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[p_rushing]

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LOL!!!!!! Shows what I know.

There are rumors that he may have failed a test a week or 2 ago. Saw something about if he isn't fighting the test results don't matter, but that sounds strange and I would think any failed test would matter.

There is also speculation that he couldn't get it out of his system quick enough. He has an exemption, so he wasn't taking the everyday shot most likely. He was probably taking the longer lasting stuff. The ban is immediate and NV has been doing more random testing, so he could fail at any point right now.

[aholbert32]

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There are rumors that he may have failed a test a week or 2 ago. Saw something about if he isn't fighting the test results don't matter, but that sounds strange and I would think any failed test would matter.

There is also speculation that he couldn't get it out of his system quick enough. He has an exemption, so he wasn't taking the everyday shot most likely. He was probably taking the longer lasting stuff. The ban is immediate and NV has been doing more random testing, so he could fail at any point right now.

This is the craziest thing. Who the hell walks away from a title shot? Even if he failed a test for elevated testosterone doesnt he have a legit excuse? "I was on TRT, when the test was taken TRT was legal in NV, once TRT was banned I immediately cycled off of it."

[aholbert32]

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Here is Vitor's response:

I never gave up fighting in UFC 173 and never mentioned it. Therefore, all information posted in any mass media advertising that is not true.

What I announced was that I will be resigning "TRT" and not "giving up the fight" to continue my dream of fighting.

The UFC decided to put another opponent in my place because I didn't have time to fit the new rules of the NSAC. According to the UFC, I will face the winner of Weidman vs Lyotto within the new regulations of all the Athletic Commissions.

I'm sorry that this happened, and I appreciate the strength and understanding of all fans, sponsors, UFC and athletic commissions ".

[ManiacMatt1782]

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Kinda makes sence, but isn't the fight in May. That would be time enough to clear from his system. And if he was tested prior, he could legitimately say he was taking it when it was legal and has since stopped. Just seems kinda iffy to me. Almost like he needs time to replace his TRT with something else.

[p_rushing]

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Kinda makes sence, but isn't the fight in May. That would be time enough to clear from his system. And if he was tested prior, he could legitimately say he was taking it when it was legal and has since stopped. Just seems kinda iffy to me. Almost like he needs time to replace his TRT with something else.

they are testing before fights now, so I don't think the rules work like that ... you fail now, who knows when you stopped

[Gotmadskillzson]

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GSP living the life. Not mad at that at all, he seems a hell of a lot happier now.

http://www.cagepotato.com/selling-booze-and-signing-boobs-georges-st-pierre-is-enjoying-his-retirement-responsibly/

Despite taking a break from the UFC Octagon, former welterweight champion Georges St-Pierre has been busier than ever throughout 2014. In recent weeks, he’s spoken out about lax drug testing protocols within the sport, cornered his friend Francis Carmont in Brazil, been the subject of a new documentary, and this Tuesday in Toronto, GSP was on hand at The Fifth pub to promote his partnership with rum maker Bacardi.

“Started drinking Bacardi even before I was associated with them,” quipped the French-Canadian superstar to a crowded room of VIP guests and media members.

The event was representative of the new era in St-Pierre’s life: Instead of being at the beck and call of a promoter, GSP is proud of the fact that he can leave his cell phone unattended for a week. Defending his UFC title was a Sisyphean task; St-Pierre claims his mental health deteriorated under the numerous demands being a professional fighter placed him under.

“I’m very happy where I am right now,” said St-Pierre, speaking to Sportsnet’s Joe Ferraro.

From the post-fight presser for UFC 167 all the way through to the Bacardi event, St-Pierre has been on a roll when it comes to shattering the sacred cows of the MMA game. When he criticized the lack of effective drug testing in the sport, many media members privately supported St-Pierre. It’s strange that journalists don’t use their platforms to illustrate the areas of MMA that need to be fixed, though.

While it’s subtle, St-Pierre has also been careful to let the media know that he usually deals with UFC majority owner Lorenzo Fertitta (“Lorenzo is the boss”) rather than president and front man Dana White. White’s profanity-laced rhetoric often makes him a prominent lighting rod for criticism. Yet he owns just 9 percent of Zuffa, and as St-Pierre alludes to, major decisions are either made or sanctioned by Fertitta.

A lifelong fan of Mike Tyson, St-Pierre was wearing a ‘Roots of Fight’ Mike Tyson sweatshirt. In his autobiography, Tyson reflected about the tumultuous journey of ups and downs that left him contemplating retirement just after his fight with Pinklon Thomas in 1987.

“I should have retired then, but I didn’t have control of my own life,” claimed Tyson.

Everyone is looking for the reason that Georges St-Pierre stopped fighting. Was it due to a lawsuit from his former manager, the abrasive criticism from Dana White, obsessive compulsive disorder or migraines pointing to brain damage? A better question is why a rational person would start competing in MMA in the first place.

By comparison, when an athlete like Michael Jordan succeeds in a major sports league like the NBA, the narrative in the news and among fans is that Jordan’s own talent was the deciding factor. Certainly, Jordan’s teammates, coaches, the team owner and assorted NBA officials play a role, but they don’t get equal billing. In MMA, the fighters are often regarded as chattels who owe their existence to the promoter’s generosity — a situation that the lack of competing promotions and absence of federal legislation to protect MMA fighters continues to reinforce.

When St-Pierre was done with his media interviews at the Bacardi event, he gave a speech and opted to mingle throughout the crowd. Instead of being able to easily circulate, he was swarmed by a frenzied crowd. Some were probably not even MMA fans — just ordinary people drawn into the swirling vortex of celebrity obsession who needed fodder for their own social media newsfeeds.

St-Pierre might have been uncomfortable with the crush of the crowd, but he is highly attuned to the reality that his relevance is at a major peak. After all, as much as Dana White talks up Ronda Rousey as “the biggest star we’ve ever had,” Rousey has little chance of replicating the pay-per-view numbers that GSP pulled throughout his years as the UFC’s welterweight champion.

The Bacardi campaign has a line fitting for the fight game, “Know your limits.” In the prime of his career, Mike Tyson was a relentless alcoholic who did everything to excess until it blew up in his face. It’s part of Tyson’s legacy as a fighter that he stayed around boxing too long and experienced losses to subpar opponents near the end of his career.

Does Georges St-Pierre know his limits? Or will he live out the tragic arc that so many fighters before him have endured?

Only time will tell.

[Gotmadskillzson]

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Michael Bisping snapping on Twitter about Vitor:

Ariel Helwani @arielhelwani 17m
So my question is: if you have a health deficiency, how can you just get off it & how can you feel like you're able to fight for a UFC belt?

michael @bisping 10m
@arielhelwani Irs because the whole thing was bull**** to start with. He failed his test, you know it, I know it, we all know it.

michael @bisping 9m
@arielhelwani you either need it or you don't, before he needed it, now he says he doesn't. Ridiculous. BS

michael @bisping 7m
@arielhelwani how the hell is it not relevant. If I was tested and it was clean, I'd tell you. He failed, cheating scumbag, hypocrite.

[Gotmadskillzson]

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Dan Henderson weighs in on the TRT banning.

http://www.mmafighting.com/2014/2/28/5458494/dan-henderson-on-nevada-banning-trt-they-took-the-easy-way-out

Dan Henderson on Nevada banning TRT: 'They took the easy way out'

Count veteran Dan Henderson among those who aren't all that supportive of the Nevada Athletic Commission's decision to ban therapeutic use exemptions for testosterone replacement therapy.

"Are they going to ban insulin for diabetics and other prescribed medications that get people into normal ranges?" Henderson said to MMAFighting.com. "Seems like they could have easily implemented random drug testing."

Random drug testing costs money and one of the reasons cited by the commission prior to their unanimous vote to ban TRT on Thursday was not having enough funds to constantly monitor TRT users.

Henderson confirmed he will be allowed to continue his TRT treatment leading up to his rematch against Shogun Rua next month in Brazil. He said he began using TRT around 2006 or 2007, "but not until I was told by the NSAC that it was fine to take as long as it was backed up with medical records." Nevada was the first state to grant Henderson a TUE for TRT in 2007, and it is believed that Henderson is the first MMA fighter to be granted one.

"I just think that they took the easy way out," he said. "Instead of trying to get rid of the bigger problem of PEDs, they banned the drugs they had already approved for athletes with chronically low testosterone levels.

"I would love for them to do better. Random, no advance notice drug testing."

Henderson stopped using TRT approximately two months prior to his UFC 161 fight against Rashad Evans because the Manitoba Combative Sports Commission did not grant any TUEs. Henderson lost the fight via split decision.

And while he may not be in agreement with the NAC's ruling, Henderson said he will not walk away from the sport because of it. After all, the 43-year-old recently signed a new six-fight contract with the UFC.

"I'll deal with the changes after [the Shogun fight]," he said

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I am amazed the UFC gave him a new 6 fight contract considering he lost 3 fights in a row. So essentially he will be fighting on up to the age of 46 or 47.

[ex carrabba fan]

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Don't like Bisping but I agree with his sentiments. TRT was trouble from the jump.

[aholbert32]

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Dan Henderson weighs in on the TRT banning.

http://www.mmafighting.com/2014/2/28/5458494/dan-henderson-on-nevada-banning-trt-they-took-the-easy-way-out

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I am amazed the UFC gave him a new 6 fight contract considering he lost 3 fights in a row. So essentially he will be fighting on up to the age of 46 or 47.

The Machida and Evans fights were close fights and the 3 fights arent guaranteed from what I hear.

[DJ]

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I'm glad TRT will be going away. It was a ridiculous loophole that afforded guys who used PED's a way to boost their performance "legally" by taking TRT.

[LingeringRegime]

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This before and after picture just blows me away...

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[redsrule]

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This before and after picture just blows me away...

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Steroids have a way of doing that to you...

Only difference now is he can do it illegally now and get his levels as high as he wants since there isn't random drug testing in MMA. Just has to make sure they are in line for the fight.

[p_rushing]

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Steroids have a way of doing that to you...

Only difference now is he can do it illegally now and get his levels as high as he wants since there isn't random drug testing in MMA. Just has to make sure they are in line for the fight.

Actually NV is doing random testing. Rumor is he failed the test he had, so he pulled out of the fight. The test results apparently only matter if you have a fight.

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[aholbert32]

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Actually NV is doing random testing. Rumor is he failed the test he had, so he pulled out of the fight. The test results apparently only matter if you have a fight.

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They can only random test in the state though. Vitor screwed up by going to the MMA Awards in Vegas. Its the same way they got Overeem when he was going to fight JDS. If a guy wants to avoid the random testing, he should just avoid Nevada until fight week.