How was yukes able to please both hardcores and casuals but only casuals matter in ea

[1212headkick]

Re: How was yukes able to please both hardcores and casuals but only casuals matter i

Geoffs best work was the striking. He could of made the groind better but its ea to blame.

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[MixedMetalArts]

Re: How was yukes able to please both hardcores and casuals but only casuals matter i

Not gonna lie, I don't have a dog in this fight anymore but it's real entertaining seeing GPD's honest thoughts now that he's not part of the team.
Pretty sure he's got a good 8(?) years of "oy na get f***d" built up. Enjoy it Geoff, you deserve it.

[Windtear]

Re: How was yukes able to please both hardcores and casuals but only casuals matter i

aholbert usually explains these pretty well during arguments/discussions. At some point it juust has to be accepted and move on. Im a hardcore fan and would love if the game was suited for hardcores a bit more but it is what it is. Nothing we can really do at this point except take it or leave it. The question for me is why do some of the people who swore up and down they were not gonna play it or support but do otherwise because "the game was a gift"?

It amazes me how some folks don't realize people still buy UFC 4 regardless how bad UFC 3 was only because it got UFC license, with all the star power and nearly the entire UFC fighter roaster in the bag not to mention EA's blank check.

The real question is, will this game stands a chance without UFC license with its concurrent quality if it was just a generic MMA wannabe after they made 3 bad games in a row which average out 3.7/10 in user review?

I have no shame to admit that I bought UFC 4 even tho I hated every thing about UFC 3 only because I want experience the latest UFC roaster and I had some positive hope that this game will improve for better, but I was wrong.

[LarsP]

Re: How was yukes able to please both hardcores and casuals but only casuals matter i

To add to that, according to the devs, players have indicated that they would prefer a better career mode over a universe/franchise mode.

I think most of that is because of bad messaging on EA's part but it is what it is.

And it still is absolutely atrocious.

[ryangil23]

Re: How was yukes able to please both hardcores and casuals but only casuals matter i

What I take from this is that they apparently designed the striking 100% towards hardcores and yet casuals mostly seem to prefer striking.

Maybe you’re better off trying to make a good game and the casuals who are new to the sport will actually like it rather than trying to cater to them with what you think they’d like.

MMA is still kinda niche. Putting in silly masks and arenas would do more harm than good if you’re trying to attract people who basically just watch McGregor and the odd main event here and there. I doubt some kid who plays fortnite and isn’t into MMA at all will pick the game up because there’s 1 arena or they can put cowboy hats on their fighters. Could be wrong but just anecdotally, I have friends who are gamers and watch MMA but don’t really play the ufc games just say “I heard they put in masks and fighters with pink hair & sh*t”.

[Phillyboi207]

Re: How was yukes able to please both hardcores and casuals but only casuals matter i

I couldn't agree with this more. I'm not sure what specific features people are complaining about, but for me the only thing I'm missing is a universe/franchise/GM mode everything else would have been fluff when the only thing I want is a way to manage my own MMA company in the game with good gameplay. Otherwise this game has by far the best MMA gameplay period. If you disagree then I challenge you to spend more time with it or play the career mode more. Sure there was a lot of "casual" features added, but none of them affect me because I have the OPTION to not utilize them. I don't know if we'll ever get a true universe mode in the near future, but since I'm able to archive custom events and the game is so fun I have what I need if I use a simple spreadsheet to manage my league. Again I'm able to have my little fantasy MMA company and enjoy a really solid MMA game. I' might be unique because I work in Data Analytics and Operations so it's easy for me to make a spreadsheet that fills the franchise mode gaps in this game. Finally, stop complaining if you already have an MMA game that you think is better. I mean if Undisputed is so much better than why even play the EA games? You can just play Undisputed forever and not worry about the games EA puts out. Just enjoy what is available because I think this is better than what we had before even though it's missing stuff from our wishlist and if you disagree you can still play the old games that you like more anyway.

If there was a roster update for UFC 3 I would 100% play that over UFC 4.

[Kingslayer04]

Re: How was yukes able to please both hardcores and casuals but only casuals matter i

If there was a roster update for UFC 3 I would 100% play that over UFC 4.

Funny thing is there's not even a roster update for UFC 4.

[Phillyboi207]

Re: How was yukes able to please both hardcores and casuals but only casuals matter i

Funny thing is there's not even a roster update for UFC 4.

The stats are updated.

I really hope UFC makes it to PC so people can edit stats and mod other things

[LarsP]

Re: How was yukes able to please both hardcores and casuals but only casuals matter i

So GPD is saying that they stopped caring about the hardcores because they were critical of UFC 3's striking? lmao

I'm honestly dumbfounded about the fact they really seem to think they've done a good job at EA, and constantly come up with new excuses as to why they release a product that is mediocre at best time after time.

[Kingslayer04]

Re: How was yukes able to please both hardcores and casuals but only casuals matter i

The stats are updated.

If really hope UFC makes it to PC so people can edit stats and mod other things

The stats are updated . That should be a given. And I don't mean to discredit your work, or that of aholbert, or Aydin (think he worked on them too if I'm not mistaken), this has nothing to do with you. But if you have to mention that the stats are now up to date...yeah.

[Phillyboi207]

Re: How was yukes able to please both hardcores and casuals but only casuals matter i

The stats are updated . That should be a given. And I don't mean to discredit your work, or that of aholbert, or Aydin (think he worked on them too if I'm not mistaken), this has nothing to do with you. But if you have to mention that the stats are now up to date...yeah.

None taken at all.

Updated fighters should be a given
The ability to transition when someone postures up should be a given
Not wearing Lion heads during the fight should be a given
Simple things like wearing someone down against the cage should be a given.


I could go on for awhile, so I definitely see your point.

I’ve already accepted it for what it is.

[johnmangala]

Re: How was yukes able to please both hardcores and casuals but only casuals matter i

None taken at all.

Updated fighters should be a given
The ability to transition when someone postures up should be a given
Not wearing Lion heads during the fight should be a given
Simple things like wearing someone down against the cage should be a given.


I could go on for awhile, so I definitely see your point.

I’ve already accepted it for what it is.

I really dont understand why they removed getups from bottom GNP. For all this talk about casual friendly that's one of the most un casual friendly things they couldve done.

[tunnelblick24]

Re: How was yukes able to please both hardcores and casuals but only casuals matter i

I couldn't agree with this more. I'm not sure what specific features people are complaining about, but for me the only thing I'm missing is a universe/franchise/GM mode everything else would have been fluff when the only thing I want is a way to manage my own MMA company in the game with good gameplay. Otherwise this game has by far the best MMA gameplay period. If you disagree then I challenge you to spend more time with it or play the career mode more. Sure there was a lot of "casual" features added, but none of them affect me because I have the OPTION to not utilize them. I don't know if we'll ever get a true universe mode in the near future, but since I'm able to archive custom events and the game is so fun I have what I need if I use a simple spreadsheet to manage my league. Again I'm able to have my little fantasy MMA company and enjoy a really solid MMA game. I' might be unique because I work in Data Analytics and Operations so it's easy for me to make a spreadsheet that fills the franchise mode gaps in this game. Finally, stop complaining if you already have an MMA game that you think is better. I mean if Undisputed is so much better than why even play the EA games? You can just play Undisputed forever and not worry about the games EA puts out. Just enjoy what is available because I think this is better than what we had before even though it's missing stuff from our wishlist and if you disagree you can still play the old games that you like more anyway.

I guess this is the second account of a certain person ... not Kevin Durant.

[tunnelblick24]

Re: How was yukes able to please both hardcores and casuals but only casuals matter i

Thank you for proving my point and turning this into a pissing contest about who knows more about MMA.

Congratulations, you won. You know so much about MMA that you're likely to be impossible to please because the dev's knowledge of MMA doesn't even come close to yours.

So we should probably cater to someone who is easier to please, and who isn't a one of a kind MMA savant like yourself.

It's far more achievable and the payoff will be much higher.

You might wanna use a second account in the future to share your thoughts about the game with us?

[Kingslayer04]

Re: How was yukes able to please both hardcores and casuals but only casuals matter i

None taken at all.

Updated fighters should be a given
The ability to transition when someone postures up should be a given
Not wearing Lion heads during the fight should be a given
Simple things like wearing someone down against the cage should be a given.


I could go on for awhile, so I definitely see your point.

I’ve already accepted it for what it is.

Oh sure, I just think these things should be talked about. In before someone comes in and says the company greatly cares about the community and is only interested in delivering the best game possible — and says it with a (virtual) straight face. Nothing about this game shows any of those supposed aims, quite the opposite.