UFC & Affliction Merged!

[Stumbleweed]

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Haha totally... their biggest event folded, why would the UFC take them on as co-promoters? Such a stupid demand... I hope Dana just waits them out and Fedor wises up and surrounds himself with some less insane/egotistical people.

[goh]

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I'm just gonna quote the Sportsnet guy on how rediculous this co-promotion thing is...

"He's nowhere near as popular as they think he is otherwise Affliction would still be in business."

[DTX3]

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Truth. He really isn't popular outside of the hardcore MMA fans who actually follow the sport outside of the UFC.

[aholbert32]

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Truth. He really isn't popular outside of the hardcore MMA fans who actually follow the sport outside of the UFC.

Most casual fans know who Brock, Rampage, Chuck and Randy are. Fedor? Not so much.

[Brian Gee]

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http://insidefights.com/2009/07/29/the-specifics-of-zuffas-offer-to-fedor-emelianenko/

If this is true, then can we all just vow to never say this guys name again? If he's not in the UFC, he's not relevant. I wish the guy would either sign or sambo into the sunset...

[ex carrabba fan]

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http://insidefights.com/2009/07/29/t...r-emelianenko/

If this is true, then can we all just vow to never say this guys name again? If he's not in the UFC, he's not relevant. I wish the guy would either sign or sambo into the sunset...

How reliable is that source?

I'm not saying it's not true, but it's hard to imagine Fades turning that down.

Until I hear Dana White comment on it I will withhold my judgment. It's sad that you and others like you think the UFC is the only way for him to be relevant. The heavyweight division is trash mostly and comparable to the other leagues around the world. Not joining the UFC would be a shame but his career is already validated. If you disagree then IMO I'll just keep those thoughts to myself.

[Brian Gee]

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Okay. MMA, like any other sport/aspect of pop culture, has it's diehards (I watch all of it) and those diehards know that MMA exists outside of the UFC. That being said, if Fedor wants to be relevant to the masses (and to the sport in it's current climate), he really needs to fight in the UFC.

Americans don't watch football because they love football. If that was the case, they'd be flocking to Arena football, the XFL, the World League, etc. They love NFL football and to a lesser extent, college football. But the two exist together, so there is a tie there. The UFC is THE show and as far as the average American male is concerned, the only show. I could ask half of my friends what MMA was and it would take them a minute. I could ask them what UFC was and they'd punch me for asking them...

I'm not saying that's the way it SHOULD be, but that's the way it is. Fedor needs to be in the UFC. Case closed.

Who's next, BTW? Paul Buentello??

Edit: And sure his career is validated, but at this point, he's not adding to it by beating the guys he's fighting...

[ex carrabba fan]

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Who cares what the masses think? They're mostly ********.

Who in the UFC can he beat that would be that much better than say Strikeforce?

Wherever he goes there's going to be the same amount of fights that can enhance his legacy.

[Brian Gee]

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I know what you mean, but let's be honest, people want to see him fight Lesnar (and to some extent Couture). The internet has been flooded with Lesnar/Fedor talk all week long and aside from Paqquio(sp)/Mayweather, I think it's the fight people want to see most. The heavyweight division has always been up and down and "great" opponents aren't easy to come by, but the UFC does seem to have a handful of guys right now that keep them a cut above the rest.

I don't see how anybody can defend Fedor as far as not fighting in the UFC either. Do we really want to see him fight guys like Tim Sylvia and Barnett? It seems pretty clear to me that the next step is the UFC. There are a handful of guys outside the federation that would be "interesting", but who would care?

MMA is not as popular as the UFC is.

[ex carrabba fan]

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I mean don't get me wrong, like I said it would be a damn shame if he never made it to the UFC.

I also think it's ridiculous that they turned that offer down. Very stupid IMO.

It's one thing to think he's a d-bag but to even assert that he won't be validated because he never fought for the UFC makes me cringe. Now I know you don't think that but from some of the posts I've read over this past year here on OS and other forums I feel like people are taking their distaste a bit far.

[Brian Gee]

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It's one thing to think he's a d-bag but to even assert that he won't be validated because he never fought for the UFC makes me cringe. Now I know you don't think that but from some of the posts I've read over this past year here on OS and other forums I feel like people are taking their distaste a bit far.

You are right about that. I've got friends who have only heard his name used in conversation and think he's ducking and that he's scared. I also hear a TON of steroid/mob talk on the internet when people want to bash him. It's really ridiculous. I don't know how many of the bashers could pick him out of a lineup of one....

[Wet Bandit]

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If Fedor actually turned down that offer, I mean, I can't even imagine it. Yet I'm not putting it past him or his management. Before M-1 Global, I wouldn't have imagined someone insisting the UFC co-promote shows with a two-bit promotion as a condition to sign a fighter.

But if he actually turned that down, it would undoubtedly tarnish his legacy to me. I won't say he'd be ducking anyone, but in the general sense, he'd be pretty close to the line by putting silly business demands that far ahead of challenging himself as a fighter. I mean, Lesnar, Couture, and Carwin, and probably Velasquez would be some of the biggest challenges of his career, and for him to avoid fighting those guys in spite of that offer? Wow.

But I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt for now, though. But that benefit of the doubt is wearing very, very thin when it comes to M-1 Global.

[aholbert32]

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Who cares what the masses think? They're mostly ********.

Who in the UFC can he beat that would be that much better than say Strikeforce?

Wherever he goes there's going to be the same amount of fights that can enhance his legacy.

Are you serious? Strikeforce has 1 legitimate HW in Overeem. A guy who hasnt fought there in almost 2 yrs. Rogers has one big win and no one considers him a top HW. In the UFC, you have a Couture fight, a Mir fight, a Lesner fight. You also have young HWs in Cain and Carwin who could be legit 3-4 fights from now.

Strikeforce can give him one fight against Overeem and then no one will give a **** anymore. I like Fedor alot but lets not act as if his legacy will be the same if he fights in Strikeforce or in Dream.

[aholbert32]

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http://insidefights.com/2009/07/29/t...r-emelianenko/

If this is true, then can we all just vow to never say this guys name again? If he's not in the UFC, he's not relevant. I wish the guy would either sign or sambo into the sunset...

I dont believe the 6 fight, 30 mil number. Especially if thats a guarantee. One thats way more than Affliction was paying him. Plus Dana doesnt do business like that. What happens if Brock beats him? Dana's going to have to pay Brock over 5 mil a fight?

[ex carrabba fan]

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Are you serious? Strikeforce has 1 legitimate HW in Overeem. A guy who hasnt fought there in almost 2 yrs. Rogers has one big win and no one considers him a top HW. In the UFC, you have a Couture fight, a Mir fight, a Lesner fight. You also have young HWs in Cain and Carwin who could be legit 3-4 fights from now.

Strikeforce can give him one fight against Overeem and then no one will give a **** anymore. I like Fedor alot but lets not act as if his legacy will be the same if he fights in Strikeforce or in Dream.

We'll see how Randy looks but I honestly don't too much care for a fight with he and Fedor. Randy is damn near 50.

Mir and Lesnar sure those fights I'd like to see maybe with Kongo thrown in. Outside of those it's pretty much meh.

Cain and Carwin you could say the same thing you said about Rogers.

My point is the UFC may have the "best" HW division but is it really saying much and would it really effect Fedor's legacy.