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**ERA** · 02-11-2015, 11:40 PM

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Poor Rashad man... He got hurt again and is out for 6-8 months. Might be time to call it a career.

**p_rushing** · 02-12-2015, 12:11 AM

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Originally posted by ERA

Poor Rashad man... He got hurt again and is out for 6-8 months. Might be time to call it a career.

I thought he was already done and really wasn't putting in the effort, but it would have been nice to see him again if he really was working.

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DJ · 02-12-2015, 12:44 AM

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Originally posted by ERA

Poor Rashad man... He got hurt again and is out for 6-8 months. Might be time to call it a career.

What happened this time? That's unfortunate.

**ERA** · 02-12-2015, 12:50 AM

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Originally posted by DJ

What happened this time? That's unfortunate.

It seems he tweaked his ACL again.

DJ · 02-12-2015, 12:59 AM

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I'm seeing reports that Anderson failed a second drug test prior to the Diaz fight. Is he going to face a lengthy suspension?

**p_rushing** · 02-12-2015, 01:43 AM

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Looks like he may have failed the day of fight test. He failed the random test, passed the pre fight test 10 days later, and then failed on fight day. That would be a weird cycle as he should know he would be tested at the fight. He could have tested for something else, helping with weight cut or something else to help before the fight.

I'm guessing 1 year. Which he will just retire. He could technically fight internationally, but UFC does honor the suspension.

The Silva fans are hilarious with their comments. UFC setting him up, Nevada doing it, Reebok since he wouldn't wear it, 2 failed tests shows the tests were screwed up, etc.

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Rousey and Cat were tested and results will be in before the fight ......... I would pay good money to just watch Dana getting the news if she fails. Going to be an interesting time in MMA.

Fighters will have to cut back on the training or risk being caught.

**LingeringRegime** · 02-12-2015, 08:06 AM

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They should televise the drug tests or better yet let Maury Povich do it.

"Ronda Rousey you said that you would never use PEDs, and that is a lie!" lol

**aholbert32** · 02-12-2015, 09:47 AM

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Originally posted by p_rushing

Looks like he may have failed the day of fight test. He failed the random test, passed the pre fight test 10 days later, and then failed on fight day. That would be a weird cycle as he should know he would be tested at the fight. He could have tested for something else, helping with weight cut or something else to help before the fight.

I'm guessing 1 year. Which he will just retire. He could technically fight internationally, but UFC does honor the suspension.

The Silva fans are hilarious with their comments. UFC setting him up, Nevada doing it, Reebok since he wouldn't wear it, 2 failed tests shows the tests were screwed up, etc.

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Rousey and Cat were tested and results will be in before the fight ......... I would pay good money to just watch Dana getting the news if she fails. Going to be an interesting time in MMA.

Fighters will have to cut back on the training or risk being caught.

Its amazing the lengths people will go to defend a fighter they like. I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt until the B sample of the first test was tested but then he fails a second one? And now I hear his camp hasnt even asked for the B sample to be tested?

He should just admit it. Say that he was concerned with coming back after such a brutal injury and he made a mistake. Take his one year suspension and move on. The fact that he is still denying it is pathetic.

Looks like this has forced the UFC to do more when it comes to PED testing though. They have a press conference scheduled for the 18th and they will likely roll out a new policy.

**aholbert32** · 02-12-2015, 09:48 AM

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Originally posted by ERA

It seems he tweaked his ACL again.

His body rejected the new ACL (Same thing happened to Cruz).

**aholbert32** · 02-12-2015, 10:14 AM

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Originally posted by allBthere

Sure, but to be fair GSP hasn't been caught using so I don't think assuming he is guilty of doping is cool, nor because he is and has been outspoken against it for YEARS.

what's amazing to me also is how expensive it is. I remember being being offered it while in HS and thinking how can these meatheads afford this? You have guys in lower orgs being paid 2k a fight taking roids that cost more than 3 fights! lol

I think testing the way it is now is exposing many people, so I'm not sure what more can be done in the way of testing. I think to eradicate doping from the UFC specifically means that the punishment must be severe and permanent enough to deter anyone from using them.

For example. I am a fan of GSP, but I think the only solution would be perma banning fighters. So even if GSP gets caught or Silva or any of the big stars, you have to banish them for life. It's the only way - you can't be hard on the fringe guys and let the money-makers hang around. The fans can't be hypocritical either, you are either against it and support lifetime bans, or you aren't against doping. You can't have it both ways, either because you like a fighter or feel sorry for someone with an injury etc.

If Jon Jones gets caught with steriods he is stripped of the title and now on the phone with Bellator lol ,... it's seriously the only way to get rid of it within an organization.

You have the NFL with players violating the 'league's substance abuse policy' and playing a few weeks later. Because they are not serious about getting rid of PED's. IF you're serious about it, you need to deal with it with conviction and absolute authority.

I'm not saying GSP is doping. I'm saying we cant assume he's not doping just because he's outspoken against doping. Silva was too and now he failed two drug tests.

The problem with perma-banning is that its business suicide for the UFC. Take your Jones example. Lets say Jones gets popped for Testosterone. NSAC gives him 1 yr but because the UFC has a Zero Tolerance policy they cut him.

Jones immediately signs a big money deal with Bellator and fights for them a year later. So now the UFC has lost the P4P best fighter in the world and practically handed them to his rival. And because of that Zero Tolerance policy, they can never sign him back. People underestimate how quickly a Bellator could become a serious rival if it got the right talent.

Also, I've never seen the UFC be "hard on fringe fighters but let the money makers hang around". One, the money-makers are tested harder than the lower card fighters. NSAC and other commissions dont do random tests on lower card fighters because it costs a lot of money to random test a whole card.

Two, with the exception of select international cards, the UFC doesnt hand out suspensions. They rely on the commissions for that. Also in those international cards, they've done a pretty good job (with the exception of the Le case) of testing and suspending fighters. Le, Bigfoot Silva and Chris Leben are just a few guys who main evented fights and were caught by the UFCs testers.

As for me, I dont think its as simple as for lifetime bans or for doping. There are tons of fighters who are outright cheating but there are some guys who take supplements and dont realize that the supplement contains a banned substance. For a first offense, I would prefer a complete forfeiture of your purse (Show/Win/Bonus), a year suspension and a significant fine. The prospect of being broke for over a year would scare many fighters straight.
For a second offense, we go two years. For a third offense, its a lifetime ban.

Whats funny is that even without those tweaks MMA/Boxing has one of the most stringent punishment scales when it comes to PEDs. With baseball, you only lose a third of a season for a first time PED offense. With the NFL, its a 1/4th. With Basketball, its a fourth. In MMA, you will lose 9 mos to a year.

**p_rushing** · 02-12-2015, 11:22 AM

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I would be fine with the 1,2, ban. I would like to see the commission take a % or fee from future fights for 1 year after the ban to pay for additional testing throughout the year.

**jb12780** · 02-12-2015, 01:45 PM

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Sources: Anderson Silva failed additional drug test in relation to UFC 183

http://mmajunkie.com/2015/02/sources-anderson-silva-failed-additional-drug-test-in-relation-to-ufc-183

The twisting and turning of the Anderson Silva failed drug test saga continues. Multiple sources close to the situation on Wednesday confirmed to MMAjunkie that Silva failed a second drug test in relation to UFC 183. The sources spoke on condition of anonymity because…

It gets worse for Silva and the UFC.

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**Gotmadskillzson** · 02-17-2015, 06:32 PM

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Turns out Anderson Silva is on anti-anxiety and anti-insomnia medication.

DJ · 02-17-2015, 06:43 PM

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Originally posted by Gotmadskillzson

Turns out Anderson Silva is on anti-anxiety and anti-insomnia medication.

Saw that. Not all that surprising. He also popped positive for one of the steroids that he tested positive for in the pre-fight testing.

**p_rushing** · 02-18-2015, 12:11 AM

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So are any of those performance enhancing? I assume they are if they are tested for.

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