makes, and the great "Mayweather Brand". I'm an Ali fan, and have nothing against showmanship, but boorish behavior is another thing.

[grunt]

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Floyd talks too much about how great he is, how much money he makes, and the great "Mayweather Brand". I'm an Ali fan, and have nothing against showmanship, but boorish behavior is another thing.

Many people use to think Ali behavior was boorish.

[pk500]

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Many people use to think Ali behavior was boorish.

The difference between Ali and Mayweather is simple: Ali fought EVERY top heavyweight contender during his era. He ducked no one, and I'm not talking about the Pacquiao fight in regards to Mayweather.

Ali also wasn't afraid to see a number other than zero in his loss column. He was willing to fight the absolute best and risk a loss.

Don't put Mayweather and Ali into the same sentence. That's an insult to Ali, one of the greatest boxers and sportsmen of all time.

Mayweather isn't even one of the greatest welterweights of all time. I'd easily put him behind Ray Leonard, Hearns, Robinson, Armstrong, Basilio, Sweet Pea, Walcott, Gavilan and possibly more.

[grunt]

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The difference between Ali and Mayweather is simple: Ali fought EVERY top heavyweight contender during his era. He ducked no one, and I'm not talking about the Pacquiao fight in regards to Mayweather.

Ali also wasn't afraid to see a number other than zero in his loss column. He was willing to fight the absolute best and risk a loss.

Don't put Mayweather and Ali into the same sentence. That's an insult to Ali, one of the greatest boxers and sportsmen of all time.

Mayweather isn't even one of the greatest welterweights of all time. I'd easily put him behind Ray Leonard, Hearns, Robinson, Armstrong, Basilio, Sweet Pea, Walcott, Gavilan and possibly more.

Again, there were tons of people that thought Ali behavior was boorish too. I never said he was the greatest welterweights but he is going to give Pac a boxing lesson when they fight.

[pk500]

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Again, there were tons of people that thought Ali behavior was boorish too. I never said he was the greatest welterweights but he is going to give Pac a boxing lesson when they fight.

Very possible. But Pac may give Floyd a lesson in all-out assault and power by a southpaw before Floyd's boxing skills can take hold. Dougie Fischer of ringtv.com noted in his Massive Monday Mailbag this morning how Floyd has struggled with southpaws in the past:

>>>Unlike most of my peers in the media, I wasn’t that confident in Mayweather’s ability to contain Pacquiao because I don’t think he handles southpaws as well as he doesn’t orthodox fighters, and he’s never been in the ring with a lefty as dynamic and the Pac-monster. I know for a fact that Mayweather never wanted any part of Joel Casamayor and Steve Johnston and I can see why when I watch his fights with Demarcus Corley, Sharmba Mitchell, and Zab Judah. A southpaw doesn’t have to be Pernell Whitaker to catch Mayweather and make him miss more than usual.

I invite you to watch those fights on Youtube and ask you to pay particular attention to the first four rounds of each bout. To Mayweather’s credit, he figured out each lefty and made the right adjustments to beat them, but he was definitely not himself in the early rounds (even vs. Mitchell, who was shot). I can’t help but wonder how much damage a total badass beast like Pacquiao could inflict in that four to five round window that it would take Mayweather to “figure him out.”

I think fans -- both hardcore, casual and the just plain curious -- would have been treated to a competitive modern classic where Pacquiao stormed to an early lead and Mayweather would have to prove that he still has the cajones to climb his way out of a hole and dominate the late rounds in order to keep the “0” on his record.<<<

Full Mailbag: http://www.ringtv.com/blog/1513/doug...onday_mailbag/

Dougie always is a good read.

[Money99]

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Many people use to think Ali behavior was boorish.

But everyone agreed that Ali didn't duck anyone.

Again, there were tons of people that thought Ali behavior was boorish too. I never said he was the greatest welterweights but he is going to give Pac a boxing lesson when they fight.

I would love for this statement to be proven right or wrong.
Sadly, Floyd doesn't want any part of Pac.
There is too much evidence out there that shows that Floyd ducks tough fighters in order to protect his 'brand' and flawless record.

Just like Marciano, nobody's going to claim Mayweather is the greatest if he retires with an unbeaten record.
All that he'll be remembered for is how he ducked most tough challenges that came his way.
Pac and Floyd are in their primes, are #1 and #2 for PFP and in the same division. Pac wants the fight. The fans want the fight. Even Floyd's people want the fight. Sadly, Floyd doesn't. Simple as that.

[grunt]

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I didn't know they had full fights on youtube. I am watching Jab and May now.

Floyd is a beast. A defensive fighter that doesn't need ton of movement to make you miss. Goes to the head and body effectively and really patient and discipline. Jab won some early rounds but by round 4 Floyd was beginning to lay traps for Judah.

Floyd is a boxing fan's boxer. A very tough style for any fighter.

Is there a fight where Paq fought a defensive fighter?

[grunt]

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But everyone agreed that Ali didn't duck anyone.



I would love for this statement to be proven right or wrong.
Sadly, Floyd doesn't want any part of Pac.
There is too much evidence out there that shows that Floyd ducks tough fighters in order to protect his 'brand' and flawless record.

Just like Marciano, nobody's going to claim Mayweather is the greatest if he retires with an unbeaten record.
All that he'll be remembered for is how he ducked most tough challenges that came his way.
Pac and Floyd are in their primes, are #1 and #2 for PFP and in the same division. Pac wants the fight. The fans want the fight. Even Floyd's people want the fight. Sadly, Floyd doesn't. Simple as that.

So, the fighters he ducked could have beaten him?

[pk500]

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So, the fighters he ducked could have beaten him?

Maybe. But we'll never know, and that's the point: We know with Ali. He fought everyone. About the only top heavyweight in the world Ali didn't fight during his long era was Cuban amateur legend Teofilo Stevenson, who never fled Cuba under Castro to turn pro.

American promoters offered Stevenson $5 million -- a HUGE amount in those days -- to jump straight from the amateurs to fight Ali in his pro debut after he won his second Olympic gold in 1976. Stevenson refused, staying loyal to the Communists.

[grunt]

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Maybe. But we'll never know, and that's the point: We know with Ali. He fought everyone. About the only top heavyweight in the world Ali didn't fight during his long era was Cuban amateur legend Teofilo Stevenson, who never fled Cuba under Castro to turn pro.

American promoters offered Stevenson $5 million -- a HUGE amount in those days -- to jump straight from the amateurs to fight Ali in his pro debut after he won his second Olympic gold in 1976. Stevenson refused, staying loyal to the Communists.

Why so many people hate Floyd? I remember something Max Kellerman said a few years ago that people always over rate offensive fighters. I love me some defensive fighters. I am a big Ali fan but Floyd is such a great fighter, I dont understand all the negativity.

[pk500]

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Why so many people hate Floyd? I remember something Max Kellerman said a few years ago that people always over rate offensive fighters. I love me some defensive fighters. I am a big Ali fan but Floyd is such a great fighter, I dont understand all the negativity.

What's to misunderstand? The guy could have cleaned out the welterweight division with his immense defensive talent and left no doubt about his status as an all-time great. But he has chosen easy paydays over stiff challenges the last five years or so.

Capisce?

[grunt]

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What's to misunderstand? The guy could have cleaned out the welterweight division with his immense defensive talent and left no doubt about his status as an all-time great. But he has chosen easy paydays over stiff challenges the last five years or so.

Capisce?

I guess that why they are called prize fighters. You fight for the money. Do you think any of those guys would have beaten Floyd?

Can you recommend a fight where Manny fought a defensive fighter?

[pk500]

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I guess that why they are called prize fighters. You fight for the money. Do you think any of those guys would have beaten Floyd?

Mosley. He has the all-around skills. He can box, has very good speed and more power than Mayweather.

Margarito would have been a tough one, but who knows how long Tony's wraps have been loaded? Cotto before his beatdowns against Margarito and Pacquiao would have been a toughie. I don't think Cotto ever will be the same, especially now that his father has passed away.

Can you recommend a fight where Manny fought a defensive fighter?

No one recently in the defensive class as Mayweather. But then again, I don't think there's anyone in the vicinity of 147 who is as talented defensively as Mayweather.

Barrera improved his defense late in his career to become an excellent all-around fighter, but he's not in Money's class as a defender.

But I don't think Money has faced a fighter who has power in both hands and attacks with such work rate and from so many different angles as Pacquiao. That's what makes the Pacquiao-Mayweather matchup so fascinating and one that must happen at some point.