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  • teezie
    Rookie
    • Jun 2004
    • 140

    #181
    Re: Why can people play like terminators

    Originally posted by Brutha_E
    You could try to either cut them off before they come in with leg kicks or straights (stopping power) or try to get a better grasp on the weave and slip mechanics. A lot of people are spamming knees and elbows which i think could be tuned but it is possible to avoid damage from pressure players. Better still if you can effectively punish with clinches they will back off.
    This is the best advice. You have to get better at circling away from pressure fighters with footwork. I also second the advice about getting good with the clinch/grappling/ground work, it really gives pressure fighters pause from pressuring wrecklessly/unrealistically all fight. You can fight with space in this game but you gotta earn it.

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    • Phillyboi207
      Banned
      • Apr 2012
      • 3159

      #182
      Re: Why can people play like terminators

      Originally posted by Lauriedr1ver
      Splitting the fan base at bit there. Plus some people will prefer the slower pace but still like the unrealistic stamina. Being consitant with the gameplay is way forward.
      The fanbase is already split lol

      Only other way to please everyone is online sliders imo

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      • Lauriedr1ver
        Pro
        • Nov 2017
        • 545

        #183
        Re: Why can people play like terminators

        Originally posted by Phillyboi207
        The fanbase is already split lol

        Only other way to please everyone is online sliders imo
        That would be much better. Would have to be for quick fight only.

        For ranked to be the "competitive mode" it has to be consitant

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        • oshighwayman
          Rookie
          • Apr 2016
          • 357

          #184
          Re: Why can people play like terminators

          Originally posted by RetractedMonkey
          I'm a former MMA fighter with over 25 fights and lifelong experience with the sport. This combo goes against all body mechanics. You can definitely throw it without losing balance, but you won't BE balanced while throwing it. Does that make sense? There also isn't any power on the elbow when you're coming back into stance. There would have to be a slight pause before throwing it. Making it the definition of a soft combo in gameplay terms.

          Now the elbow into knee combo is legit. Body mechanics work fine because you're loading the knee with your positioning after the elbow.

          I will also note that you can easily do the knee-elbow combo in real life as long as you don't extend your knee (less power, less defense). You can lift your knee up to barely take you out of stance, but that's not how knees are generally thrown and it certainly isn't how the animation is in game. Not to mention that the knee will push/make someone back up, taking them out of elbow range. And since you were just on one leg, it isn't feasible to follow them with the elbow.

          u claim this, u claim that, why dont u just write real guide/tutorial for ufc3, information is scattered all around this world it s just sad


          in like 20 post of urs i finally see something of value where u can actually people by stating facts and sharing techniques how to overcome certain problems


          u claim to love helping people, so why dont just do that?

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          • RematchKing
            Rookie
            • Nov 2018
            • 61

            #185
            Re: Why can people play like terminators

            Originally posted by Haz_____
            Now first off, can that type of striking be dealt with? Sure. of course. We have talked about in it many of the other threads. Duck a punch and counter. Slip and Counter. Use lunge back to create distance. Etc. But whether it can be dealt with is not the point. The point is, that it shouldn't even be possible in the first place. You shouldn't be able to throw 140 strikes, and still start round 2 just fine.
            1000x THIS. People are freaking acting like it’s wrong for me to state fact that this is unrealistic. They want to moan about other things not being realistic but they think it’s okay for people to have the cardio of a freaking race horse? Then you can’t even use the push because they can literally just strike right through it. Doesn’t even do much when you catch them in the tiny opening in their constant combo stream because they either punch you in the face and the push has no effect, or it pushes them back like 1 foot and they take one step and they’re back on you like white on rice.

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            • RetractedMonkey
              MVP
              • Dec 2017
              • 1624

              #186
              Re: Why can people play like terminators

              Originally posted by oshighwayman
              u claim this, u claim that, why dont u just write real guide/tutorial for ufc3, information is scattered all around this world it s just sad


              in like 20 post of urs i finally see something of value where u can actually people by stating facts and sharing techniques how to overcome certain problems


              u claim to love helping people, so why dont just do that?
              Get a grip, dude. I know you're like five years old but you can do a little bit better.

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              • Phillyboi207
                Banned
                • Apr 2012
                • 3159

                #187
                Re: Why can people play like terminators

                Originally posted by RematchKing
                1000x THIS. People are freaking acting like it’s wrong for me to state fact that this is unrealistic. They want to moan about other things not being realistic but they think it’s okay for people to have the cardio of a freaking race horse? Then you can’t even use the push because they can literally just strike right through it. Doesn’t even do much when you catch them in the tiny opening in their constant combo stream because they either punch you in the face and the push has no effect, or it pushes them back like 1 foot and they take one step and they’re back on you like white on rice.
                Are you xbox or playstation?

                I can show you ways to combat pressure and to gas guys out.

                This game isnt a sim and both competitive/ casual crowd enjoy unrealistic stamina

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                • RematchKing
                  Rookie
                  • Nov 2018
                  • 61

                  #188
                  Re: Why can people play like terminators

                  Originally posted by Phillyboi207
                  Are you xbox or playstation?

                  I can show you ways to combat pressure and to gas guys out.

                  This game isnt a sim and both competitive/ casual crowd enjoy unrealistic stamina
                  I’m on PS4, pm me.

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                  • ryangil23
                    Rookie
                    • May 2016
                    • 418

                    #189
                    Re: Why can people play like terminators

                    Slipping jabs can help a lot with stopping them breaking your block. Even if you only slip the jab and then block rather than always trying to slip the next punch and risk being rocked.

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                    • rabbitfistssaipailo
                      MVP
                      • Nov 2017
                      • 1625

                      #190
                      Re: Why can people play like terminators

                      Originally posted by ryangil23
                      Slipping jabs can help a lot with stopping them breaking your block. Even if you only slip the jab and then block rather than always trying to slip the next punch and risk being rocked.
                      I would rather plant and throw a single straight ...it will beat two jabs and cause a hit stun . Bobbing and weaving will cost you stamina in the later rounds.

                      Sent from my Infinix X604 using Operation Sports mobile app

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                      • RetractedMonkey
                        MVP
                        • Dec 2017
                        • 1624

                        #191
                        Re: Why can people play like terminators

                        Originally posted by rabbitfistssaipailo
                        I would rather plant and throw a single straight ...it will beat two jabs and cause a hit stun . Bobbing and weaving will cost you stamina in the later rounds.

                        Sent from my Infinix X604 using Operation Sports mobile app


                        Throwing the straight and landing will cost more stamina than slipping nothing. Slipping one strike without striking back is something I recommend often. You maintain safety and drain their stamina while maintaining your own. You can then take it to them in the later rounds.


                        Sent from my iPhone using Operation Sports

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                        • bmlimo
                          MVP
                          • Apr 2016
                          • 1123

                          #192
                          Re: Why can people play like terminators

                          Originally posted by Phillyboi207
                          Are you xbox or playstation?

                          I can show you ways to combat pressure and to gas guys out.

                          This game isnt a sim and both competitive/ casual crowd enjoy unrealistic stamina
                          On spot... people need to understand that this game isn’t a sim game and high level player and casuals don’t care about it... so or u love the game how it is arcade with some sim aspects or u find something else to do...

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                          • UFCBlackbelt
                            MVP
                            • Jan 2018
                            • 1067

                            #193
                            Re: Why can people play like terminators

                            Originally posted by bmlimo
                            On spot... people need to understand that this game isn’t a sim game and high level player and casuals don’t care about it... so or u love the game how it is arcade with some sim aspects or u find something else to do...
                            That's false, the majority of high level players I know are huge fans of MMA and want the best for it.

                            There are some who are hesitant to implement change though, for example when duck uppercuts were a thing I advocated hard against the head movement system and some defended it, but the majority of players don't.

                            The truth is, unfortunately, a pure sim wouldn't do very well for entertainment. People just don't play fighting games like people fight in real life. Nobody feels the pain, so they tend to be more aggressive. There is no handfighting and proper feints yet, but we are as close to it as we have ever been. There are a lot of systems in place that make this the best MMA game ever so far imo.

                            I still support the idea of a sim mode, but please understand that the high level players who are currently dominating will most likely dominate sim mode with a similar style with just minor variance. There is no perfect style at the moment, you can be a defensive fighter with great grappling like Advaita or a high offense pressure fighter like Edparker and Preunited.

                            If you adjust stamina settings, you need to adjust block and damage. So if it becomes that, the player base would essentially play the same style that worked for them anyways, just with quicker consequences and we would see more KOs.

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                            • Phillyboi207
                              Banned
                              • Apr 2012
                              • 3159

                              #194
                              Re: Why can people play like terminators

                              Originally posted by UFCBlackbelt
                              If you adjust stamina settings, you need to adjust block and damage. So if it becomes that, the player base would essentially play the same style that worked for them anyways, just with quicker consequences and we would see more KOs.
                              *sigh* one can only dream

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                              • LoveThisLife
                                Rookie
                                • Oct 2018
                                • 92

                                #195
                                Re: Why can people play like terminators

                                Originally posted by UFCBlackbelt
                                That's false, the majority of high level players I know are huge fans of MMA and want the best for it.

                                There are some who are hesitant to implement change though, for example when duck uppercuts were a thing I advocated hard against the head movement system and some defended it, but the majority of players don't.

                                The truth is, unfortunately, a pure sim wouldn't do very well for entertainment. People just don't play fighting games like people fight in real life. Nobody feels the pain, so they tend to be more aggressive. There is no handfighting and proper feints yet, but we are as close to it as we have ever been. There are a lot of systems in place that make this the best MMA game ever so far imo.

                                I still support the idea of a sim mode, but please understand that the high level players who are currently dominating will most likely dominate sim mode with a similar style with just minor variance. There is no perfect style at the moment, you can be a defensive fighter with great grappling like Advaita or a high offense pressure fighter like Edparker and Preunited.

                                If you adjust stamina settings, you need to adjust block and damage. So if it becomes that, the player base would essentially play the same style that worked for them anyways, just with quicker consequences and we would see more KOs.
                                There is a guy on these forums that claims to be all for change, however, was all about keeping head movement the same upon release (ducking-upper seasons). Which is why I say ween need to keep raising our voice about this issue.

                                Also, this is not about making "High Level" fighters lose. Its to make the game feel balanced. Just fought BrianTriangelCity yesterday and the guy threw 134 strikes in the first round at HW. It is simply ridiculous.

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