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  • Stumbleweed
    Livin' the dream
    • Oct 2006
    • 6279

    #436
    Re: OS Official UFC Undisputed Strategy and Help Thread

    Single collar tie is supremely easy to escape from, much easier than the MT clinch. Just flick RS up or down like you're catching a punch/kick and you'll either counter into a MT clinch yourself (if you are a MT fighter), or into a single-collar tie of your own -- and if you catch a knee/kick, you'll take them down automatically.

    Also, I agree that there is essentially no cheese in this game. People spamming signature attacks, kicks, or step attacks can be avoided pretty easily by either catching their attack, timing the shoot takedown, or simply using the steps yourself to stay out of range. You'll get Flash KO'd now and then (I got a head kick KO last night by a Mir, who was using nothing but step attacks), but in general, you can control those people and get the fight to the ground rather easily.

    People who constantly go for takedowns to get it to the ground get Counter Knee KTFO'd (almost a guaranteed KO if you time it right), you can reverse out of ANY ground position, and you can click LS to stand up if you have any kind of dominant position on them to get the fight standing again. There's not a tactic that I've encountered that doesn't have a defense... you just have to know the game well and know what your options are at all times.

    The only thing that I would say is tougher than other tactics to counter is the MT clinch, simply because the attacks can often rock/Flash KO/TKO you even when you're blocking, making it tough to pick your poison (block, try to escape/counter, punch your way out). Also, the timing to flick RS to get out is much tougher than reversals or grapple blocking.. it doesn't seem nearly as reliable... You also have to guess the opposite direction of the whip to get the auto-break, so you only have a 25% chance of that as opposed to 50% in the single-collar tie counters.
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    • sb24
      MVP
      • Dec 2008
      • 3165

      #437
      Re: OS Official UFC Undisputed Strategy and Help Thread

      ^^^^^ The truth

      The only thing i encountered was not blocking eventhough i was trying. I figured it was the controller i was using. i was on a 15+ win streak and fought a guy who knew how to spam punches well. Wasnt a basic punch spammer he actually knew the game. Problem was my counter to him was a counter grapple. As soon as i would get him(He was hughes BTW), he would go from my double underhook to his like i didnt even have the controller in my hand then slam me like i wasnt blocking it.

      Now im not rookie. I was catchings his punches and go DIRECTLY to blocking yet he would still pass and slam me like i didnt have the controller in my hand. Now my blocking should have worked to stop him advancing much less slaming me. Not to mention he did a 2 round match so he could get an early win without me having a way to figure out a way to counter his crap.

      SO my biggest issue was not blocking when i was dead set on it. It felt like wanting to throw a punch and doing nothing but kicks. If the game did what i wouldnt it would have been a battle. Kinda glad he won though i said i wasnt going to bed till i lost and 16 fights later....

      And i dont do ranked cuz of the quitters so i know people were easier than they should be.

      So i agree with no cheese in ther game. Even the guy i fought im sure was my controller more than anything. I am still mad about the 2 round cop-out though.

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      • popttart
        Rookie
        • Jun 2009
        • 38

        #438
        Re: OS Official UFC Undisputed Strategy and Help Thread

        Originally posted by familyguy5454
        Hey guys. so I am new to this forum, and I just got the game, and I understand how to block transitions, but it only works about three times in a row, and then they get a transition back (im talking about the cpu, i dont have online yet), is this how it works or am i doing something wrong? also, i read posts about how to get out of the muay thai clinch, but does anyone have any more suggestions?
        i need to get online soon.. the cpu is way too easy to beat
        no offense but if its way to easy, why are you needing to transition block, just block once and go around him. lol, but if your on the offensive, if you keep trying to transition and thats all there doing is blocking that trans. then if will wear you out and he will keep on going. also depending wrestler or bjj or judo. and mojority of mt clinches. they pull you back so always pull back when it happens, other than that, either get lucky or learn the pattern till your knocked out.

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        • popttart
          Rookie
          • Jun 2009
          • 38

          #439
          Re: OS Official UFC Undisputed Strategy and Help Thread

          Originally posted by sb24
          ^^^^^ The truth

          The only thing i encountered was not blocking eventhough i was trying. I figured it was the controller i was using. i was on a 15+ win streak and fought a guy who knew how to spam punches well. Wasnt a basic punch spammer he actually knew the game. Problem was my counter to him was a counter grapple. As soon as i would get him(He was hughes BTW), he would go from my double underhook to his like i didnt even have the controller in my hand then slam me like i wasnt blocking it.

          Now im not rookie. I was catchings his punches and go DIRECTLY to blocking yet he would still pass and slam me like i didnt have the controller in my hand. Now my blocking should have worked to stop him advancing much less slaming me. Not to mention he did a 2 round match so he could get an early win without me having a way to figure out a way to counter his crap.

          SO my biggest issue was not blocking when i was dead set on it. It felt like wanting to throw a punch and doing nothing but kicks. If the game did what i wouldnt it would have been a battle. Kinda glad he won though i said i wasnt going to bed till i lost and 16 fights later....

          And i dont do ranked cuz of the quitters so i know people were easier than they should be.

          So i agree with no cheese in ther game. Even the guy i fought im sure was my controller more than anything. I am still mad about the 2 round cop-out though.
          what system do you have? and i think think they fixed the quiting think, i dont know, but i was fighting this dude with michada, and he was chuck (HAHA.....) and i was whipping him bad, get him down to mount, slap him, get back up, then all of a sudden my dude runs and jumps on the cage celebrating the win, i was !?!?!?what, it counted it said it disconnected but i got the win

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          • MrMayface
            Rookie
            • Aug 2008
            • 176

            #440
            Re: OS Official UFC Undisputed Strategy and Help Thread

            Can someone please tell me how in the world to transition block the rubber guard move? I'll take a guy down and he immediately transition to rubber guard and I can never block.
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            • Stumbleweed
              Livin' the dream
              • Oct 2006
              • 6279

              #441
              Re: OS Official UFC Undisputed Strategy and Help Thread

              The same as any other transition blocking, I always push RS towards them. You'll see an animation with you holding them from the transition... you just gotta be vigilant, because all it takes is one successful major and you're in mount getting killed. Also, just minor transition out -- many times they're too concerned about transitioning themselves and don't block you... if you minor out, you'll end up back in open guard.

              You can also reverse those moves -- they have a pretty long setup time, so you can see it and react fairly easily. However, the risk/reward in that situation isn't worth risking the reverse IMO -- if you mis-time it, you're mounted and pretty much screwed. I much prefer the transition block and the immediate minor after you block their attempt tactic.
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              • popttart
                Rookie
                • Jun 2009
                • 38

                #442
                Re: OS Official UFC Undisputed Strategy and Help Thread

                yeah, thats pretty much it, right when they bring there leg up, hold the r stick, then right when i see the leg move back, i transition and i 'm out of it.

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                • sb24
                  MVP
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 3165

                  #443
                  Re: OS Official UFC Undisputed Strategy and Help Thread

                  Originally posted by popttart
                  what system do you have? and i think think they fixed the quiting think, i dont know, but i was fighting this dude with michada, and he was chuck (HAHA.....) and i was whipping him bad, get him down to mount, slap him, get back up, then all of a sudden my dude runs and jumps on the cage celebrating the win, i was !?!?!?what, it counted it said it disconnected but i got the win
                  360.... I didnt get an update for the game so i highly doubt they fixed it. I dont think its an issue with player matches.

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                  • Stumbleweed
                    Livin' the dream
                    • Oct 2006
                    • 6279

                    #444
                    Re: OS Official UFC Undisputed Strategy and Help Thread

                    If you're already full mounted, there's no transition blocking that will save your ***. You either have to transition out, catch their punch with RS, or lay there and get beaten... your options are limited at that point.

                    Block the high MT knees with RB as normal and try to flick RS when you see them getting ready to whip your head... you have a 25% chance of guessing right on the direction and then you also have to get the timing right to break it immediately... it's tough to do, which is why the MT clinch is so effective. You can also try to strike your way out, which sometimes works... I normally just block like crazy and try to time a RS flick on their initial whip attempt, as it seems that once they get you with a knee, it becomes harder to escape. The first whip is your best chance to get out... if you can't, then just try to limit their damage while biding your time to get out.
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                    • KENYON06
                      Pro
                      • Dec 2004
                      • 890

                      #445
                      Re: OS Official UFC Undisputed Strategy and Help Thread

                      Originally posted by dbly32
                      When you have a guy in the Muay Thai clinch, you shouldn't necessarily do whip knees nonstop. You can just hold them in the clinch, it doesn't mean they're going to immediately escape. You can go with regular knees, and also low knees by holding L2 with X or O. As for defending/escaping, I just hold the right stick away from the opponent and I hold R1 (high block) as soon as he starts to go for a whip knee. I usually take a bit of damage, but I eventually am able to break the clinch. Wanderlei had me in that single tie collar thing or whatever it's called which was harder for me to get out than Anderson Silva's MT clinch.
                      Thanks, so how do I keep the clinch on though? Is there anything I can do to keep them from escaping, or is it all up to the other fighter to determine whether or not the clinch will be there? Like how you can keep a guy on the ground for practically ever.

                      It was worse when I had my boxer, like everytime I went for them uppercuts from the single collar, the guy was out immediately and I would just do one of those short elbows or hooks.

                      Also, when I am doing the techique training in career, I hate doing the combo training. I don't get credit half the time even though I am doing the right things and I'm not getting blocked...?
                      Last edited by KENYON06; 06-08-2009, 06:19 PM.

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                      • TMagic
                        G.O.A.T.
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 7550

                        #446
                        Re: OS Official UFC Undisputed Strategy and Help Thread

                        May be a dumb question, but whatever...lol...

                        What is the point/strategy for going with body shots and also leg kicks?

                        Is it just to mix up your attack? To throw in some head shots with some body shots. Or does it actually lead to fatiguing the opponent or something of that nature?

                        Same with leg kicks. Does it make it easier to apply a leg submission? Does it make the opponent's kicks weaker? Does it actually slow down the opponent? Or does it just make for easy chip damage?

                        Thanks fellas.
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                        • KENYON06
                          Pro
                          • Dec 2004
                          • 890

                          #447
                          Re: OS Official UFC Undisputed Strategy and Help Thread

                          If I remember correctly, leg kicks make the opponents kicks less effective. And body shots are good. I am not sure if they cause fatigue in this game, but if you get enough in, you can rock the opponent with only body shots. They will eventually get to where they just get rocked and fall down everytime and you can stand over them and finish it.
                          Last edited by KENYON06; 06-09-2009, 02:12 AM.

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                          • dbly32
                            Rookie
                            • Jun 2004
                            • 315

                            #448
                            Re: OS Official UFC Undisputed Strategy and Help Thread

                            Not only that, but it seems like the body punches/kicks will land before a punch/kick to the head will. Lets say you and your opponent both throw kicks at the same time, only he throws a kick to the head and you throw a weak leg kick. Your kick will land first and he won't be able to complete his kick, and you can also follow up the low kick with a knee, low punch, high punch/kick, etc. A lot of guys like to start out far back and then rush in with a looping punch. A good way to stop that is to throw the low kick.

                            and KENYON, I have the same problem with combo training in career mode. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. As for keeping them in the MT clinch, I'm not an expert on that, but it seems to me like it's up to the opponent to time the escape. Like I said, mix it up instead of throwing nothing but whip knees, and you can occasionally switch it up by going for the takedown from the clinch if you are good on the ground. I do all of my work from the mount, although I did KO a guy with a whip knee the other day.
                            Last edited by dbly32; 06-09-2009, 10:54 PM.

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                            • Rau71
                              Pro
                              • Aug 2003
                              • 410

                              #449
                              Re: OS Official UFC Undisputed Strategy and Help Thread

                              I think the Muay Thai is too effective against human opp. If I get someone in a clinch good night. If they get me in a clinch, good night.
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                              • MC Fatigue
                                Banned
                                • Feb 2006
                                • 4150

                                #450
                                Re: OS Official UFC Undisputed Strategy and Help Thread

                                The clinch is the one thing I cannot handle in the game. I just suck at it; I get caught in it and it's usually goodnight, although occasionally I get lucky and pull out of it - but it really is pure luck for me.

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