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  • edaddy
    MVP
    • Jun 2004
    • 2848

    #5581
    Re: Boxing Off-Topic

    Originally posted by allBthere
    forgot to mention I agree with you guys that Tyson was pulling back. I actually thought the last few rounds he was trying to end it VIA a body shot - 'the head goes down with it' mentality. It was super obvious a few times in the last 2 rounds where he went downstairs when the head was there, plus with not much time to go - why do that? He threw a few upstairs and connected in the first couple rounds, but after that there was a 'focus' on the body. Even then I could be wrong and he was ALSO not firing AND using less force.

    My wife watched with me and was so impressed/inspired by Tyson, she couldn't get over his transformation and his attitude I was surprised to see her reaction as a total non-boxing person be so impressed with the event.

    I feel a bit bad for Nate, I kind of hope for him the meme's aren't long-lived, I've already seen a few ... pretty embarrassing - and I thought he'd win with his football background and also being an elite athlete. Paul get's demolished by a real boxer easily...but I guess it was a 'fun' mix of real fights and grudge matches.
    After watching it on youtube I have to agree. There were several times in the fight that Mike had him lined up and either pulled the punch or went to his body. I think Mike started getting frustrated in the 7th when Roy started showboating. Either way I guarantee there was a gentleman's agreement as it looked like a safe sparring session. I think Mike looked great for his age and I glad that he sees this for what it is a exhibition he knows that he cant compete in a boxing match with a c level fighter at this point. I think Nate found out the hard way that boxing aint what it looks like on TV it's a sweet science with hurt intentions. He was warned by several boxers not to do it but he let that training think he was somehow a boxer. I tell everyone it takes alot of heart just to step in a ring and it takes massive dedication and skill to be successful in it...I think this is all headed to a Tyson vs Holyfield exhibition fight and I think McGregor will get in on the action thats easy easy money for him....
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    • Money99
      Hall Of Fame
      • Sep 2002
      • 12694

      #5582
      Re: Boxing Off-Topic

      Originally posted by edaddy
      After watching it on youtube I have to agree. There were several times in the fight that Mike had him lined up and either pulled the punch or went to his body. I think Mike started getting frustrated in the 7th when Roy started showboating. Either way I guarantee there was a gentleman's agreement as it looked like a safe sparring session. I think Mike looked great for his age and I glad that he sees this for what it is a exhibition he knows that he cant compete in a boxing match with a c level fighter at this point. I think Nate found out the hard way that boxing aint what it looks like on TV it's a sweet science with hurt intentions. He was warned by several boxers not to do it but he let that training think he was somehow a boxer. I tell everyone it takes alot of heart just to step in a ring and it takes massive dedication and skill to be successful in it...I think this is all headed to a Tyson vs Holyfield exhibition fight and I think McGregor will get in on the action thats easy easy money for him....
      Ima die on this hill; if Tyson fought Buster it would be the highest grossing PPV event of the year.
      Last edited by Money99; 12-01-2020, 12:48 PM.

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      • Jeffx
        MVP
        • Jan 2007
        • 3045

        #5583
        Re: Boxing Off-Topic

        Originally posted by edaddy
        I think Nate found out the hard way that boxing aint what it looks like on TV it's a sweet science with hurt intentions. He was warned by several boxers not to do it but he let that training think he was somehow a boxer. I tell everyone it takes alot of heart just to step in a ring and it takes massive dedication and skill to be successful in it.
        Thank you....please pass this along to any pro athlete who thinks they can step into a ring because they can handle their business in the street. Street fighting ain't boxing. Like you said, it's a science that takes years to master.

        I heard some NFL players are goofing on Nate on social media. Those cats need to pipe down.

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        • Money99
          Hall Of Fame
          • Sep 2002
          • 12694

          #5584
          Re: Boxing Off-Topic

          Oh yeah baby!
          James "Buster" Douglas, who upset Mike Tyson 30 years ago to become the undisputed heavyweight champion, is open to facing him again.The 60-year-old Douglas spoke about the possibility of a rematch after Tyson made his return to the boxing ring Saturday night in an eight-round exhibition fight against Roy Jones Jr. "Sure, I would welcome the opportunity," Douglas told USA Today's Josh Peter. "Being a prizefighter all those years and still feeling pretty good today, you always feel you got one more fight in you."Douglas was a 42-to-1 underdog entering his fight against the then 37-0 Tyson on Feb. 11, 1990. He went on to defeat "Iron Mike" via 10th-round knockout in what is regarded as one of the greatest upsets in sports history."I've been asked about it in casual conversation," Douglas said of a possible rematch. "They always ask, 'Why didn't you guys have a rematch?'"It was just never presented, really, as far as a rematch. It was often mentioned. That's about it.'"Douglas' last professional fight was in 1999, but he noted he could be ready to return to the ring in six-to-eight weeks. Tyson, meanwhile, has said he's planning future fights as part of his Legends Only League.


          The 60-year-old Douglas spoke about the possibility of a rematch after Tyson made his return to the boxing ring Saturday night in an eight-round exhibition fight against Roy Jones Jr.

          "Sure, I would welcome the opportunity," Douglas told USA Today's Josh Peter. "Being a prizefighter all those years and still feeling pretty good today, you always feel you got one more fight in you."

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          • Money99
            Hall Of Fame
            • Sep 2002
            • 12694

            #5585
            Re: Boxing Off-Topic

            Estimated 1.5M buys for the Tyson PPV.
            That says a lot about the state of boxing these days.

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            • edaddy
              MVP
              • Jun 2004
              • 2848

              #5586
              Re: Boxing Off-Topic

              Originally posted by Money99
              The truly sad part about this is that someone's gonna get hurt in the end which is going to shut down this whole thing. There are just certain factors you have to include with a older fighter and even more with 55+ year old fighters. I took the exhibition for what it was glad I didn't pay for it but it looked like 2 older people fighting. Tysons didnt look pronounced because he was in with another aging fighter who couldn't take advantage of certain angles and shots. Holyfield is 58 damn near 59 Douglass is 60 cmon man thats like Jordan going in a gym today barely dunking a ball and saying I can run with these kids today nah no you can't...Your boy loses so much muscle fiber, reflex conditioning, stamina, and overall fast twitch ouput past 50 that its feasibly impossible to compete other than with someone your age. this isnt going to end well
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              • allBthere
                All Star
                • Jan 2008
                • 5847

                #5587
                Re: Boxing Off-Topic

                local Josh O'Reilly fighting now on Dazn - he's solid, really looking forward to how he handles stepping up in class

                I may or may not being watching a stream



                This is the Saunders card live now because of the time difference.

                **edit ***eeeek Josh got blown out in rd 1. Tennyson hits HARD! I feel for Josh, with 10 less fights he need a lot more rounds with better fighters
                Last edited by allBthere; 12-04-2020, 05:33 PM.
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                • JayBee74
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 22989

                  #5588
                  Re: Boxing Off-Topic

                  Originally posted by allBthere

                  **edit ***eeeek Josh got blown out in rd 1. Tennyson hits HARD! I feel for Josh, with 10 less fights he need a lot more rounds with better fighters
                  Saw the highlights (which was essentially most of the fight) on YouTube-Josh couldn’t handle the power or the pressure.

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                  • Money99
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Sep 2002
                    • 12694

                    #5589
                    Re: Boxing Off-Topic

                    Originally posted by allBthere
                    local Josh O'Reilly fighting now on Dazn - he's solid, really looking forward to how he handles stepping up in class

                    I may or may not being watching a stream



                    This is the Saunders card live now because of the time difference.

                    **edit ***eeeek Josh got blown out in rd 1. Tennyson hits HARD! I feel for Josh, with 10 less fights he need a lot more rounds with better fighters
                    Watched live and that was.... tough to watch.
                    Hopefully O'Reilly isn't deterred and can come back from that.
                    He never fully recovered from that first hard shot.
                    Tennyson sure hits hard and it was obvious he should have been fighting at 135 a lot sooner.
                    People are scoffing at him challenging Tank Davis, but I'd like to see that fight.
                    Tennyson is likely going to be the Danny Garcia of a very stacked LW division; tough, hits hard but doesn't quite have the 3D skills to be a champion.
                    But I look forward to seeing him fight again.

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                    • sheredia
                      MVP
                      • Apr 2006
                      • 2350

                      #5590
                      Re: Boxing Off-Topic

                      Originally posted by Money99
                      Estimated 1.5M buys for the Tyson PPV.
                      That says a lot about the state of boxing these days.

                      Sent from my MAR-LX3A using Operation Sports mobile app
                      tyson truly wants to promote the sport too.....and if they donate some of the earnings to charity, even better. couldn't help being reminded of the rocky balboa movie with stallone fighting in his early sixties. one interesting note is he originally wanted jones instead of tarver for the role of dixon. tyson made a cameo appearance in the movie as well.

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                      • ggsimmonds
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 11235

                        #5591
                        Re: Boxing Off-Topic

                        Floyd has agreed to box Logan Paul in an exhibition in February lol

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                        • ggsimmonds
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 11235

                          #5592
                          Re: Boxing Off-Topic

                          Originally posted by Jeffx
                          Thank you....please pass this along to any pro athlete who thinks they can step into a ring because they can handle their business in the street. Street fighting ain't boxing. Like you said, it's a science that takes years to master.

                          I heard some NFL players are goofing on Nate on social media. Those cats need to pipe down.
                          Think you guys are going overboard with this. Jake Paul isn't some lifelong boxer here.

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                          • edaddy
                            MVP
                            • Jun 2004
                            • 2848

                            #5593
                            Re: Boxing Off-Topic

                            Man that was a good and needed win for Spence last night. He still is a tick off and he is still getting hit these last two fights for my liking, But I’m happy for this dude he seems genuinely changed by his accident and he seems a lot more grounded. He started out slow but put in that work to the body and threw crisp combinations with a outstanding jab that kept Garcia at bay. The Crawford vs Spence fight needs to happen now as both are showing signs of slippage. But that’s going to be a war both are some straight up warriors.
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                            • allBthere
                              All Star
                              • Jan 2008
                              • 5847

                              #5594
                              Re: Boxing Off-Topic

                              Originally posted by edaddy
                              Man that was a good and needed win for Spence last night. He still is a tick off and he is still getting hit these last two fights for my liking, But I’m happy for this dude he seems genuinely changed by his accident and he seems a lot more grounded. He started out slow but put in that work to the body and threw crisp combinations with a outstanding jab that kept Garcia at bay. The Crawford vs Spence fight needs to happen now as both are showing signs of slippage. But that’s going to be a war both are some straight up warriors.
                              I thought it was a great fight - really entertaining and great adjustments on both sides. I watched with the sound off because of family stuff - but after I was irked by the way the media/broadcast opinionated on the fight.

                              I had Danny Garcia winning rounds 2,4,5 and 7 - possibly a win in a number of swing rounds too. I thought spence controlled the ring with his movment and jabs. I don't disagree that Spence won on points, but some of the 'headlines' were mentioning "dominant win" etc. The broadcast also didn't give Danny credit for a number of punches landed and gave spence credit for shots that were blocked! I was actually impressed with Garcia's defence and he was able to not get hit by spence's left hand all night with a few exceptions.

                              Another thought I had was this - who would I rather be physically after the fight? ...Garcia! He landed the much harder shots and also to the body as well, you could see spence convulse to get out of the way of rights downstairs later in the fight - he didn't like those! He also landed the harder cleaner shots with regularity over the fight. I know Danny hits hard, so I'm actually really impressed with Spence's chin. I think it was round 8 Garcia hit spence with a flush right cross that had a lot behind it and the slow motion replay made me wonder how Spence didn't get stunned.

                              All this not to discredit Spence. He was one of my fav fighters a few years ago and I predicted he would become champ and stay unbeaten for about 7 years (I was really high on him) and that prediction is getting close to coming true BUT a big part of that is the time off and scarcity of fights. But back to the point, this post is more to recognize Garcia's talent and to affirm that is was indeed a close fight and that Garcia did more 'damage' imo. He wasn't busy enough, not enough intent behind the jab, but the power game was firmly in his favour. His head movement and ability to get off and get away whilst moving backwards all night was really impressive to me.

                              I'm glad Spence is an action fighter though, so we get entertaining tilt's like that. With his rangey jab and footwork he really doesn't HAVE to risk as much as he does.

                              Anyway, all in all it was a GREAT FIGHT
                              Liquor in the front, poker in the rear.

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                              • edaddy
                                MVP
                                • Jun 2004
                                • 2848

                                #5595
                                Re: Boxing Off-Topic

                                Originally posted by ggsimmonds
                                Think you guys are going overboard with this. Jake Paul isn't some lifelong boxer here.
                                No man its actually on point. If you haven't actually been in a ring or seen firsthand the dedication and training it takes to just be serviceable in the ring it's hard to guage . I don't know what your ring experience is but this goes more to the point that Jake Paul has put in time being a fighter he has trained to be a fighter and has had fights if he can do that to Nate that easy its because Nate doesnt have the ring experience or training at this point and you could see the difference immediately between both. Now Jake is a D level boxer at best and the difference was pronounced. Jake is making the mistake of thinking he can compete with real fighters because he knocked out Nate he will be the next in line to get knocked out if he steps above his level. I have true respect for the ring and the science of boxing Ive been in it and around it since I was 7 years old there is a respect earned when you step in the ring and those shots really do long term damage. Ive seen street fighters come in a gym and get stretchered out quick. The art of boxing is real and it's learned. Nate just learned the hard way..
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