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[ex carrabba fan]

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My guess is that he has the worst managers in the sport and that Nate is also a dummy. If Nate was getting paid even average I don't believe he'd be bitching right now. He seems like a type dude where you give him even a bit below what he's due and he'll get in there and scrap no questions asked.

[Gotmadskillzson]

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Holly Holm was offered a 15/15 contract to fight. Where as the boxing world offered her 250K to fight in September.
On the flip side, Ronda Rousey was given a 45/45 contract her 1st fight in the UFC.

http://mmapayout.com/2014/04/ufc-makes-15k15k-offer-to-holm-per-fighters-coach/

[Pappy Knuckles]

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http://www.mmafighting.com/2014/4/9/5599758/nick-diaz-speaks-i-never-loved-fighting-i-never-wanted-to-fight

Since it's Diaz brothers day on the site, here's a Nick interview that dropped tonight. There's some good stuff in it.

As far as Nate goes, I always assumed that he was a good draw without knowing any of the figures beforehand. Not as big as his brother of course, but he puts on good fights and most fans seems to have a strong opinion about him one way or another. I don't blame him for speaking out, and maybe it will convince other fighters to do the same. However, I don't think it will make a difference in the short term. Dana is a stubborn guy, and I doubt that a little noise from the Diaz camp is going to make him go back to the negotiating table any time soon. I hope that I'm wrong though.

[ex carrabba fan]

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http://www.mmafighting.com/2014/4/9/...anted-to-fight

Since it's Diaz brothers day on the site, here's a Nick interview that dropped tonight. There's some good stuff in it.

As far as Nate goes, I always assumed that he was a good draw without knowing any of the figures beforehand. Not as big as his brother of course, but he puts on good fights and most fans seems to have a strong opinion about him one way or another. I don't blame him for speaking out, and maybe it will convince other fighters to do the same. However, I don't think it will make a difference in the short term. Dana is a stubborn guy, and I doubt that a little noise from the Diaz camp is going to make him go back to the negotiating table any time soon. I hope that I'm wrong though.

Nick is also stubborn though. He's as crazy as ever but I respect him if he is content in retirement. I completely understand his logic about not wanting to fight for anything less than what he thinks he deserves. That's his right.

Will he get the amount of money he's asking for? That's another story. He certainly doesn't deserve a title fight which would give him the big pay day he's looking for.

As far as Dana and company's fighter wages, well I fear that this will be a major issue along with a few other issues that could possibly kill the sport. Again, I believe that the rules need to be tweaked to make for less stalling and laying around. With all of this talk about fighters' pay, it's only a matter of time before this becomes a major topic, if it isn't already.

[aholbert32]

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Holly Holm was offered a 15/15 contract to fight. Where as the boxing world offered her 250K to fight in September.
On the flip side, Ronda Rousey was given a 45/45 contract her 1st fight in the UFC.

http://mmapayout.com/2014/04/ufc-mak...ighters-coach/

I actually dont have a problem with the Holm offer. Fans like us know who Holm is but casual fans dont. Dana and the Fertitas arent in the business to lose money. I think its INSANE that a boxing promoter would offer her 250k to box. Women's boxing isnt shown on major TV and isnt a big box office draw so that looks like a money loser. Maybe because its in Europe. Also Holm's agent stated that if she won a UFC fight her pay would be increased "significantly". Holm has proven herself in boxing but not in MMA so I dont see anything wrong with that.

The Rousey contract is only part of the story because she has always received a PPV cut. Take the Carmouche fight. That did 450k buys. Lets assume is like the Eddie Alverez deal the UFC offered, she would receive the following:

"$1 for each “buy” between 200,000 and 400,000 buys, $2 per buy between 400,000 and 600,000 buys, and $2.50 per buy over 600,000 buys."

Rousey made over a half a million for her first UFC fight. That doesnt even include the money she received for her UFC sponsorship.

[aholbert32]

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Nick is also stubborn though. He's as crazy as ever but I respect him if he is content in retirement. I completely understand his logic about not wanting to fight for anything less than what he thinks he deserves. That's his right.

Will he get the amount of money he's asking for? That's another story. He certainly doesn't deserve a title fight which would give him the big pay day he's looking for.

As far as Dana and company's fighter wages, well I fear that this will be a major issue along with a few other issues that could possibly kill the sport. Again, I believe that the rules need to be tweaked to make for less stalling and laying around. With all of this talk about fighters' pay, it's only a matter of time before this becomes a major topic, if it isn't already.

Regarding Diaz, The UFC doesnt really need him. He's another guy who is considered a "draw" but isnt really one. His two PPV against Penn (280k) and Condit (400k) werent box office smashes. The GSP fight did well but everyone does good numbers when fighting GSP.

Also, I guess its the lawyer in me but I hate when people sign deals and then complain about it after. Diaz's current contract is 200k/200k plus a PPV cut. With GSP retired, its probably the best WW contract in the company. He was gifted a title shot after losing to Condit. The fact that he admits that he doesnt love fighting and if he fought anyone other than Hendricks it would be just for a money grab...doesnt make me think the UFC should bend over backwards to get him to fight again.

[Gotmadskillzson]

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Bellator middleweight champion Alexander Shlemenko wants a piece of former UFC titlist Tito Ortiz, and he wants it on pay-per-view.

Shlemenko posted a video online Thursday night, asking Bellator CEO Bjorn Rebney to book him opposite Ortiz.

“Tito Ortiz, you say you want to fight May 17 on Bellator’s pay-per-view. I will fight you. I will beat you,” Shlemenko said. “Tito, I respect you, but I must beat you, because I am champion. I know Tito Ortiz is a light heavyweight. This is not a problem for me. I’m ready to fight light heavyweight, no problem. Bjorn, make this fight for me, because I am champion. I am the best. I will make a good fight -- fight of the night.”

Bellator MMA’s inaugural pay-per-view takes place May 17 at the Landers Center in Southaven, Miss., and is headlined by a lightweight title rubber match between Eddie Alvarez and Michael Chandler.

http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/Ale...yPerView-66445

How about no.......Tito lost 6 of his last 7 fights.

[p_rushing]

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Bellator middleweight champion Alexander Shlemenko wants a piece of former UFC titlist Tito Ortiz, and he wants it on pay-per-view.



http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/Ale...yPerView-66445

How about no.......Tito lost 6 of his last 7 fights.

They have to try to sell that somehow. Free may not get me to even pay attention.

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[Gotmadskillzson]

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Tyrone Spong shattered his shin in the 1st round of the Glory title fight in Turkey throwing a leg kick. Thankfully it wasn't as graphic as Anderson Silva or Corey Hill leg breaks.

[Pappy Knuckles]

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Tyrone Spong shattered his shin in the 1st round of the Glory title fight in Turkey throwing a leg kick. Thankfully it wasn't as graphic as Anderson Silva or Corey Hill leg breaks.

Spong took it like a champ. He didn't show any pain or anything, just frustration. Sucks though, I was looking forward to his next WSOF fight.

[Gotmadskillzson]

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Rich Franklin says he could beat Anderson Silva if they fought for a 3rd time. Sure Rich, you would say that after Anderson broke his leg.

[TheShizNo1]

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Rich must've forgotten about that clinch.

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[Gotmadskillzson]

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Oh Nick Diaz...... He wants to fight Roy Jones Jr.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mma-cagewriter/nick-diaz-to-roy-jones-jr----buy-out-my-ufc-contract-so-we-can-fight-161819700.html

[Gotmadskillzson]

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Jake Shields signs with WSOF. Yep, I knew it, that place is where all the UFC fighters go after they get cut.

http://www.mmafighting.com/2014/4/17/5626012/jake-shields-inks-multi-fight-deal-with-wsof

[aholbert32]

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Jake Shields signs with WSOF. Yep, I knew it, that place is where all the UFC fighters go after they get cut.

http://www.mmafighting.com/2014/4/17...deal-with-wsof

Smart move by him. Fights against Fitch, Burkman and Palhares could be interesting.