UFC 108: Evans v. T Silva

[videobastard]

Re: UFC 108: Evans v. T Silva

Never seen so many take downs in a fight before by one fighter. Silva and his camp had no answer for it. That 3rd round was crucial though. I did not think rashad would play into what silva was trying to do and it nearly worked.

[MachoMyers]

Re: UFC 108: Evans v. T Silva

Anyone know the pay outs for the fights? I can't find them.

[JerseySuave4]

Re: UFC 108: Evans v. T Silva

The fight was terrible. Thank god i watched it on sopcast because i would have been pissed if i payed for that. The Stout fight was great and the Daley KO was nice but that PPV wasnt worth the money. Evans really did no damage at all to Silva. I agree with him getting the decision because he controlled the 1st 2 rounds with his takedowns but he never did anything with them once he got Silva down. He never landed anything or hurt Silva. He just had great takedowns then did nothing.

I thought Rashad was trying to be like Mike Tyson with the side to side head movement. Too bad he didnt throw or land anything really. Rashad won this fight. Thats obvious. He clearly won the 1st 2 rounds because he got the takedowns and Silva couldnt do anything. Thing that stinks is yes he got the takedowns but he never landed a punch or put Silva in any kind of danger. This was an MMA match right? Not a wrestling match? I understand wrestling is part of MMA but Rashad used his wrestling to do nothing more than take a guy down and lay on him to eat up time and win on points.

Silva in the 3rd round fought great and should have finished Rashad because he was hurt. You could see the frustration because he knew Rashad wasnt doing any damage but he was losing because he was getting outpoint. Thats why he dropped his hands, stuck out his chin and tried to bait Rashad into standing up with him in the 3rd round because he knew Rashad wanted no part of standing up and punching. And we saw what happened when they did, Silva rocked Rashad.

Rampage will destroy Rashad. Rashad showed once again in this fight that his chin is suspect and he won't be able to overpower Rampage with takedowns like he did Silva. Rampage will KO Evans in round 1. Rashad's chin is suspect. Machida made him do the "stanky leg" and Silva had him rocked. Neither of those guys has the punching power Rampage Jackson has. If Rashad fights Rampage theres no way he can try and stand with him because he'll get knocked out in the 1st round. If he tries to do what he did against Silva he also needs to think again because Rampage is stronger than Silva and Rashad won't be able to win simply by taking him down and laying on him. No chance Rashad beats Ramapage.

[catcatch22]

Re: UFC 108: Evans v. T Silva

But all he did was take him down or hold him against the fence. That's literally it.

He did absolutely no damage. Every time he got the take down, Thiago worked his way back up. The only damage done at all was Thiago clobbering Evans with that combo - that was it.

By that logic then anyone who gains the back of their opponent for a rear naked choke and continually tries for 2 rounds but is unsuccessfull at completing the submission should have his points cancelled out due to his opponent escaping everytime. That is BS, if the opponent can't defend himself from take downs then it is his own fault. He should not be rewarded for his initial failure.

[goh]

Re: UFC 108: Evans v. T Silva

Sadly there ARE people that don't think Evans won,including fightmetric which on the 10 point must system has it scored a draw (as I said after Shogun/Machida,this stuff is unreliable) though has Evans winning on performance rating: http://fightmetric.com/fights/Evans-Silva.html

[ex carrabba fan]

Re: UFC 108: Evans v. T Silva

I sense we won't need fightmetric nor judges to decide Shad/Page

[allBthere]

Re: UFC 108: Evans v. T Silva

Octagon Control. In rounds 1 and 2, Rashad controlled the fight completely with his takedowns and combos. Silva didnt land a punch of consequence in the first 2 rounds and didnt take him down. He didnt control those rounds at all. I could see your argument if Silva was landing strikes consistently and just happened to get taken down by Rashad during those rounds.

I agree with this. I will say that wrestlers who take down and don't do anything do frustrate me though. Bader has had a couple of fights that really pissed me off. I was cheering for rashad before the fight, but during it I started looking around the bar and actually watched about 50% of it. Silva's punches in the 3rd made it exciting again.

I think more than anything Rashad's still getting over his loss. I think he's lost a lot of confidence in his ability and has resorted back to what he considers to be his biggest strength, and probably thinks he can get the belt fighting like that.

[jeremym480]

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I can see why some people think that Page will run through Shad but, I don't necessarily see it that way. I mean, this is going to be a true grudge match of epic proportion's, IMO and a fight like this could easily go either way.

Now I'll admit that Shad hasn't looked that good in his last two fights but, Rampage should have a little ring rust since he was off doing a movie. Plus, in his last fight Jardine gave Page a pretty good run for his money and I think that most of us can agree that Shad is a better fighter than Jardine.

Either way, I think it will be a great fight and I think there's one thing that we can all agree on..... and that is this fight can't get here quick enough!

[allBthere]

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I sense we won't need fightmetric nor judges to decide Shad/Page

I think people are giving page too much credit, like he'll just walk through rashad. He didn't look amazing against Jardine and got his jaw broke. I think Silva would have a good chance of beating rampage. I think Rashad will win a fight with Rampage...maybe he'll get dropped once or twice, but I think overall he's the winner.

[aholbert32]

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I sense we won't need fightmetric nor judges to decide Shad/Page

Speaking of that, this fight made me believe that Page will knock Evans out. Before this fight, I was willing to accept that the Machida KO wasnt an indication of a weak chin but of Machida's striking power. Now, I'm not so sure. Plus, I dont think Rashad will be able to use his wrestling to keep Page on the ground. Henderson had a hell of a time trying to use wrestling to beat Page.

[Phillmattic]

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Rampage couldn't put away Forrest Griffin. I'm not a believer anymore.

I also don't believe in the "weak chin" theory. If you hit someone in the right spot it really doesn't take much power to knock them out.

I wonder what's next for Thiago Silva though. I guess Forrest is the only fight that makes sense right now.

[jeremym480]

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Rampage couldn't put away Forrest Griffin. I'm not a believer anymore.

I also don't believe in the "weak chin" theory. If you hit someone in the right spot it really doesn't take much power to knock them out.

I wonder what's next for Thiago Silva though. I guess Forrest is the only fight that makes sense right now.

As a huge Forrest fan...... I'm afraid that I don't want to see that fight.
I wouldn't mind seeing Thiago v. Jon Jones though.

[VanCitySportsGuy]

Re: UFC 108: Evans v. T Silva

Random thoughts for UFC 108:

- Outside of numerous takedowns, nothing happened in the first 2 rounds of the main event. Silva should have pounced on Evans once he connected with a right hand. I don’t care if you are tired, you are losing the fight and need to go in for the finish. I was surprised to see Silva pull an Anderson Silva although Evans was smart to not engage and trade blows. I’m not impressed when a guy wins just because he does takedowns and doesn’t do any damage after it happens. I was also surprised at all the boos Evans received before, during, and after the fight. I thought TUF would help him become more popular.

- I loved the KO by Daley but I lose respect for fighters that can’t make weight. Anybody that doesn’t make weight should be disqualified from the bonuses. I have no idea why Hazelett didn’t even attempt a takedown. It’s time for Daley to get a Top 5 guy. I want to see him fight Koscheck next.

- Stout vs. Lauzon was easily the fight of the night. Back to back fight of the night bonuses for Stout.

- It’s time to give Dos Santos a Top 5 HW.

- Dana White said nobody would be cut from this card. Jacob Volkmann doesn’t belong in the UFC. Oh yeah I give a big thumbs down to the new ring girl.

- Overall the card was pretty solid. Most of the fights didn’t go to a decision.

[aholbert32]

Re: UFC 108: Evans v. T Silva

Random thoughts for UFC 108:

- Outside of numerous takedowns, nothing happened in the first 2 rounds of the main event. Silva should have pounced on Evans once he connected with a right hand. I don’t care if you are tired, you are losing the fight and need to go in for the finish. I was surprised to see Silva pull an Anderson Silva although Evans was smart to not engage and trade blows. I’m not impressed when a guy wins just because he does takedowns and doesn’t do any damage after it happens. I was also surprised at all the boos Evans received before, during, and after the fight. I thought TUF would help him become more popular.

- I loved the KO by Daley but I lose respect for fighters that can’t make weight. Anybody that doesn’t make weight should be disqualified from the bonuses. I have no idea why Hazelett didn’t even attempt a takedown. It’s time for Daley to get a Top 5 guy. I want to see him fight Koscheck next.

- Stout vs. Lauzon was easily the fight of the night. Back to back fight of the night bonuses for Stout.

- It’s time to give Dos Santos a Top 5 HW.

- Dana White said nobody would be cut from this card. Jacob Volkmann doesn’t belong in the UFC. Oh yeah I give a big thumbs down to the new ring girl.

- Overall the card was pretty solid. Most of the fights didn’t go to a decision.

I loved the new ring card girl. She was cute and its good to see the UFC diversify with its ring girls.

I think Dos Santos will get Gonzaga or the loser of Cain/Nog next.

I think Daley/Koscheck will happen April/May.

[Scoop_Brady]

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While not stacked with big names I still contend that this card will be exciting. Of course I could be wrong but on paper there shouldn't be many decisions. This is a Kenny Florian card and we all know that Kenny finishes fights.

Turns out I was right about this card. I think sometimes people get too hung up on names and totally disregard the matchups. I said before the card that on paper there shouldn't be many decisions and that's exactly what played out. This just shows how deep the UFC is now that they can put on an outstanding show with Evans/Silva as the main event.

To top it all off the Lauzon brothers went 0-2! If only Evans would have lost too.