Boxing Off-Topic

[Cod]

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Sugar Hill Steward is very confident Tyson Fury is ready to take down AJ whenever the time comes.

https://www.boxingscene.com/fury-coach-confident-kronk-style-take-down-joshua--148057

[JayBee74]

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Sugar Hill Steward is very confident Tyson Fury is ready to take down AJ whenever the time comes.

https://www.boxingscene.com/fury-coa...joshua--148057

I'd pay for that before Fury-Wilder 3.

[allBthere]

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Been hittin' the elliptical almost everyday for 25min watching old fights. I started with some i've seen like Corrales Castillo 1 & 2, watched Foreman vs Holyfield, but for the first time last night I watched Larry Holmes vs Ken Norton. Great fight, and I've never watched much young Holmes, I wonly remember him as an older fatter heavyweight with a great jab, but he used to be alble to move!

I wouldn't mind seeing Norton matched vs other more brawler types too. Anyone have any recommendations especially for the 80s and 90s? 70s are great too but the broadcast quality takes a hit.

I've seen a lot of fights and used to own a collection of old black and white stuff like a lot of joe louis and marciano, sugar ray robinson etc.
Overall I'm looking for DRAMATIC fights - but not the obvious usual suspects that most have seen like gatti/ward. Stuff that would have been easier to miss maybe. I was a kid in the 80s but the first fight I remember seeing on TV after hearing so much about Mike Tyson was vs Buster Douglas! lol.. But a lot of the good stuff in the 80s I would have missed.

edit; last night was leonard hagler - great fight but kept wishing hagler would wallop leonard who kept holding too much for me

[steelcityjames]

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Been hittin' the elliptical almost everyday for 25min watching old fights. I started with some i've seen like Corrales Castillo 1 & 2, watched Foreman vs Holyfield, but for the first time last night I watched Larry Holmes vs Ken Norton. Great fight, and I've never watched much young Holmes, I wonly remember him as an older fatter heavyweight with a great jab, but he used to be alble to move!

I wouldn't mind seeing Norton matched vs other more brawler types too. Anyone have any recommendations especially for the 80s and 90s? 70s are great too but the broadcast quality takes a hit.

I've seen a lot of fights and used to own a collection of old black and white stuff like a lot of joe louis and marciano, sugar ray robinson etc.
Overall I'm looking for DRAMATIC fights - but not the obvious usual suspects that most have seen like gatti/ward. Stuff that would have been easier to miss maybe. I was a kid in the 80s but the first fight I remember seeing on TV after hearing so much about Mike Tyson was vs Buster Douglas! lol.. But a lot of the good stuff in the 80s I would have missed.

edit; last night was leonard hagler - great fight but kept wishing hagler would wallop leonard who kept holding too much for me

I would suggest watching more Larry Holmes in his prime. Holmes vs Cooney. Holmes vs Shavers. Larry Holmes was one of the best ever. He's very under appreciated because he got sandwiched between Ali and Tyson

[edaddy]

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Been hittin' the elliptical almost everyday for 25min watching old fights. I started with some i've seen like Corrales Castillo 1 & 2, watched Foreman vs Holyfield, but for the first time last night I watched Larry Holmes vs Ken Norton. Great fight, and I've never watched much young Holmes, I wonly remember him as an older fatter heavyweight with a great jab, but he used to be alble to move!

I wouldn't mind seeing Norton matched vs other more brawler types too. Anyone have any recommendations especially for the 80s and 90s? 70s are great too but the broadcast quality takes a hit.

I've seen a lot of fights and used to own a collection of old black and white stuff like a lot of joe louis and marciano, sugar ray robinson etc.
Overall I'm looking for DRAMATIC fights - but not the obvious usual suspects that most have seen like gatti/ward. Stuff that would have been easier to miss maybe. I was a kid in the 80s but the first fight I remember seeing on TV after hearing so much about Mike Tyson was vs Buster Douglas! lol.. But a lot of the good stuff in the 80s I would have missed.

edit; last night was leonard hagler - great fight but kept wishing hagler would wallop leonard who kept holding too much for me

A few of my favorites nan
Dokes vs Holyfield
Camacho vs Rosario
Arguello vs Pryor 1
Davey Moore vs Duran
Delahoya vs Moseley
Whitaker vs Chavez
Bowe vs Holyfield 1
All great fights for various reasons

[Money99]

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Tua-Ike was awesome.
One I recall watching on ABC's Wide World of Sports was Tommy Morrison vs Joe Hipp.
My brothers and I were laughing at what a one-dimensional, plodding Joe was. That was for maybe the first 3 or 4 rounds.
But his chin was like concrete. He took some massive shots and what looked to be like an early stoppage turned into a 12-round exhibit of heart and iron will. By the end, we were rooting for Hipp. What a tough, tough, man.

I'd be interested to watch Tubbs-Bowe again. I remember watching that on WWoS and thinking Tubbs won.

[JayBee74]

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Been hittin' the elliptical almost everyday for 25min watching old fights. I started with some i've seen like Corrales Castillo 1 & 2, watched Foreman vs Holyfield, but for the first time last night I watched Larry Holmes vs Ken Norton. Great fight, and I've never watched much young Holmes, I wonly remember him as an older fatter heavyweight with a great jab, but he used to be alble to move!

I saw it live on regular TV-it was a very exciting fight.

I wouldn't mind seeing Norton matched vs other more brawler types too. Anyone have any recommendations especially for the 80s and 90s? 70s are great too but the broadcast quality takes a hit.

As long as you don't match Kenny with a monster puncher unless you want to see a real quick fight.

[JayBee74]

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But a lot of the good stuff in the 80s I would have missed.

Leonard-Hearns I
Michael Spinks vs. Dwight Muhammad Qawi
Wilfred Gomez vs Salvador Sanchez

[allBthere]

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A few of my favorites nan
Dokes vs Holyfield
Camacho vs Rosario
Arguello vs Pryor 1
Davey Moore vs Duran
Delahoya vs Moseley
Whitaker vs Chavez
Bowe vs Holyfield 1
All great fights for various reasons

2 down! I heard someone on here I think or somewhere talking about the bowe Holyfield fight and how awesome it was - and it WAS, I may have actually seen it before but even if so, I didn't remember it so it was awesome. I'm going to bang out each of these over the next 2 weeks and the suggestions from Money and Jaybee. BTW that pictuer of Foreman absolutely starching Norton is incredible - like that is a no doubter grand slam KO... he's stiff as a board looking like a mannequin lol

[Money99]

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2 down! I heard someone on here I think or somewhere talking about the bowe Holyfield fight and how awesome it was - and it WAS, I may have actually seen it before but even if so, I didn't remember it so it was awesome. I'm going to bang out each of these over the next 2 weeks and the suggestions from Money and Jaybee. BTW that pictuer of Foreman absolutely starching Norton is incredible - like that is a no doubter grand slam KO... he's stiff as a board looking like a mannequin lol

I was lucky enough to watch Holyfield-Bowe live.
A friend of the family had one of those old-school satellite dishes that were the size of a small car.
He was the first and only one in town that we knew of who had this.
Anyway, it was 12 rounds of absolute awesomeness. Holyfield was always known as the guy who could come back hard after getting banged-up. But in this fight, there were multiple times where Bowe was the one who fired back after taking some hard shots.
One of the best HW championship fights (or any championship fight) of all time.

On a different note, Teddy Atlas was on ESPN this weekend discussing fights from the past.
One was the Tyson-Holmes fight. He told a story when Tyson was 15 years old.
He, Tyson and Cus were watching a prime Holmes fight when Cus D'Amato said that the 15YO Tyson would beat Holmes for the first 3 rounds. He knew he didn't have the experience or strength yet to last more than that, but for 3 rounds he would have given Holmes hell.
His reasoning was that Holmes wouldn't move his head after firing a jab. Cus commented that with Tyson's speed, power and defense, he'd fire a right-hand over that jab and tag him and that would be that.

Years later, Tyson is fighting Holmes and one of Atlas' buddies tells him that he thinks Holmes beats Tyson.
Atlas bets him a steak dinner that not only will Tyson stop Holmes, but it'll be from a right-hand.
Pretty cool insight.

[Cod]

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Has anyone heard any updates on the Inoue/Casimero fight scheduled for 25 April? Last I heard it may not happen because Inoue is stuck in Japan on lock down. I've never seen Inoue fight, only highlights. I'm ready to see this guy in action for real.

[JayBee74]

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Has anyone heard any updates on the Inoue/Casimero fight scheduled for 25 April? Last I heard it may not happen because Inoue is stuck in Japan on lock down. I've never seen Inoue fight, only highlights. I'm ready to see this guy in action for real.

For anything you want to say bad about Ring Magazine they do have a handy boxing schedule including TV or PPV listings but the next bout they have scheduled is Rungvisai vs. Amnat Ruenroeng May 2nd.

[allBthere]

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For anything you want to say bad about Ring Magazine they do have a handy boxing schedule including TV or PPV listings but the next bout they have scheduled is Rungvisai vs. Amnat Ruenroeng May 2nd.

I always check Boxrec for fighter stats and also scheduled events. I met the guy who made the site - but essentially it has all past and present fighters - so it's fun to look up past greats and the Norton post showing him get KO'd had me look up Gerry Cooney because I only remember seeing him losing in the clips I've seen - never saw him win. So coming from the 70s era I was surprised to see he only had 28 fights! lost 3 all time HOFer types but didn't really leave a big impact on the sport in terms of a legacy. https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/2463

Boxrec is a rabbit hole though because you click on this guy and see he lost to this guy and it just goes on and on haha.

[JayBee74]

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I always check Boxrec for fighter stats and also scheduled events. I met the guy who made the site - but essentially it has all past and present fighters - so it's fun to look up past greats and the Norton post showing him get KO'd had me look up Gerry Cooney because I only remember seeing him losing in the clips I've seen - never saw him win. So coming from the 70s era I was surprised to see he only had 28 fights! lost 3 all time HOFer types but didn't really leave a big impact on the sport in terms of a legacy. https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/2463

Boxrec is a rabbit hole though because you click on this guy and see he lost to this guy and it just goes on and on haha.

Yeah, I've used them for years but sometimes have had login problems and security issues.

For a quick glance I prefer Ring scheduling because they only list "relatively" major bouts and not the entire undercard. For a more comprehensive look obviously BoxRec is the way to go.

[edaddy]

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I always check Boxrec for fighter stats and also scheduled events. I met the guy who made the site - but essentially it has all past and present fighters - so it's fun to look up past greats and the Norton post showing him get KO'd had me look up Gerry Cooney because I only remember seeing him losing in the clips I've seen - never saw him win. So coming from the 70s era I was surprised to see he only had 28 fights! lost 3 all time HOFer types but didn't really leave a big impact on the sport in terms of a legacy. https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/2463

Boxrec is a rabbit hole though because you click on this guy and see he lost to this guy and it just goes on and on haha.

Lol funny you mention Cooney..back in the day he was the biggest name and superstar for a 3 yr run..he had excellent power and a great check hook but was strategically matched and branded as the Great White Hope..His fight with Holmes turned into a race thing..I saw the fight closed circuit in Jamaica Queens armory with my father it was the one night the streets set aside all beefs and united..Holmes outboxed him and punished him..The beast came out of Holmes that night.. my father said it was like Joe Louis vs Schmeling.which at that time was a racially based fight..memories my man..I think hbo fid a legendary nights documentary on it..