Ugly Knock Outs - Give me your worst examples

[ShogunRua]

Re: Ugly Knock Outs - Give me your worst examples

@GPD - Can you explain what has been improved with the tuned knockdowns, specifically? Are the character models able to go more limp/ragdoll?

UFC 2's ragdolls were occasionally over the top, but mostly spectacular! They added so much replay value, even with the sub-par striking mechanics (which are awesome in UFC 3, btw)

I've attached a couple of stiff looking knockdowns. As people have mentioned before, they really hurt the replay value of the game, and become very repetative quickly.

Man. We desperately need the rag doll system back.

[kidd_krispy]

Re: Ugly Knock Outs - Give me your worst examples

anyone know where i can post feedback for the beta?

[saffa_nz]

Re: Ugly Knock Outs - Give me your worst examples

I can't post a video right now but there are a few animations which need to be removed entirely.

Specifically the animation where the losing fighter gets KOd and just freezes up but remains standing then slowly sort of falls down. It looks so terrible.

There needs to be momentum carried across on almost all KOs but muted from what we saw in ufc2.

Honestly the majority of my KOs have looked good which makes the really unrealistic ones break immersion even more.

[CrazyFooL]

Re: Ugly Knock Outs - Give me your worst examples

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/pfP_c5h7sEQ?start=17" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

momentum is off. Would like to see more rag doll like physics as posted above.

[Dcooks]

Re: Ugly Knock Outs - Give me your worst examples

These ko's from harmless jabs have to stop!

[Generative James]

Re: Ugly Knock Outs - Give me your worst examples

I'm hoping this is just a testing phase for the KO animations and the retail version will have a mixture of pre-rendered and ragdoll KOs.

Big fan of the unique ragdoll KOs.

[melo627]

Re: Ugly Knock Outs - Give me your worst examples

Please bring back the ragdoll for Kos just give them more weight so they don't go flying.thats were we all can meet in the middle.everyone can agree that these animations have to go it's not 2003.we can't have euphoria so ragdoll is the best option

[ShogunRua]

Re: Ugly Knock Outs - Give me your worst examples

Seems pretty clear that the majority want the ragdoll physics back. I wish it would come back so bad and get ride of all the pre rendered knockouts. The knockdowns are fine being pre rendered and I quite enjoy them. But the kos need to be ragdoll

[melo627]

Re: Ugly Knock Outs - Give me your worst examples

@gpd is complete ragdoll a option? Pre canned stuff has to go it ruins replay value

[Mr_Cool_Ice]

Re: Ugly Knock Outs - Give me your worst examples

Good example of 2 identical ko animations.

The Nurmagomedov knockout is especially awkward, he appears to fall the wrong way!

Thanks for looking into this, GPD!

[melo627]

Re: Ugly Knock Outs - Give me your worst examples

Almost every knockdown is a example of a bad knodown honestly

[bejahamps]

Re: Ugly Knock Outs - Give me your worst examples

I don't agree.

There are a few issues.
1) The animations ARE repetitive, I instantly recognized one from Fight Night Champion, and a few from UFC 1. One that stands out is when you KO someone with an uppercut, most of the time they have the exact same animation. To people who have played the series, it's obvious and feels like a cop-out. You can land an epic counter that results in a KO that just...I dunno...completely saps the excitement of what you just hit them with. Seeing someone get KO'd and fall down without any conservation of momentum breaks the immersion quite a lot.
2) They don't ragdoll, and are extremely stiff. Going from ragdolls to animations feels like a huge step backward.
3) A lot of the time, they don't seem relevant to the strike that caused them.
4) For the absolute vast majority, the KO's in UFC 2 looked very, very good. They were almost perfect. There were some goofy ones but for the most part, they looked very realistic.
5) The fight instantly ends and camera zooms in. I recognized this from UFC 1 and the UFC 2 beta. It's like the code was copy + pasted from a version of the game that is outdated, as UFC 2 has this tuned almost perfectly. Feels like an important feature was straight up removed.

@GPD: IS there a reason why we can't just have it work exactly like it did in UFC 2?

PLEASE GOD NO MORE RAGDOLL

[bejahamps]

Re: Ugly Knock Outs - Give me your worst examples

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/6WLmWQFJaLY" frameborder="0" gesture="media" allow="encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe>

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/_hOjzH6FJnE" frameborder="0" gesture="media" allow="encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe>
the first link is the bad ufc 3 kos. They seem scripted and stiff and seem like when they get hit the game is trying to render a ko like it doesn’t know which way to drop and it takes a second to load. The second is ufc 2 and showing off how amazing the rag doll looks. It looks realistic.

TBF, that's the best of UFC 2 and the very worst of UFC 3

[Mr_Cool_Ice]

Re: Ugly Knock Outs - Give me your worst examples

TBF, that's the best of UFC 2 and the very worst of UFC 3

Did you play UFC 2? Most of the knockouts were amazing. The ragdoll issues were rare, and were always entertaining when they did happen. The stiff animations in UFC 3 are repetitive as hell, and not entertaining.

[thomasryche]

Re: Ugly Knock Outs - Give me your worst examples

Actually i think the UFC 2 knockout animation were bad it always looked like someone was playing with the gravity.
Undisputed 3 ko were animations but i don't remember any complaints about them