OS Official UFC Undisputed Strategy and Help Thread

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Thanks. I'm always holding right to block transitions, which works well, but I wasn't sure how to reverse them.

I'm also probably the only person in the world who struggles to be effective from the full mount. I can usually get guys there pretty easily, but then I seem to spend the entire time transition blocking so they don't get out. I get the odd punch in, but inevitably they slip out when I try to strike. Any tips?

Yeah, I just flick it towards them, or whichever way I would do it to transition block.

As far as full mount, people either a) block their head to keep you from destroying them, b) try to transition like crazy, rolling out, pulling your head down, etc., or c) try to time the RS button click to catch your punching arm and pull you down.

Among those options, the most common is blocking the head while trying to roll out -- to handle that, you just transition block then immediately strike once you push them down again. Rinse, repeat -- with a hammerfist or a big boxer's bolo punch, you only need a few clean hits to get them, so just be patient and remember that your main goal is keeping them in mount. They normally can't recover their blocking hand quickly enough to stop your strike after a transition attempt -- that's your window of opportunity.

If they are blocking constantly, punch the body (LT + punch) and then quickly punch the head and you'll get through almost every time (especially if you use a normal punch, which takes less time to throw than a hammerfist or signature boxer punch.

If they are trying to catch your hand, just be patient with the strikes... People generally "pulse" the button, meaning that they hit it in a regular pattern every second or so in a hope that they'll catch your punch. Just wait for them to do that a few times to sense their pattern and then attack it. You can also sometimes just overwhelm these people by hammering the bejesus out of them -- the signature boxer punches are the best for that because you can alternate hands and fire them off quickly. They might get lucky and pull you down after catching it 1 of your 10 or so punches, but the damage will be done and all you need to do is Major transition back to full mount and do it all over again.

It only takes one well-placed strike from mount to KO pretty much anyone, so patience is the key... just remember that keeping them there is priority #1.

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i wish they would have more judo, cus the game really is based on bjj & wrestling.

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Yeah, I just flick it towards them, or whichever way I would do it to transition block.

As far as full mount, people either a) block their head to keep you from destroying them, b) try to transition like crazy, rolling out, pulling your head down, etc., or c) try to time the RS button click to catch your punching arm and pull you down.

Among those options, the most common is blocking the head while trying to roll out -- to handle that, you just transition block then immediately strike once you push them down again. Rinse, repeat -- with a hammerfist or a big boxer's bolo punch, you only need a few clean hits to get them, so just be patient and remember that your main goal is keeping them in mount. They normally can't recover their blocking hand quickly enough to stop your strike after a transition attempt -- that's your window of opportunity.

If they are blocking constantly, punch the body (LT + punch) and then quickly punch the head and you'll get through almost every time (especially if you use a normal punch, which takes less time to throw than a hammerfist or signature boxer punch.

If they are trying to catch your hand, just be patient with the strikes... People generally "pulse" the button, meaning that they hit it in a regular pattern every second or so in a hope that they'll catch your punch. Just wait for them to do that a few times to sense their pattern and then attack it. You can also sometimes just overwhelm these people by hammering the bejesus out of them -- the signature boxer punches are the best for that because you can alternate hands and fire them off quickly. They might get lucky and pull you down after catching it 1/15 punches, but the damage will be done and all you need to do is Major transition back to full mount and do it all over again.

hey when are we going to fight, you need to add me up. but past that, judo does do well in def mount, i dont know what its called but his foot will come up behind, it catches you off gaurd and works d^%& well. but yah, thats what i do in the mount, if you play it right, theres no way to get out and accept that your &*&*ed

[sb24]

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well, i prefer, taking them to the rubber gaurd, thats where its at, then make your way around to mount.

Who said he was using a bjj fighter? Now your would have him thinking he can do something that can only be done by certin fighters. Keep it simple.

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i have to admit when your under the mount, in your head your calm at first but once you get hit a few time you start going nutz and panicing to get out, but i usaully catch them off gaurd, i havent lost from the mount in a long time

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Who said he was using a bjj fighter? Now your would have him thinking he can do something that can only be done by certin fighters. Keep it simple.

well, rubber gaurd is simple. and its obvious its for bjj. what not simple about (LB+minor}

[Stumbleweed]

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Yes, the signature Judo sweep from full mount gets you back to standing... Judo is the only ground discipline with the ability to get to standing from mount. BJJ has a useful sweep also from Mount Down... do a major transition and you'll roll them over. You can also use a signature LB transition from full mount to roll them over into Open Guard, but it's tough to get if they are transition blocking at all.

Judo and BJJ can get you out of bad situations to be sure.. Judo is best when you're really getting dominated, as they have North/South and Full Mount escapes. BJJ can get you out of Mount as well, but it really shines in the lower positions such as Half Guard and Side Control -- you do the LB transition and you end up in the position that they were in.

The most surefure way to get out of Full Mount though is to minor transition or catch their hand and pull them down to your body. The signature Judo/BJJ transition is very hard to get to work properly if the person in control has any idea what they're doing -- if they're transition blocking at all, you're not getting out with that move... gotta catch them off-guard when they're busy striking. Remember that minor transitions are always easier and more likely than majors -- so if you're escaping, always try those first and resort to the others when they're really striking and you've absolutely gotta get to a better position.

[sb24]

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well, rubber gaurd is simple. and its obvious its for bjj. what not simple about (LB+minor}

Its not obvious to someone new to the game. Which is why has asking about transitions to begin with(so no lb+minor isnt simple to him). You made it seem like anyone can do it. therefor you are making it more complex than need be. Whats not simple about that?

[Qb]

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They normally can't recover their blocking hand quickly enough to stop your strike after a transition attempt -- that's your window of opportunity.

Great advice. I was on both ends of this last night in my first two online matches against a friend. I'd wait for him to attempt a transition, block it, then sneak in one or two punches, before returning to transition block. Eventually I rocked him and finished him off. He also mounted me once, rocking me with a hammerfist before I could get my hands up after a failed transition. Fortunately for me I was saved by the bell...

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Yes, the signature Judo sweep from full mount gets you back to standing... Judo is the only ground discipline with the ability to get to standing from mount. BJJ has a useful sweep also from Mount Down... do a major transition and you'll roll them over. You can also use a signature LB transition from full mount to roll them over into Open Guard, but it's tough to get if they are transition blocking at all.

Judo and BJJ can get you out of bad situations to be sure.. Judo is best when you're really getting dominated, as they have North/South and Full Mount escapes. BJJ can get you out of Mount as well, but it really shines in the lower positions such as Half Guard and Side Control -- you do the LB transition and you end up in the position that they were in.

The most surefure way to get out of Full Mount though is to minor transition or catch their hand and pull them down to your body. The signature Judo/BJJ transition is very hard to get to work properly if the person in control has any idea what they're doing -- if they're transition blocking at all, you're not getting out with that move... gotta catch them off-guard when they're busy striking. Remember that minor transitions are always easier and more likely than majors -- so if you're escaping, always try those first and resort to the others when they're really striking and you've absolutely gotta get to a better position.

well, i might have to set there and memorize every move for judo and make a guy for light heavy weight, sense theres none in there online, it would be a killer guy to have.

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you act like this game is rocket sience, i understand what there having problems with, with i depriciate them with minor moves. they work, but to broaden the look for there future offensive and def. on open gaurd, knowing about bjj and wrestling is benificial. it took me like 15 min in practice to learn all bjj and wrestling.

[Stumbleweed]

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Judo is sweet but it leaves you prone to clinch grapple counters... if you try a throw and they block it, you get rolled into this very tough to stop rear naked choke. It's also fairly weak in terms of submissions, but they do have the punch counter sub from open guard. Other than that, they're basically wrestlers as far as submissions are concerned, only have 1 choice in each position.

Still one of my favorite things to use, but I've cooled on Judo since being totally in love with Karo when the game first came out. It's not as useful as it once was because people figured out how to block trips/throws in the clinch. But yeah, all the signature Judo transitions are nice because Judo fighters are so uncommon... most people aren't expecting to get flipped over from Full Mount, Close Guard, etc. so you can often surprise them.

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any one want to fight on xbox, get a few games in.. dont worry i dont talk trash, i am a nice guy online

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that was my idea, make them batt there eyes for a moment in shock of me flipping them over lol. i did the first time.

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heres a good question for you guys, i got my answer, but i want to see your views, do you body spam, do you think its cheap, ingeneral its in the game and you cant say its not realistic, cus once they land a good hit and got them open, they wear them out, but i wanted to see your views on it.