The Hidden Side of Floyd Mayweather Jr.

[grunt]

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Mosley. He has the all-around skills. He can box, has very good speed and more power than Mayweather.

Margarito would have been a tough one, but who knows how long Tony's wraps have been loaded? Cotto before his beatdowns against Margarito and Pacquiao would have been a toughie. I don't think Cotto ever will be the same, especially now that his father has passed away.



No one recently in the defensive class as Mayweather. But then again, I don't think there's anyone in the vicinity of 147 who is as talented defensively as Mayweather.

Barrera improved his defense late in his career to become an excellent all-around fighter, but he's not in Money's class as a defender.

But I don't think Money has faced a fighter who has power in both hands and attacks with such work rate and from so many different angles as Pacquiao. That's what makes the Pacquiao-Mayweather matchup so fascinating and one that must happen at some point.

Thanks for the mature reply. I was a hardcore boxing fan from the mid 80's until the late 90's so missed ton of fights. I watched Manny when he was younger and at a lighter weight but I haven't seen his Cotto fights.

I would have loved to see Mosley and Floyd fight. I lost respect for Mosley because of his PED buut he would have been an entertaining fight.

[bvb24]

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Don't be too fooled by Floyd's PR stunts. I live in Grand Rapids, Michigan and have seen Mayweather "around town," AKA at the bar multiple times. It has been a couple years as both Floyd and myself have gotten older and hopefully matured but every time I saw him back then, he and his entourage would beat the living s*** out of some poor kid. From what I saw these were not provoked attacks. Just some trained fighters looking for a "fight."

[grunt]

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Don't be too fooled by Floyd's PR stunts. I live in Grand Rapids, Michigan and have seen Mayweather "around town," AKA at the bar multiple times. It has been a couple years as both Floyd and myself have gotten older and hopefully matured but every time I saw him back then, he and his entourage would beat the living s*** out of some poor kid. From what I saw these were not provoked attacks. Just some trained fighters looking for a "fight."

and where are the lawsuits

[King_B_Mack]

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Don't be too fooled by Floyd's PR stunts. I live in Grand Rapids, Michigan and have seen Mayweather "around town," AKA at the bar multiple times. It has been a couple years as both Floyd and myself have gotten older and hopefully matured but every time I saw him back then, he and his entourage would beat the living s*** out of some poor kid. From what I saw these were not provoked attacks. Just some trained fighters looking for a "fight."

These are always hilarious on the net. Random message board patron who has the friend of the friend of the brother who has access to some information no one else does or the person hung out with -insert celebrity name here- before they were famous and they were either a jerk or really cool before fame or any other number of stories that they don't back up with some form of proof.

Well I would hope you have matured since then to someone that will report an assualt like that to the police or stick around to give a statement when these "poor kids" are no doubt reporting such attacks so that everyone knows what a true jerk Floyd and his crew are. Now don't get me wrong, I'm not saying celebrities with entourages don't get a little out of control sometimes, but if a guy with the nickname of "Money" beats the hell out of me with a bunch of his buddies and I did nothing to deserve it, then his new nickname will soon be "Annuity" as in paying me annually as an out of court lawsuit settlement and don't even get me started on the negative press I'm making sure he gets. Thus far I've heard of none of this for Mayweather. So either all these "poor kids" are scared to death to sue or file a police report, did something to provoke a beatdown or it just didn't happen. Oh, the bar owners are scumbags too for not reporting him.

[Money99]

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Why so many people hate Floyd? I remember something Max Kellerman said a few years ago that people always over rate offensive fighters. I love me some defensive fighters. I am a big Ali fan but Floyd is such a great fighter, I dont understand all the negativity.

So grunt, tell me straight-up. You have no problem with Mayweather's choice of opposition since his comeback?
You won't be upset when he fights Paulie Malignaggi, another 140 pounder?

You have no problem with him not challenging or accepting the challenge of Mosley, Pacquio or Williams?

You honestly believe he's fighting the best in his division?

That's why I hate him. He has world-class skills but refuses to use them on the best.
But mostly, I hate him because he changed his moniker to "Money Mayweather". It's absolutely brilliant.
He created himself an alibi (or cop-out) from having to fight the best. Without saying it, he's basically told the world that he's in it for the money, not the glory, not the fame, and certainly not to prove he's the best. He will only fight if it's a safe fight and pays a lot.
Right before he retired he was on ESPN radio where he flat-out said "I'm not an athlete. I'm a businessman".

And what I think I hate the most about Mayweather is how his fans give him a pass on this.

Mayweather puts himself in the same class as Ali, Robinson and Leonard. And yet those men ducked NOBODY. Leonard came out of a 5-year retirement to MOVE UP IN WEIGHT and fight the baddest man at 160 pounds.
Robinson fought Lamatta 3 times in a month - and a higher weight class than Robinson was used to.

Mayweather would never do that in a million years or for a billion dollars.
That's why I hate him.
I can go around and tell everyone I'm the baddest man on the planet. But if you never prove it, it's worthless hyperbole.
Mayweather retired just when the welterweight division was heating up. Now that he's back, he wants nothing to do with anyone who's a natural 147 pounder.

In short; he's a coward.

[Jukeman]

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So grunt, tell me straight-up. You have no problem with Mayweather's choice of opposition since his comeback?
You won't be upset when he fights Paulie Malignaggi, another 140 pounder?

You have no problem with him not challenging or accepting the challenge of Mosley, Pacquio or Williams?

You honestly believe he's fighting the best in his division?

That's why I hate him. He has world-class skills but refuses to use them on the best.
But mostly, I hate him because he changed his moniker to "Money Mayweather". It's absolutely brilliant.
He created himself an alibi (or cop-out) from having to fight the best. Without saying it, he's basically told the world that he's in it for the money, not the glory, not the fame, and certainly not to prove he's the best. He will only fight if it's a safe fight and pays a lot.
Right before he retired he was on ESPN radio where he flat-out said "I'm not an athlete. I'm a businessman".

And what I think I hate the most about Mayweather is how his fans give him a pass on this.

Mayweather puts himself in the same class as Ali, Robinson and Leonard. And yet those men ducked NOBODY. Leonard came out of a 5-year retirement to MOVE UP IN WEIGHT and fight the baddest man at 160 pounds.
Robinson fought Lamatta 3 times in a month - and a higher weight class than Robinson was used to.

Mayweather would never do that in a million years or for a billion dollars.
That's why I hate him.
I can go around and tell everyone I'm the baddest man on the planet. But if you never prove it, it's worthless hyperbole.
Mayweather retired just when the welterweight division was heating up. Now that he's back, he wants nothing to do with anyone who's a natural 147 pounder.

In short; he's a coward.

b.. b.. b..But your name is Money.........

[Money99]

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b.. b.. b..But your name is Money.........

Just another reason to hate the man! He stole my moniker!!!

[grunt]

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So grunt, tell me straight-up. You have no problem with Mayweather's choice of opposition since his comeback?
You won't be upset when he fights Paulie Malignaggi, another 140 pounder?

You have no problem with him not challenging or accepting the challenge of Mosley, Pacquio or Williams?

You honestly believe he's fighting the best in his division?

That's why I hate him. He has world-class skills but refuses to use them on the best.
But mostly, I hate him because he changed his moniker to "Money Mayweather". It's absolutely brilliant.
He created himself an alibi (or cop-out) from having to fight the best. Without saying it, he's basically told the world that he's in it for the money, not the glory, not the fame, and certainly not to prove he's the best. He will only fight if it's a safe fight and pays a lot.
Right before he retired he was on ESPN radio where he flat-out said "I'm not an athlete. I'm a businessman".

And what I think I hate the most about Mayweather is how his fans give him a pass on this.

Mayweather puts himself in the same class as Ali, Robinson and Leonard. And yet those men ducked NOBODY. Leonard came out of a 5-year retirement to MOVE UP IN WEIGHT and fight the baddest man at 160 pounds.
Robinson fought Lamatta 3 times in a month - and a higher weight class than Robinson was used to.

Mayweather would never do that in a million years or for a billion dollars.
That's why I hate him.
I can go around and tell everyone I'm the baddest man on the planet. But if you never prove it, it's worthless hyperbole.
Mayweather retired just when the welterweight division was heating up. Now that he's back, he wants nothing to do with anyone who's a natural 147 pounder.

In short; he's a coward.

You know he is a prize fighter. Fighters fight for money. Sugar Ray Leonard picked his fights after he came back from retirement and most fighters would if they could.

[JayBee74]

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The difference between Ali and Mayweather is simple: Ali fought EVERY top heavyweight contender during his era. He ducked no one, and I'm not talking about the Pacquiao fight in regards to Mayweather.

Ali also wasn't afraid to see a number other than zero in his loss column. He was willing to fight the absolute best and risk a loss.

Don't put Mayweather and Ali into the same sentence. That's an insult to Ali, one of the greatest boxers and sportsmen of all time.

Mayweather isn't even one of the greatest welterweights of all time. I'd easily put him behind Ray Leonard, Hearns, Robinson, Armstrong, Basilio, Sweet Pea, Walcott, Gavilan and possibly more.

I agree about the SENTENCE thing, and all of your boxers except Whitaker (Sweet Pea) and Basilio.

[Disqo]

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It should be no secret by now that Floyd plays the role of the 'heel' and does it well. The Money gimmick is a side of him but its not the whole, I remember when he was an up and comer, that would smile and kiss babies nobody cared about him then.

A small minority that do not like him have good reasons the majority just recite what ESPN say's

You know he is a prize fighter. Fighters fight for money. Sugar Ray Leonard picked his fights after he came back from retirement and most fighters would if they could.

According to the naysers Floyd is the ONLY fighter in history that fights for money, just like he is the ONLY fighter that has passed on fights, The funniest one must be that he is a coward, I don't like many a boxer but I would never call one a coward.

[Money99]

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You know he is a prize fighter. Fighters fight for money. Sugar Ray Leonard picked his fights after he came back from retirement and most fighters would if they could.

I know. He picked Marvin Haglar as his comeback fight - in a division 13 pounds heavier than him.
This was an aged Leonard who had retina issues.

Who did Floyd pick out of retirement? While in his physical prime?
A 130 pound champ. And forced him to come up 17 pounds.

Sounds like they both hand-picked an easy opponent.

I don't think you want to compare Sugar Ray's resume to Leonards.
He fought some legends, who were all in their prime at the time.

His bout with Hearns at 147 was legendary. Both were in their primes and champs.
Ray didn't duck Tommy despite Hearn's obvious physical advantages.

Mayweather is doing everything in his power to avoid guys like Pacquio, Mosely and Williams.

Finally, Pac's also a prize fighter. I don't see him ducking anyone.
Of all the fighters on the planet right now, nobody deserves a 'gimme' like Pac. Yet he continues to fight the best contenders in his current weight class(s).

But your response sums it up. Fans of Floyd are willing to look the other way and spout off simple cliche's to protect their hero from justified scrutiny.
By saying he's allowed to duck fights because he should be more concerned about money than being honorable to the sport that makes them rich is sad. Especially since it's his own fans he's robbing.

I hope the rumors of him fighting Cintron next are true. That's a good opponent to pick.
But I fear we'll get another pillow-handed lightweight as his next fight.
He's going to protect that precious perfect record and the "Mayweather brand" as long as he can. Probably until he gets out of debt. Then he'll retire again and tell anyone who'll listen about how he's the best ever and spout off one reason after another why he never got in the ring with the likes of Pacquio, Mosley, Casamayor, Steve Johnston, etc.

[JayBee74]

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But your response sums it up. Fans of Floyd are willing to look the other way and spout off simple cliche's to protect their hero from justified scrutiny.
By saying he's allowed to duck fights because he should be more concerned about money than being honorable to the sport that makes them rich is sad. Especially since it's his own fans he's robbing.

Well said.

[grunt]

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I know. He picked Marvin Haglar as his comeback fight - in a division 13 pounds heavier than him.
This was an aged Leonard who had retina issues.

Who did Floyd pick out of retirement? While in his physical prime?
A 130 pound champ. And forced him to come up 17 pounds.

Sounds like they both hand-picked an easy opponent.

I don't think you want to compare Sugar Ray's resume to Leonards.
He fought some legends, who were all in their prime at the time.

His bout with Hearns at 147 was legendary. Both were in their primes and champs.
Ray didn't duck Tommy despite Hearn's obvious physical advantages.

Mayweather is doing everything in his power to avoid guys like Pacquio, Mosely and Williams.

Finally, Pac's also a prize fighter. I don't see him ducking anyone.
Of all the fighters on the planet right now, nobody deserves a 'gimme' like Pac. Yet he continues to fight the best contenders in his current weight class(s).

But your response sums it up. Fans of Floyd are willing to look the other way and spout off simple cliche's to protect their hero from justified scrutiny.
By saying he's allowed to duck fights because he should be more concerned about money than being honorable to the sport that makes them rich is sad. Especially since it's his own fans he's robbing.

I hope the rumors of him fighting Cintron next are true. That's a good opponent to pick.
But I fear we'll get another pillow-handed lightweight as his next fight.
He's going to protect that precious perfect record and the "Mayweather brand" as long as he can. Probably until he gets out of debt. Then he'll retire again and tell anyone who'll listen about how he's the best ever and spout off one reason after another why he never got in the ring with the likes of Pacquio, Mosley, Casamayor, Steve Johnston, etc.

First of all I am not a fan of Floyd.

Sugar Ray Leonard was the biggest pimp boxing has ever seen. Ray fought Hagler because he felt that he could beat Hagler. He saw a decline in Hagler skills and that was the only reason he took the fight.

Hearns/Leonard was legendary but Leonard didn't want to give Hearns a rematch. Leonard wanted Hearns to retract the statement about the first fight being stop to early. Leonard only gave rematches when the rematches fit Leonard agenda.

Ray was always bigger than the sport. Since 76 Olympics he was able to pick and choose when, where, and who fought. Everyone was on Ray schedule and yes I am a big Ray fan.

Mosley shouldn't even be able to fight again since he admitted to using PED. How is Floyd ducking Pac? Pac is avoiding drug test and now that is Floyd fault.

[grunt]

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Is Paul Williams the lanky southpaw? if so will Pac ever fight him?

[Jukeman]

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Not to mention Willams is not even fighting WW, Margarito and Shane are both cheaters and they shouldnt even be boxing let alone have a record that means anything...