#PatchSpoilers

[SwedishTouch76]

Re: #PatchSpoilers

Can I beat jabronis up with Cyborg Geoff?

[aholbert32]

Re: #PatchSpoilers

I come back to this and still no spoiler about striking?

I hope you guys removed the combo multiplier or this patch won't change anything.

Also jabs, straights have more power than hooks hopefully its fixed.

Thats if the combo multiplier was the only problem....and it wasnt.

There are many issues and improvements that the dev team can add that will improve the game.

[GUCCI]

Re: #PatchSpoilers

Thats if the combo multiplier was the only problem....and it wasnt.

There are many issues and improvements that the dev team can add that will improve the game.

one of the biggest problems in this game. Everyone asked for removing

[Dave_S]

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I don't mind the idea of the multiplier, but don't think it should apply to other areas of the body.

For example someone shouldn't be able to build up multiplier with leg kicks kicks or body jabs and then use a head strike that gets extra damage.

I would think successive strikes to a single area would cause extra damage in real life, buy that's 100% speculation. Well 99% speculation, I know from experience stubbing same toe in fairly quick succession sucks, bad.

[GUCCI]

Re: #PatchSpoilers

There is a huge problem with this combo multiplier.

If a guy throw jab, straight followed by a leg kick it causes a hit stun and they can land a free head kick.

I don't like it all. Because of the combo multiplier people throw unreal combo's.

[JRed529]

Re: #PatchSpoilers

Keep up the spoilers, GPD! Thanks!!!

[TheLostHighway]

Re: #PatchSpoilers

There is a huge problem with this combo multiplier.

If a guy throw jab, straight followed by a leg kick it causes a hit stun and they can land a free head kick.

I don't like it all. Because of the combo multiplier people throw unreal combo's.

That's a real combo though. And I'm sure there is a good chance you would be stunned enough to get head kicked in some cases if you took that. As for every time like in the game, no, obviously not. Should be changed, yes.

It's a 1-2-10 BTW. In the number system. Unless you throw a 9 on it, then it would be a 1-2-9, of course. Some people try to hit with the jab(1), fake with the straight(2) then follow with the kick, whichever you choose, body, head, or leg.

[TheLostHighway]

Re: #PatchSpoilers

I'm sorry if you're bought the game and don't enjoy it. But it's far from broken.

-----EDITED OUT MY JERKY COMMENTS FROM MY RESPONSE. APOLOGIES TO OTHER FORUM MEMBERS FOR SETTING A BAD EXAMPLE AND SHOWING HOW NOT TO RESPOND TO A DEV WHEN ONE ACTUALLY REPLIES. NOBODY MADE ME DO THIS, IT WAS MY OWN REALIZATION THAT I WAS GOING ABOUT IT THE WRONG WAY. APOLOGIES TO THE DEV.-----

Then why have you had to fix it numerous times?

I'm still a customer who paid. You know what's going to happen as for fixes, and yet you don't let the customers know about how the product they paid for is going to be fixed so you can entertain yourself?

I'm just a customer asking for information that has already been decided and it's not being released for no reason beyond that it's entertaining to a few other customers to release it in a few short blips at a time.

If they want to read a few at a time then they can choose to do so and only read a few notes when they choose, but don't force the rest of the customers into that situation when the option is there to satisfy both sides of the argument.

One option satisfies both parties.
One option satisfies one party.

Hard customer service choice, really?

My opinion, but you are absolutely in the wrong here.

Why does one patch spoiler get privilege over another?
Patch Spoiler Privilege?

#AllPatchSpoilersMatter
#PatchSpoilerMovement
#DevPrivilege
#MoneyMoneyMoneyMoneyMoney

EDIT: You know, i realize you're a busy guy and i actually appreciate that you took the time to respond to my first complaint. Not so poor customer service. I don't want you to think i am sitting here getting all bent out of shape over a video game, nor would i want you to think something you enjoyed doing and creating made someone so angry or ruined their day. My concerns as a customer probably don't translate too well through text on a screen.

Please, don't take what i say harshly, it's just frustrating because i see the potential of the game and what it could be, and we owe this to you dev's.

Just know that this forum holds so much information for you to help improve the game if you just have a strong enough want to find that information so as you can make something truly epic and legendary as far as MMA video games go.

I encourage you to just take a day to read through some topics. Even the Troll's have good points if you can read between the lines because they are frustrated with the game, that's why they troll. You have to realize they feel just as trolled by advertisements for the game and then what they got was different than advertised, or what the majority got from the advertisements.

There are some really good ideas by some really serious players on this forum. To just pass that knowledge up and let it go to waste only shows the seriousness of the want to make a good MMA game over wanting to fleece pockets of money.

Reach out to some forum members via PM. Please, don't settle on just making the standard game every year.

EDIT 2: How can we help you? Please, let us know how to better communicate. Help us help ourselves and you.

Would it be beneficial for us to create a forum Government so as we can decide what the main concerns of the week are before presenting them to you in a well organized fashion through an intermediary so as you don't have to do the work all by yourself?

I think what's more frustrating for us customers is that the issues we have with the game are mostly fixable, BUT the communication process is a very small bottleneck, through no fault of your own.

So, how do we be the most helpful for YOU. How do we set YOU up for success with ideas form us?

[Dave_S]

Re: #PatchSpoilers

The current modifier system with leg strikes effecting body strikes effecting head strikes is ludicrous, to say otherwise is hogwash

[Kado8118]

Re: #PatchSpoilers

I DO NOT prefer one by one spoilers. I understand the "getting time to talk about things one at a time", BUT, i want the same, fair amount of time to talk about all patches being implemented.

I don't need days to talk about high/low blocking for liver events, but i'm sure one of the last patch notes would benefit form days, and we will probably get it as the last one.

IMHO, just give a full list and let the community decide what the topic should be.

ALSO, to the people saying he doesn't "Have to" come in here and communicate with us, you're right, BUT that's also bad customer service to purposely be non-communicative when there is a forum to do so. It's bad business and the practice of being secretive about video games should probably stop to be quite honest.

Customer service is number one. Don't try and make the frustration a fun and games thing, people don't want to jump through hoops for information. just give them the information w/out the coyness, they already payed for it.

EDIT: Nobody would accept this type of information release form their mechanic. Just do business as it should be done.

Let's pretend you called your mechanic...

YOU: Hey, have you figured it out yet?
Mech: Yeah, we know what we're going to fix, and we'll do it on Tuesday.
YOU: Awesome, so what are you going to fix?
Mech: Uh... a few things.
YOU: And those things being?
Mech: i don't know, like one of your brake lines was a little loose and stuff.
YOU: Can you just tell me what you're going to fix since you already know full well?
Mech: I just told you about the brake line, why so pushy, friend. Isn't this more fun?
YOU: No, i just want to stop wasting my time on the phone to your shop, giving your shop phone hits every time i call... (I see the business here. slow leak generates hundreds of more clicks to the site per hour)
Mech: Look, call back in a few hours and i'll give you another item we're going to fix...
YOU: I'm calling the better business bureau...

Just because it's video games doesn't mean it isn't bad business to act like clowns. I'm a customer who payed for a broken product, stop jerking me around. If it wasn't broken then why are you fixing it again, and again, and again. That's the reality of it. You think this is fun for people?

I'd return the game if it wasn't past the date of being able to do so. The return dates should restart with every patch on video games since every other business extends their warranties and returns for faulty products that need to be fixed.

This is pretty much what i was getting at. Quit jerkin your fanbase/costumers around... It's annoying, not fun. Just tell us what we can expect in the new patch and be done with it.

[Bigg Cee]

Re: #PatchSpoilers

Please any info on Arm Traps or Takedowns or anything that has to do with the ground game. This I need to know!

[GUCCI]

Re: #PatchSpoilers

That's a real combo though. And I'm sure there is a good chance you would be stunned enough to get head kicked in some cases if you took that. As for every time like in the game, no, obviously not. Should be changed, yes.

It's a 1-2-10 BTW. In the number system. Unless you throw a 9 on it, then it would be a 1-2-9, of course. Some people try to hit with the jab(1), fake with the straight(2) then follow with the kick, whichever you choose, body, head, or leg.

I hope you are joking. 1-2 leg kick and then go straight for head kick that I can't even block but I know its coming?

You are talking about another combination.

I am not saying jab, fake straight and then go for head kick or leg kick... People never use the feints in the game because all they care about is combo multiplier and if you use feints your combo multiplier is gone...

What I am saying is 1-2, leg kick and you get stunned and then they do head kick. This is stupid.

[aholbert32]

Re: #PatchSpoilers

one of the biggest problems in this game. Everyone asked for removing

Not everyone. There are plenty of people who dont mind the combo multiplier. I honestly dont care if its in the game or not. My focus is on an increasing in single strike stopping power.

I'm also not that optimistic there will be major striking changes at this point in the game. Especially since its likely in my opinion that EA will focus more on striking in the next game (if there is one).

[aholbert32]

Re: #PatchSpoilers

-----EDITED OUT MY JERKY COMMENTS FROM MY RESPONSE. APOLOGIES TO OTHER FORUM MEMBERS FOR SETTING A BAD EXAMPLE AND SHOWING HOW NOT TO RESPOND TO A DEV WHEN ONE ACTUALLY REPLIES. NOBODY MADE ME DO THIS, IT WAS MY OWN REALIZATION THAT I WAS GOING ABOUT IT THE WRONG WAY. APOLOGIES TO THE DEV.-----

Then why have you had to fix it numerous times?

I'm still a customer who paid. You know what's going to happen as for fixes, and yet you don't let the customers know about how the product they paid for is going to be fixed so you can entertain yourself?

I'm just a customer asking for information that has already been decided and it's not being released for no reason beyond that it's entertaining to a few other customers to release it in a few short blips at a time.

If they want to read a few at a time then they can choose to do so and only read a few notes when they choose, but don't force the rest of the customers into that situation when the option is there to satisfy both sides of the argument.

One option satisfies both parties.
One option satisfies one party.

Hard customer service choice, really?

My opinion, but you are absolutely in the wrong here.

Why does one patch spoiler get privilege over another?
Patch Spoiler Privilege?

#AllPatchSpoilersMatter
#PatchSpoilerMovement
#DevPrivilege
#MoneyMoneyMoneyMoneyMoney

EDIT: You know, i realize you're a busy guy and i actually appreciate that you took the time to respond to my first complaint. Not so poor customer service. I don't want you to think i am sitting here getting all bent out of shape over a video game, nor would i want you to think something you enjoyed doing and creating made someone so angry or ruined their day. My concerns as a customer probably don't translate too well through text on a screen.

Please, don't take what i say harshly, it's just frustrating because i see the potential of the game and what it could be, and we owe this to you dev's.

Just know that this forum holds so much information for you to help improve the game if you just have a strong enough want to find that information so as you can make something truly epic and legendary as far as MMA video games go.

I encourage you to just take a day to read through some topics. Even the Troll's have good points if you can read between the lines because they are frustrated with the game, that's why they troll. You have to realize they feel just as trolled by advertisements for the game and then what they got was different than advertised, or what the majority got from the advertisements.

There are some really good ideas by some really serious players on this forum. To just pass that knowledge up and let it go to waste only shows the seriousness of the want to make a good MMA game over wanting to fleece pockets of money.

Reach out to some forum members via PM. Please, don't settle on just making the standard game every year.

EDIT 2: How can we help you? Please, let us know how to better communicate. Help us help ourselves and you.

Would it be beneficial for us to create a forum Government so as we can decide what the main concerns of the week are before presenting them to you in a well organized fashion through an intermediary so as you don't have to do the work all by yourself?

I think what's more frustrating for us customers is that the issues we have with the game are mostly fixable, BUT the communication process is a very small bottleneck, through no fault of your own.

So, how do we be the most helpful for YOU. How do we set YOU up for success with ideas form us?

This is an example of the issue I have with many of the forum members (not just calling you out Lost Highway).

Dont assume just because a change hasnt been made that the Devs arent aware of the comments or ideas from people in the forums.

The devs are VERY aware of the posts that are made here. They read the forums. The gamechangers regularly read the forums and post links to threads so that we can get the input from devs and so that they are aware of the new ideas.

Also while many things may appear to be easily "fixable", thats not always the case. I'll give you an example:

Nate Diaz's shorts. For the past two months, people have been complaining that Nate has the wrong shorts in the game. The devs have been aware of the complaint pretty much since the beta. So when I saw another comment about Nate's shorts, I asked the devs why it wasnt fixed because it seemed like an easy fix.

They explained to me that it wasnt as easy as just switching the shorts. It cant go into the details because of the NDA (hopefully one of the devs will comment on it) but it was more complicated than I thought. What sucks is that many people here just think that EA is ignoring the issue when they arent. Its just more difficult to fix than people think.

Another issue is communication. The Gamechangers are under an NDA so that means that we legally arent allowed to discuss many things we learn or discuss with the devs. Also, the devs arent allowed to discuss things in future patches or things being considered for next game.

So you may have an incredible idea for UFC 3 or change for UFC 2. The devs may see it and think its a great idea that they may want to use in the future. The problem is they are limited in what they can communicate at this point when it comes to future changes or potential features for a future game. Even if the GCers know that the dev team is considering a feature, we cant discuss it unless EA gives us permission.

Last thing: Sure some of the trolls may have good info...but thats not the best way to get an idea across. OS is a board geared for adult conversation. The devs shouldnt be forced to read posts that insult them or exaggerate issues with the game just to get helpful feedback.

Given that people have been given the chance to adjust their posting style to something that is more constructive, the people who dont adjust will likely get banned. Credit to you for realizing that you dont have to insult someone to get your point across.

[GUCCI]

Re: #PatchSpoilers

Not everyone. There are plenty of people who dont mind the combo multiplier. I honestly dont care if its in the game or not. My focus is on an increasing in single strike stopping power.

I'm also not that optimistic there will be major striking changes at this point in the game. Especially since its likely in my opinion that EA will focus more on striking in the next game (if there is one).

single strike stopping power+ combo multiplier is very bad.


I also want single strike stopping power. But the problem is with the first patch the stopping power makes no sense.

You don't even have to time your shot like the stopping power from the jab,straight (first patch). people can just spam 1,2,1,2 and stop everything.. If they add stopping power it needs to make sense more about timing your shots and not spamming and stop everything that comes at your way like (takedowns, strikes) if people spam needs to be punished more..

I want them to buff the single strike damage, add single strike stopping power ( if they make sense and you can't just spam front kicks, jabs etc) and get rid of the combo multiplier. Basically more UD 3 way of gameplay in stand up.