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**JayBee74** · 07-30-2023, 12:22 AM

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Good luck trying to sell a rematch.

**ggsimmonds** · 07-30-2023, 01:14 AM

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That was a historic beatdown.

I'm curious as to what prompted the ref to ask the ringside doc to check on Spence at the start of rn 3 though.

**JayBee74** · 07-30-2023, 08:45 AM

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What I won't be paying for:

(1) Any weight advantage Canelo fight (next-smaller Charlo)
(2) Mayweather-Pacquia 2
(3) Paul Brother fights
(4) Crawford-Spence 2

**JayBee74** · 07-30-2023, 01:00 PM

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My only bet on the fight was Crawford in rounds 6 and 7 ($15 each). After round three I didn't think Spence would make it to 6. I was salivating when he was upright after five but was ultimately denied any payoff ($465 OR $390 respectively) as the loser wobbled around the ring only to be knocked down at the end of 7.

I guess there will be interest in Spence fighting Tszyu or 154 Charlo* (depending on outcome of Canelo fight*) when he moves up to light middleweight.

**allBthere** · 07-30-2023, 11:34 PM

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I saw a lot of stuff online about Boots going after Crawford - but I've NEVER seen anyone THAT dialed in especially against elite competition at the highest level. 60% power shots landed? wtf. Most guys hitting their stride like this it isn't a 1-off, it's more like a wave and right now he seems absolutely impossible to beat. He would annihilate anyone right now.

There was also footage of Plant slapping a Charlo backstage at that fight - that would be a decent one to see too.

I'm glad Mayweather was ringside for that too lol ... Bud handled that in a way he could only dream of.

**ojandpizza** · 07-31-2023, 12:05 AM

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Originally posted by ggsimmonds

That was a historic beatdown.

I'm curious as to what prompted the ref to ask the ringside doc to check on Spence at the start of rn 3 though.

Idk but when he got up from that knockdown at the end of round 2 it looks like he wasn’t going to be able to protect himself from another. Think he was definitely saved by the bell. Had that round went longer I think he’s done.

**edaddy** · 07-31-2023, 02:12 PM

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Originally posted by JayBee74

My only bet on the fight was Crawford in rounds 6 and 7 ($15 each). After round three I didn't think Spence would make it to 6. I was salivating when he was upright after five but was ultimately denied any payoff ($465 OR $390 respectively) as the loser wobbled around the ring only to be knocked down at the end of 7.

I guess there will be interest in Spence fighting Tszyu or 154 Charlo* (depending on outcome of Canelo fight*) when he moves up to light middleweight.

I think spence has a two filf problem. First I think his age the weight drain and those wars he has been in caught up to him!! he was actually wobbling from
a small counter left crawford hit him with in the first round but it was so quick no one noticed!! and another time in the first when spence pushed him off in a clinch spence looked like oh he strong as hell!! his reflexes are shot and worse his ability to take a shot or see the shot is gone!! two I think those accidents injuries surgeries and hard living caught up to him as well!! that was no spence in that ring his feet were awkward his high guard hand placement was off and he had a glaze in his eyes in the lockeroom!! I think he would do better in a rematch but not by much!! Crawford is a bad man is IQ speed and calmness is scary he completely shocked me!!Spence needs to fight a tuneup get the rematch and cash out !! the blueprint is there now
Spence will always have my respect he is a straight warrior!!

**pietasterp** · 07-31-2023, 02:24 PM

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Wow. I had no idea this was coming. I picked Crawford in a decision, but there's no way I thought the fight would look like this. I thought Crawford was technically a bit better than Spence, but I didn't know he was significantly better technically & physically. Spence didn't even look like he belonged in the ring with Crawford. Honestly, it was light work for Bud in there.

I can't really remember a 'superfight' between 2 elite guys where one of the guys was so much better than the other. And it's not like Spence was a paper tiger that had been opponent managed (like Canelo IMO) into stardom - Spence fought and beat the best in his class up to that point - wins over Kell Brook, Mikey Garcia, Shawn Porter, Danny Garcia, Yordenis Ugas...I mean, you can't ask a guy to fight more top level fighters than that. I mean, I think you could make a credible argument that prior to Saturday night, Spence's "resume" was better than Crawford's.

Of course, all of that is totally subjective and irrelevant now. That was such a decisive beat-down that I - like almost everyone else - see no reason that a rematch would ever need to happen. What's the point? It's not like Crawford is going to agree to rematch at 154 (why would he?), and even if he did, I'm still not sure it would make much of a difference. 147 Crawford still knocks out 154 Spence last Saturday night. That's how convincing the whole affair was.

Originally posted by JayBee74

What I won't be paying for:

(1) Any weight advantage Canelo fight (next-smaller Charlo)
(2) Mayweather-Pacquia 2
(3) Paul Brother fights
(4) Crawford-Spence 2

Total agreement here. Somehow, we're in a minority opinion on this though (!!!).

KG · 08-02-2023, 09:40 PM

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Originally posted by edaddy

I think spence has a two filf problem. First I think his age the weight drain and those wars he has been in caught up to him!! he was actually wobbling from
a small counter left crawford hit him with in the first round but it was so quick no one noticed!! and another time in the first when spence pushed him off in a clinch spence looked like oh he strong as hell!! his reflexes are shot and worse his ability to take a shot or see the shot is gone!! two I think those accidents injuries surgeries and hard living caught up to him as well!! that was no spence in that ring his feet were awkward his high guard hand placement was off and he had a glaze in his eyes in the lockeroom!! I think he would do better in a rematch but not by much!! Crawford is a bad man is IQ speed and calmness is scary he completely shocked me!!Spence needs to fight a tuneup get the rematch and cash out !! the blueprint is there now
Spence will always have my respect he is a straight warrior!!

I think the car accident played a bigger part than any of this tbh. He hasn’t looked right since IMO.

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**pietasterp** · 08-03-2023, 01:35 PM

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Yeah, it would be hard to believe you could be in a crash like that - easily could have been fatal - and not have it affect your physical attributes at all. Especially at the very top level like those guys live at, a 1-millisecond loss of reaction time or hand speed probably makes a difference in some way, however minor.

Who knows, I mean I'm just speculating of course. The raw data is that Crawford has no peers at 147 and the next best guy is not even particularly close.

**JayBee74** · 08-04-2023, 10:15 PM

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Originally posted by pietasterp

Who knows, I mean I'm just speculating of course. The raw data is that Crawford has no peers at 147 and the next best guy is not even particularly close.

Jaron 'Boots' Ennis is untested but lethal. He’s also going to be avoided like the plague by fighters like Thurman and Garcia. He would have beaten Spence last Saturday (IMO).

**Money99** · 08-14-2023, 09:30 AM

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I hope Wilder can win his tune-up bout and we finally get AJ-Wilder.
I know Fury is the best, but I honestly don't have much interest in watching him fight.
My hope is Wilder wins so we see him fight Usyk.

**allBthere** · 08-15-2023, 09:50 AM

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Originally posted by Money99

I hope Wilder can win his tune-up bout and we finally get AJ-Wilder.
I know Fury is the best, but I honestly don't have much interest in watching him fight.
My hope is Wilder wins so we see him fight Usyk.

I honestly want to see AJ v Fury as the best heavyweight matchup. I think his style and size is best suited for success vs Fury than anyone else and I'd like to see AJ beat him. It's all about matchups and that one is best imo.

I'd still like to see the wilder fight but for this generation I feel like the AJ Fury bout has to happen soon or it's gone - if Wilder were to win we'd end up seeing a 4th bout vs Fury which is fine, but I'd rather everyone fight each other first before someone like Fury hangs them up.

look at the 2nd Usyk fight - that was a great match! People already forget that and only look at the L - it was close and it was a war at times.

**JayBee74** · 08-21-2023, 10:20 PM

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Originally posted by Money99

I hope Wilder can win his tune-up bout and we finally get AJ-Wilder.
I know Fury is the best, but I honestly don't have much interest in watching him fight.
My hope is Wilder wins so we see him fight Usyk.

I think AJ gets a glass jaw tag for life if he ends up fighting Wilder. I'd love to see Usyk-Wilder but matchup-wise the Ukrainian is better off with Fury. I don't think he can take many direct hits from Deontay. I know you guys probably think I'm overvaluing Wilder but it's a matchup thing.

Originally posted by allBthere

I honestly want to see AJ v Fury as the best heavyweight matchup. I think his style and size is best suited for success vs Fury than anyone else and I'd like to see AJ beat him. It's all about matchups and that one is best imo.

I wouldn't mine seeing it but he'd have to beat Wilder to earn a shot.

Originally posted by allBthere

I'd still like to see the wilder fight but for this generation I feel like the AJ Fury bout has to happen soon or it's gone - if Wilder were to win we'd end up seeing a 4th bout vs Fury which is fine, but I'd rather everyone fight each other first before someone like Fury hangs them up.

I don't think Fury-Wilder 4 will ever happen.

**Money99** · 08-23-2023, 08:41 AM

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Originally posted by JayBee74

I think AJ gets a glass jaw tag for life if he ends up fighting Wilder. I'd love to see Usyk-Wilder but matchup-wise the Ukrainian is better off with Fury. I don't think he can take many direct hits from Deontay. I know you guys probably think I'm overvaluing Wilder but it's a matchup thing.

Totally agree.
Nobody is going to say Wilder is one of the greatest HWs ever.
But that right-hand is one of the best the division has seen.
He has said before, "You have to be perfect for 12 rounds. I only need to be perfect once" and it's true.

Sometimes I think HWs get a bad rap for having a glass jaw; these are very large, strong men throwing incredibly hard punches afterall.
But we have seen AJ struggle with taking direct shots and I don't think any of those opponents had the power that Wilder possesses.

AJ is clearly the better boxer, but Wilder's patience and ability to land that right-hand make for a dangerous fight for AJ.

P.S. I agree that we will never see Fury-Wilder 4 and I'm happy about that.

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