UFC 2010 Undisputed Demo Available, Post Impressions Here

[MC Fatigue]

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I'm not sure I see this whole Advanced harder than Expert. I'll have to give it a comparison, but I'm killing the AI on Advanced now. Basically can get to mount at will, and once you learn to the stand up a bit better, it becomes fairly easy. Not to say, I haven't been rocked a few times and almost finished (last fight against Jackson I got rocked standing up against the cage and just blocked for my life, and the bell happened to go), but for the most part Advanced seems pretty easy once you know the controls.

[woody2goody]

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They need to GREATLY reduce the amount of KO's. I know that want that wow factor, but really 1 out of every 10 stoppages should be to KO. If you watch the real UFC 9 out of 10 times you see a TKO rather than a clean 1 punch/kick KO.

Also need to do something about the ground n pound TKO.....They still have it to where the guy dazed looks to be passed out. A ref would never let a guy laying limp like that get drilled 5+ times in the head with no movement at all. Take a look at Rashad/Forrest or Carwin/Mir or any of the other TKO's that happen and the guys getting punched are always moving their legs or their arms trying to escape or do something. Now after about 4 or 5 shots it would be cool to see the guy go limp then the ref pull or tackle you off...They need to have at least 10-15 animations for these types of finishes given position and fighter. That would make finishes MUCH MUCH more exciting and realistic.

Also they need to add standing TKO's where a guy doesn't fall but if he is visibly rocked and takes so many consecutive punches that the ref has to stop the fight.

I agree with nearly all of this. Fights might end in the same decision (KO, TKO) but in many different ways. I also would like the ability to do those little hammer fists when on top and behind the opponent like Velasquez did to Kongo a while ago. Ground and pound is what needs to be one of the main focuses of the next game IMO.

[filtertmp]

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I got rocked standing up against the cage and just blocked for my life, and the bell happened to go

I love this animation/status were you are 'tito'ed up against the cage and just trying to survive.. glad they added it.

[ManiacMatt1782]

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I know, that's why I said pre-determined - because it seemed faster than fully explaining that each sway direction corresponds to a particular punch for both hands. I would kind of rather you just throw your own punch because you kind of pop out of the animation a bit fast for me. Minor though.

I'm sorry man, predetermined made it sound like the computer picks a strike out of its *** to throw for you. I figured out submissions. Get their energy low before slapping on the sub. let all the red drain before you start shining. once they are completely yellow, shine. i have even gotten the computer on expert with this now. subs are possible, its just different than we were used to.

[MC Fatigue]

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This is why subs need to be different.

Shouldn't be about stamina or rotating the analog stick. They need to make it into a form of transitioning or something; based on stats. I don't exactly know how, because it's hard - but the whole clicking the stick thing just sucks; and it being based so much on energy sucks especially.

[Bad_Intentions]

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I agree with nearly all of this. Fights might end in the same decision (KO, TKO) but in many different ways. I also would like the ability to do those little hammer fists when on top and behind the opponent like Velasquez did to Kongo a while ago. Ground and pound is what needs to be one of the main focuses of the next game IMO.

They should really take a look at how big fights like that end and put those types of finishes in the game...a fight being finished in MMA is one of the most exciting parts of the sport..they really need to capture that next year.


And I to hate this stick spinning for subs....i'd rather it be button mashing. After playing the game long enough on PS3(can't speak for 360) my palm hurts from all the spinning. That is not fun, the end of the ps3 joystick is hard and not meant for spinning. I really hope they find an innovative new way to pull off subs but I have the feeling that they are so enamored with "the shine" that they will leave it in.

[allBthere]

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This is why subs need to be different.

Shouldn't be about stamina or rotating the analog stick. They need to make it into a form of transitioning or something; based on stats. I don't exactly know how, because it's hard - but the whole clicking the stick thing just sucks; and it being based so much on energy sucks especially.

I agree because you're fighter could be thinking only about sub defence - which leads me to something I forgot remember from last year.

why can't we block subs? We can block transitions, but not subs. Last year the way people tried to beat me most with my CAF was to have me even just a bit tired and flying arm-bar me. I always thought, if I know what you're going to do maybe even before you know and all I'm trying to do is prevent that one thing...maybe I ought to be able to.

It's kind of weird too how the number of slams/throws is reduced too (even though I don't have a better idea)

and I don't know about you guys but after seeing those overall rating in the other thread it's weird how Machida is totally the easiest for me to beat on expert or any other level. I'm almost always Rua btw.

[Gotmadskillzson]

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The number of slams and throws really not reduced. They just seem more to be position and situational based now. Because I have done quite few cool slams off the cage with rampage. And did some cool side dumps with Rashad where he grabs both your legs, lift you up in the air and dump you into side control.

What this game is lacking is the submission struggle they had last year. This year it is either all in or all out. When you break out of subs, you just bust out of them like hercules.....What happened to the struggle ?

Where is my power slam from full guard to break the guard ? Where is my power bomb out of an arm triangle ? And where the hell is the rubber guard ????? Buttefly guard seem very lame and useless to me in the demo.

The only thing you can do from is a triangle choke. Where in real life you could use the butterfly guard to sweep your opponent as well.

Granted this a demo and hopefully the full game isn't like this. If it is, I can see this game getting patched within the 1st couple of weeks.

[Gotmadskillzson]

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Do tell me something......maybe it is just a demo glitch.......but why does Rashad have a judo throw ?

Some more questionable things I have noticed after 50 games now........

Rashad and Machida are way too takedown happy in the demo. In real life they are more strikers then ground and pound fighters.

Why can't I use the kimura to sweep in a MMA game yet ? That would be very cool to see.

In the videos leading up to the demo release, I seen Machida perform a darce and anaconda choke on people, but don't see those sub moves listed for him in the demo.

What happened to the flying arm bar ?????

What happened to the body triangle ?

What happened to the rubber guard ?

How is it the cpu can be sweating hard but yet still have more stamina then my fighter who isn't sweating yet ?

Anybody else notice that as soon as the fight goes to the ground the crowd starts booing ??????? LOL

Has anybody pull off a transition sub move yet ???????? I swear with how quick they escape from subs, I don't see how it is even possible to transition into another sub move.

[XFactah416]

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Rashad's a ground fighter.

He only got striking happy after he KTFO'd Liddell and Forrest, but in his last fight, he was a wrestler.

[filtertmp]

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Rashad's a ground fighter.

He only got striking happy after he KTFO'd Liddell and Forrest, but in his last fight, he was a wrestler.

Well said, rashad has an impressive array of knockouts throughout his career but his base is wrestling.. look to the tito, thiago silva, bisping, etc. fights.

As for the specific moves (rubber guard, flying armbar, etc.) the idea I have heard is that fighters who haven't used specific moves don't get them (thus rashad gets a head kick and shogun gets an omoplata).

I would assume shogun and machida are both capable of all bjj moves but if they want to make the highest level stuff specific to certain fighters (like say maia or hazelett, etc.) to create variety then hey, whatever.

[Luck911]

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Do tell me something......maybe it is just a demo glitch.......but why does Rashad have a judo throw ? .

In some fight in the UFC Evans did said Judo throw.Hence he has it

Rashad and Machida are way too takedown happy in the demo. In real life they are more strikers then ground and pound fighters.

Machida goes for his leg trip takedown,Against any decent striker he faces.He took down Tito,Soku,Naka,hoger,Silva,etc,....If you go back and look Evans or Shogun he was trying it a couple times.As another poster said Evans got a little stand up happy after a couple KO the reality he is a ground fighter and he went back to his old ways in thiago silva fight.

It is shockingly accurate,Machida does not go takedowns as much against Shogun but against Rampage and Evans he keeps going for takedowns

Why can't I use the kimura to sweep in a MMA game yet ? That would be very cool to see.

People are already complaining about "ooma plata sweep".The Sub system is one of those things that needs work.Subs need to work a little bit differently than how they do now.

In the videos leading up to the demo release, I seen Machida perform a darce and anaconda choke on people, but don't see those sub moves listed for him in the demo.

What happened to the flying arm bar ?????

What happened to the body triangle ?

What happened to the rubber guard ?.

I will bet money that darce and anconda are one of those reverse subs,I forgot the exact name but in middle of some subs you can go for others subs.You won't see until you have person in that sub i think

In 2009 everybody got the generic bjj package,In 2010 moves are individual hence Machida and Shogun not have the rubber guard and body triangle something they have never done in mma match.Dustin Hazlett i full expect to have flying triangle and the rubber guard,Anderson Silva i expect to have body triangle.We won't have to deal with all those flying knees and superman punches from people who don't use that technique. Wanderlei does not have to be wrestling now either too

Anybody else notice that as soon as the fight goes to the ground the crowd starts booing ??????? LOL

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That is realistic

[MC Fatigue]

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Do tell me something......maybe it is just a demo glitch.......but why does Rashad have a judo throw ?

Some more questionable things I have noticed after 50 games now........

Rashad and Machida are way too takedown happy in the demo. In real life they are more strikers then ground and pound fighters.

Why can't I use the kimura to sweep in a MMA game yet ? That would be very cool to see.

In the videos leading up to the demo release, I seen Machida perform a darce and anaconda choke on people, but don't see those sub moves listed for him in the demo.

What happened to the flying arm bar ?????

What happened to the body triangle ?

What happened to the rubber guard ?

How is it the cpu can be sweating hard but yet still have more stamina then my fighter who isn't sweating yet ?

Anybody else notice that as soon as the fight goes to the ground the crowd starts booing ??????? LOL

Has anybody pull off a transition sub move yet ???????? I swear with how quick they escape from subs, I don't see how it is even possible to transition into another sub move.

Remember that it's not like last year; when is the last time you saw any of the 4 fighters in the demo use rubber guard? I'm going to guess only a handful of fighters in the game do so, because only a handful do so in the UFC. Etc, etc with the moves you listed.

As for Evans - the guy is a wrestler. Remember his Thiago fight? Takedown city, with almost no standup offense (or even ground offense for that matter). Like the guy above me said; he only got standup happy because he was doing well with it. The second he gets his *** destroyed by Machida, he ends up going back to what he is - a wrestler.

[Gotmadskillzson]

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I wish it was May 25th already.........With the overall ratings being so close this year, it is going to make it real hard to determine who I want to use in the online league.

I am glad I got the strategy guide on pre order too. For it seems it is going to come down to individual skill ratings for different skills and moves.

So far I have my eye on Hazlett, BJ Penn and Condit. I want to see how Dos Santos and Jon Jones is too.

[Motown]

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Wow...great impressions fellaz If anyone has an extra code, shoot one my way...would ya? thanks