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[ojandpizza]

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I was entertained for the evening but that draw killed it for me. That "decision" was 100% rigged to do a money grab and do it again.
Tyson looked far better than Roy which surprised me. I didn't expect Roy to tire so much more than Tyson. Congrats to Mike for real. He looked damn good for a 54 year old 15 years removed from his last fight. At the end he looked like he wanted more rounds, while Roy looked like he was begging for it to end.

Also, Nate Robinson had no business being in a boxing ring

100% agree with all of this. I don’t like the draw, I’d rather there just be no outcome announced if that was going to be the case. Mike clearly won that in my eyes, probably won all 8 rounds even.

Nate Robison thing was scary for a second. He definitely doesn’t need to be in the ring again.


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[RockinDaMike]

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Honestly looked like Mike held back a lot. He had many chances to get a hook on the dome or an Uppercut but chose mostly body shots. He was definitely hurting Jones with those shots though. Good thing he has love for Jones because if that was a guy he hated that would have been night night.


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[Sinner]

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Honestly looked like Mike held back a lot. He had many chances to get a hook on the dome or an Uppercut but chose mostly body shots. He was definitely hurting Jones with those shots though. Good thing he has love for Jones because if that was a guy he hated that would have been night night.


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yeah I believe Mike could have done him in a few times, my bro and I were texting saying it's good Mike has grown and evolved cause if it was young Mike mentality he would have hurt Roy.

[Money99]

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That draw was [emoji817] predetermined.
Paz didn't give one round to Mike.
Dawson gave Mike the first half and RJJ the 2nd and Martin had a legit score.
But I don't think this was done to force a rematch - I got the impression it was more to preserve the dignity of two proud former champs.
If it was taken too seriously, I wonder how many other former fighters would agree to take part if they knew they could get embarassed.

Mike definitely let him off the hook a few times. There were a few moments where if he had followed up, he could have really hurt Roy.

I also don't think Roy wants any part of a rematch.
I could see both guys on the follow up card, but against different guys.

And I was legit surprised at how good Mike looked. Used his jab, moved his head and his footwork was good too.
You could tell he took training seriously.

Current NHL player, Evander Kane (yes he was named after Holyfield) tweeted he wants Paul next.
That is a really good fight as Kane boxed as an amateur. And they're about the same size too.

All in all, this was a highly entertaining card.
Snoop was amazing and I don't mean just his concert. He was hilarious all night with his commentary.
He should seriously be used to call more of these fights in the future.

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[allBthere]

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That draw was [emoji817] predetermined.
Paz didn't give one round to Mike.
Dawson gave Mike the first half and RJJ the 2nd and Martin had a legit score.
But I don't think this was done to force a rematch - I got the impression it was more to preserve the dignity of two proud former champs.
If it was taken too seriously, I wonder how many other former fighters would agree to take part if they knew they could get embarassed.

Mike definitely let him off the hook a few times. There were a few moments where if he had followed up, he could have really hurt Roy.

I also don't think Roy wants any part of a rematch.
I could see both guys on the follow up card, but against different guys.

And I was legit surprised at how good Mike looked. Used his jab, moved his head and his footwork was good too.
You could tell he took training seriously.

Current NHL player, Evander Kane (yes he was named after Holyfield) tweeted he wants Paul next.
That is a really good fight as Kane boxed as an amateur. And they're about the same size too.

All in all, this was a highly entertaining card.
Snoop was amazing and I don't mean just his concert. He was hilarious all night with his commentary.
He should seriously be used to call more of these fights in the future.

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After some reflection, I'm fine with that rigged draw, and glad it wasn't a professional official bout that would add to their ring records. This is something different - and that's ok. You could see mike talking about the humanitarian aspect and that's cool. His production company too - how amazing is it that after being dogged out by Don King etc that later in life he gets to call the shots and put on a show and make more money and spread it around!

Also he looked amazing. His peekaboo ducking and weaving looked objectively excelent for anyone at any age. I actually wondered if this aged Tyson would have beaten that bum McBride!

Nate is going to be a meme - that sucks for him.

Also this youtube star thing while ridiculous actually harkens back to early boxing - it's PRIZEFIGHTING. And I guess that's cool, I mean sometimes it's really not about who's the best in the world but more about who can take home the prize and win on a more personal beef level lol. So in that respect this card actually mixed it up pretty good, although Jack should have been up against someone more experienced at the highest level.

I was pleasantly surprised, and still can't get over how well Tyson moved his hips/feet

[Money99]

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Bodou spoke about getting a rematch with Pascal in early 2021 and doing this fight as a favour to Mike and RJJ.
So I think this was little more than a a glorified sparring bout for him.

I was also really pleased to see Mike look like an older version of his young self.
It was a great shot of nestalgia.

I'm also in agreement about these 'celeb' fights.
If it's entertaining, why not?
And let's face it, boxing has done far more to embarass itself over the past 10-20 years that having YouTubers fight is a drop in the bucket.
And I'll take a Paul vs Boxcar Willy over another 'legit' Jacobs fight any day of the week.

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[RockinDaMike]

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Oh yeah forgot about mention Snoop. He was fantastic, “it’s like my two uncles fighting at the bbq!”

Big ups to whoever organized it, I was entertained a lot and hope they do it again. I even liked the small ring so you couldn’t run away as much.

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[ggsimmonds]

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That draw was [emoji817] predetermined.
Paz didn't give one round to Mike.
Dawson gave Mike the first half and RJJ the 2nd and Martin had a legit score.
But I don't think this was done to force a rematch - I got the impression it was more to preserve the dignity of two proud former champs.
If it was taken too seriously, I wonder how many other former fighters would agree to take part if they knew they could get embarassed.

Mike definitely let him off the hook a few times. There were a few moments where if he had followed up, he could have really hurt Roy.

I also don't think Roy wants any part of a rematch.
I could see both guys on the follow up card, but against different guys.

And I was legit surprised at how good Mike looked. Used his jab, moved his head and his footwork was good too.
You could tell he took training seriously.

Current NHL player, Evander Kane (yes he was named after Holyfield) tweeted he wants Paul next.
That is a really good fight as Kane boxed as an amateur. And they're about the same size too.

All in all, this was a highly entertaining card.
Snoop was amazing and I don't mean just his concert. He was hilarious all night with his commentary.
He should seriously be used to call more of these fights in the future.

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You may be right. After thinking about it I'm fine with the draw.

I'm still mixed on what I think of social media influencer boxing though. On the one hand if its entertaining and creates interest in the sport thats awesome. On the other hand though I worry that there is potential for it to bring out the worst in the sport.

Jake Paul is a good example of the positive side. He took training seriously and looks like a legit fighter. I hope he continues to box and brings in more fans. The dude he fought in his first fight is an example of why I'm not all in on this though. He had some crazy parallel stance that could have got him seriously hurt.

[Money99]

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You may be right. After thinking about it I'm fine with the draw.

I'm still mixed on what I think of social media influencer boxing though. On the one hand if its entertaining and creates interest in the sport thats awesome. On the other hand though I worry that there is potential for it to bring out the worst in the sport.

Jake Paul is a good example of the positive side. He took training seriously and looks like a legit fighter. I hope he continues to box and brings in more fans. The dude he fought in his first fight is an example of why I'm not all in on this though. He had some crazy parallel stance that could have got him seriously hurt.

That's the first thing I noticed too.
You see that sometimes in MMA to defend against leg kicks or take downs, but I think in that case the guy simply didn't know how to fight.
I've seen soccer moms in Boxercise classes (where I'm undefeated - natch) with better footwork.

I'm not a fan of the Paul's at all, but I do get the sense Jake is taking boxing seriously.
A lot of other guys have fought stiffs on the way up.
But eventually he's going to have to fight someone other than extras from Saved By the Bell.

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[allBthere]

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forgot to mention I agree with you guys that Tyson was pulling back. I actually thought the last few rounds he was trying to end it VIA a body shot - 'the head goes down with it' mentality. It was super obvious a few times in the last 2 rounds where he went downstairs when the head was there, plus with not much time to go - why do that? He threw a few upstairs and connected in the first couple rounds, but after that there was a 'focus' on the body. Even then I could be wrong and he was ALSO not firing AND using less force.

My wife watched with me and was so impressed/inspired by Tyson, she couldn't get over his transformation and his attitude I was surprised to see her reaction as a total non-boxing person be so impressed with the event.

I feel a bit bad for Nate, I kind of hope for him the meme's aren't long-lived, I've already seen a few ... pretty embarrassing - and I thought he'd win with his football background and also being an elite athlete. Paul get's demolished by a real boxer easily...but I guess it was a 'fun' mix of real fights and grudge matches.

[RockinDaMike]

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I see Mike doing this at least one more time and that’s with Evander. He’s still training and no other matchup is worth talking about.


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[allBthere]

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I see Mike doing this at least one more time and that’s with Evander. He’s still training and no other matchup is worth talking about.


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I could see a few old guys that still do it like Razor Ruddock ... I almost forgot - it's so nice to see as people age they typically get more and more brutally honest.

In RJJ's corner - "Roy you got this! You can see ALL the shots coming"
RJJ - "yeah, SO WHAT?"

LOL, that was pure gold! it's like yeah I can see I'm about to be hit by that mac truck, doesn't make it hurt any less!!!!

[Money99]

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I could see a few old guys that still do it like Razor Ruddock ... I almost forgot - it's so nice to see as people age they typically get more and more brutally honest.

In RJJ's corner - "Roy you got this! You can see ALL the shots coming"
RJJ - "yeah, SO WHAT?"

LOL, that was pure gold! it's like yeah I can see I'm about to be hit by that mac truck, doesn't make it hurt any less!!!!

Lol, so true.
Ali spoke about being dropped by Frazier and he saw the hook coming but couldn't move as fast as he used to.

I feel bad for Nate getting ridiculed online.
I give him full credit for having the courage to not only step thru the ropes, but do it on a national PPV card.
The intestinal fortitude required of someone to do that is admirable.
I've seen amateurs get half way to the ring in their debut turn around and run to the dressing room due to the anxiety.

He got sparked out but he did something an incredibly small % of the population would even consider. So he gets a lot of my respect for going thru with it.

BTW, I think you're right about Holyfield.
But I could see that happening after one more tune-up fight.
And of course, this bout needs to marinate a bit more. [emoji12]

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[Jeffx]

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Jake Paul knocked Nate Robinson the **** out lol


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Wearing Knick colors, too....smdh


"You don’t block punches with ya head and win a fight” (Shannon Sharpe, lol)

[Money99]

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I hope this is fake:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing/article-9005287/amp/Glenn-McCrory-claims-agreed-BARE-KNUCKLE-boxing-match-legend-Evander-Holyfield.html

I watched some BK fights recently.
It can be very brutal for athletes in their prime let alone at 50+.

They should fight on Mike's next card.
Tyson says he wants Holyfield again so let them both have a fight next, then they can square off on the third show.

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